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Posted: 6/5/2022 9:57:50 AM EDT
List of gun control bills which passed in 2022.
  • A-1023A/S-4970A, Requires the creation and imposition of restrictive commercial practices and stringent recordkeeping and reporting to prevent gun and ammunition sales to individuals with a criminal record.
  • A-3998/S-687, Clarifies the definition of imitation weapon.
  • A-7926A/S-4116A, Requires semiautomatic pistols manufactured or delivered to any licensed dealer in this state to be capable of microstamping ammunition.
  • A-8102A/S-6363A, Requires the court to order the search for and immediate seizure of certain firearms when a defendant willfully refuses to surrender such firearms.
  • A-8735/S-7760, Requires the Division of Criminal Justice Services to publish quarterly reports providing information related to firearms, rifles and shotguns used in the commission of crimes in the state of New York.
  • A-8736/S-7796, Amends the definition of a "disguised gun" to include any firearms designed and intended to appear to be a toy gun.
  • A-8741/S-7736, Amends the "Scott J. Beigel Unfinished Receiver Act" relating to unserialized frames or receivers.
  • A-8786/S-7705, Criminalizes the sale of ghost guns; requires any person licensed as a gunsmith or a dealer in firearms to register with the Division of Criminal Justice Services any unserialized firearm, rifle or shotgun, finished frame or receiver, or unfinished frame or receiver.
  • A-8846/S-7716, Relates to the Firearm Violence Research Institute; makes technical changes to the institute's procedures, goals and activities.
  • A-10428A/S-9229A, Relates to the definition of large capacity ammunition feeding device for purposes of the offense of criminal possession of a weapon in the third degree; and repeals section 265.36 of the penal law.
  • A-10497/S-9407B, Relates to the unlawful purchase and the unlawful sale or delivery of a body vest.
  • A-10502/S-9113A, Authorizes certain health care providers to file an application for an Extreme Risk Protection Order against a person examined by such health care provider in certain circumstances.
  • A-10503/S-9458, Relates to the purchase or taking possession of a semiautomatic rifle; requires a license to purchase or take possession of a semiautomatic rifle; establishes the crimes of criminal purchase of a semiautomatic rifle and criminal sale of a semiautomatic rifle; requires recertification of licenses to purchase or take possession of a semiautomatic rifle every five years.
  • A-10504/S-9456, Relates to defining firearm; provides that the term firearm shall also include any other weapon that is not otherwise defined containing any component that provides housing or a structure designed to hold or integrate any fire control component that is designed to or may readily be converted to expel a projectile by action of explosive.



Link Posted: 6/5/2022 10:36:56 AM EDT
[#1]
Thanks for consolidating all these.

Were there LE exemptions to the microstamping bill?
Link Posted: 6/5/2022 10:54:20 AM EDT
[#2]
No.
Link Posted: 6/5/2022 11:03:09 AM EDT
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Haha Ok.

I mean they probably don't want to exempt police handguns either.

At least if we can't get new handguns, neither can police.
Link Posted: 6/5/2022 12:35:24 PM EDT
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Haha Ok.

I mean they probably don't want to exempt police handguns either.

At least if we can't get new handguns, neither can police.
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Don't hold your breath. Just like the SAFE Act f_ck up that outlawed police from carrying on school property, they will fix it pronto. The police unions and chiefs will be calling for a special session before the ink on the Governors signature is dry.
Link Posted: 6/5/2022 2:48:32 PM EDT
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Thanks for consolidating all these.

Were there LE exemptions to the microstamping bill?
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LE already has exemptions.  I’m sure this will be in there as well
Link Posted: 6/5/2022 6:45:25 PM EDT
[#6]
If you recall from the Safe act the cops were just pissed there was no exemption so they went back and added one. I'm wondering if this will be the same. We all know how many cops buy personal guns with their exemptions.
Link Posted: 6/5/2022 8:16:06 PM EDT
[#7]
The effective date for a MS requirement is like 1-4 years depending.

So they have LOTS of time to address details like LE exemption.
Link Posted: 6/6/2022 4:44:57 AM EDT
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If you recall from the Safe act the cops were just pissed there was no exemption so they went back and added one. I'm wondering if this will be the same. We all know how many cops buy personal guns with their exemptions.
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Link Posted: 6/6/2022 3:45:19 PM EDT
[#9]
This thread needs to be pinned.
Link Posted: 6/6/2022 8:00:56 PM EDT
[#10]
Assuming she signed the microstamping bill, we have 30 days for it to take effect?
Link Posted: 6/6/2022 8:24:15 PM EDT
[#11]
Doesn't matter when that one takes effect because the first phases are for the government and industry to do things

It won't affect our pistol purchases for 1-4 YEARS depending on how those things go.

Theoretically it could even be declared non-feasible and abandoned but I'm not counting on it ;)
Link Posted: 6/6/2022 9:48:15 PM EDT
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Doesn't matter when that one takes effect because the first phases are for the government and industry to do things

It won't affect our pistol purchases for 1-4 YEARS depending on how those things go.

Theoretically it could even be declared non-feasible and abandoned but I'm not counting on it ;)
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They never put the system in place for ammo BC but isn't the law still in place technically preventing people in NYS from ordering ammo direct to their home.
Link Posted: 6/7/2022 11:33:26 AM EDT
[#13]
So they're going to try to ban gay-colored guns because they look like toys now?


Link Posted: 6/7/2022 4:32:43 PM EDT
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They never put the system in place for ammo BC but isn't the law still in place technically preventing people in NYS from ordering ammo direct to their home.
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No. The background checks didn't go into effect until the database was completed. Still no database.

https://www.nysenate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/catharine-young/safe-act-ammunition-database-suspended
Link Posted: 6/7/2022 6:23:14 PM EDT
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They never put the system in place for ammo BC but isn't the law still in place technically preventing people in NYS from ordering ammo direct to their home.
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They're planning on standing up the background check system and funding it through a tax on ammunition
Link Posted: 6/29/2022 4:49:17 PM EDT
[#16]
So how many days do we have left before microstamping takes affect and we can't buy anything any more? Has NYSRPA or FPC or anybody filed (or going to file) suit?
Link Posted: 6/29/2022 5:46:19 PM EDT
[#17]
The state has to declare microstamping "viable."  There are no guidelines on what that means.
Link Posted: 9/4/2022 3:57:27 PM EDT
[#18]
Which bill that was passed included the record-keeping requirement for ammo sales to take effect September 1st?
Link Posted: 9/4/2022 9:31:41 PM EDT
[#19]
There wasn't a separate bill.  CCIA basically reiterated the need to implement the SAFE requirement.
Link Posted: 9/4/2022 9:41:41 PM EDT
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Which bill that was passed included the record-keeping requirement for ammo sales to take effect September 1st?
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§ 400.02 Statewide license and record database.
   
   2. There shall be a statewide license and record database specific for
 ammunition sales which shall be created and maintained by the division
 of state police the cost of which shall not be borne by any municipality
 no later than thirty days upon designating the division of state police
 as the point of contact to perform both firearm and ammunition
 background checks under federal and state law.
Link Posted: 9/4/2022 9:46:57 PM EDT
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There wasn't a separate bill.  CCIA basically reiterated the need to implement the SAFE requirement.
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Ok,but the ammunition segment of SAFE has been dormant until the background check system is in place. Where did CCIA give a start up date of the 1st  for the record keeping. I'm not seeing it.
Link Posted: 9/4/2022 9:48:08 PM EDT
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§ 400.02 Statewide license and record database.
   
   2. There shall be a statewide license and record database specific for
 ammunition sales which shall be created and maintained by the division
 of state police the cost of which shall not be borne by any municipality
 no later than thirty days upon designating the division of state police
 as the point of contact to perform both firearm and ammunition
 background checks under federal and state law.
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That didn't specify the start up date of record keeping
Link Posted: 9/4/2022 10:07:16 PM EDT
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§ 400.02 Statewide license and record database.
   
   2. There shall be a statewide license and record database specific for
 ammunition sales which shall be created and maintained by the division
 of state police the cost of which shall not be borne by any municipality
 no later than thirty days upon designating the division of state police
 as the point of contact to perform both firearm and ammunition
 background checks under federal and state law.
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Here is the full text:


2. There shall be a statewide license and record database specific for
ammunition sales which shall be created and maintained by the division
of state police the cost of which shall not be borne by any municipality
no later than thirty days upon designating the division of state police
as the point of contact to perform both firearm and ammunition
background checks under federal and state law. Records assembled or
collected for purposes of inclusion in such database shall not be
subject to disclosure pursuant to article six of the public officers
law. All records containing granted license applications from all
licensing authorities shall be monthly checked by the division of
criminal justice services in conjunction with the division of state
police against criminal conviction, criminal indictments, mental health,
extreme risk protection orders, orders of protection, and all other
records as are necessary to determine their continued accuracy as well
as whether an individual is no longer a valid license holder. The
division of criminal justice services shall also check pending
applications made pursuant to this article against such records to
determine whether a license may be granted. All state and local agencies
shall cooperate with the division of criminal justice services, as
otherwise authorized by law, in making their records available for such
checks. No later than thirty days after the superintendent of the state
police certifies that the statewide license and record database
established pursuant to this section and the statewide license and
record database established for ammunition sales are operational for the
purposes of this section, a dealer in firearms licensed pursuant to
section 400.00 of this article, a seller of ammunition as defined in
subdivision twenty-four of section 265.00 of this chapter shall not
transfer any ammunition to any other person who is not a dealer in
firearms as defined in subdivision nine of such section 265.00 or a
seller of ammunition as defined in subdivision twenty-four of section
265.00 of this chapter, unless:

(a) before the completion of the transfer, the licensee or seller
contacts the statewide license and record database and provides the
database with information sufficient to identify such dealer or seller
transferee based on information on the transferee's identification
document as defined in paragraph (c) of this subdivision, as well as the
amount, caliber, manufacturer's name and serial number, if any, of such
ammunition;

(b) the licensee or seller is provided with a unique identification
number; and

(c) the transferor has verified the identity of the transferee by
examining a valid state identification document of the transferee issued
by the department of motor vehicles or if the transferee is not a
resident of the state of New York, a valid identification document
issued by the transferee's state or country of residence containing a
photograph of the transferee.


* NB Effective September 1, 2022"

https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/laws/PEN/400.02

Bolding is mine

Sorry, but in reading the entirety of the above text, I dont believe that the mandated ammunition recordkeeping portion of the legislation is active. The whole thing hinges on the Supt of the State Police saying that the system is up and ready to perform the ammo and firearms transfer background checks, and thats currently not the case.
The September 1 date is the date that the new text language replaced the old verbiage, not the date that dealers are required to start documenting details of ammo sales. I think that people are reading that, seeing the September 1 date and going " aha! we have to start enforcing this section on that date". No, it doesn't mean that, The language clearly says that the Supt of the State Police has to certify that the background check system is up and running, and within 30 days of THAT date, the dealers must comply with the recordkeeping mandate.
Link Posted: 9/4/2022 11:43:13 PM EDT
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2. There shall be a statewide license and record database specific for
ammunition sales which shall be created and maintained by the division
of state police the cost of which shall not be borne by any municipality
no later than thirty days upon designating the division of state police
as the point of contact
to perform both firearm and ammunition
background checks under federal and state law.

No, it doesn't mean that, The language clearly says that the Supt of the State Police has to certify that the background check system is up and running, and within 30 days of THAT date, the dealers must comply with the recordkeeping mandate.
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One of the changes in the new laws was in the Executive Law.

Executive Law Section  228.  National instant criminal background checks. 1. (a) The division is hereby authorized and directed to serve as a state point of contact

Not so clear after all. Probably by design.
Link Posted: 9/5/2022 8:01:19 AM EDT
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One of the changes in the new laws was in the Executive Law.

Executive Law Section  228.  National instant criminal background checks. 1. (a) The division is hereby authorized and directed to serve as a state point of contact

Not so clear after all. Probably by design.
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So in the sentence you're quoting, they're laying the groundwork for the state to be the point of contact. Now they have to build the system and the Sup't has to certify that its operational. From what I quoted, THEN the dealers must start documenting the required information and submitting it to the system through the background check
I agree that its unclear. There should be an absolute date that a switch is turned so to speak and dealers are expected to follow the rules on buyer information gathering
Link Posted: 9/8/2022 6:28:47 PM EDT
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Edit moved, wrong thread
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