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Posted: 6/21/2020 5:46:58 AM EDT
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no adjustable stock
no bayonet lug no removable muzzle device (we're allowed brakes. NOT flash hiders) no threaded barrel? not sure about this..... |
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Posted: 6/21/2020 4:41:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: no threaded barrel? not sure about this..... Can not have a threaded barrel on a rifle if you already have another "evil feature", like a pistol grip - hence the need to permanently install a muzzle brake. Permanent install negates the threads (as per ATF during the fed AWB - the only guidance we really have to go by, since the state is purposefully vague on all rules & regs) M1As can have a threaded flash suppressor, because they don't have a pistol grip. If you put an MiA in a PG stock, you have to lose the FH. Read FAQ #15 here: https://www.njsp.org/firearms/firearms-faqs.shtml |
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Posted: 6/22/2020 1:05:47 AM EDT
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Is there a restriction on barrel length?
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Posted: 6/22/2020 1:57:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is there a restriction on barrel length? Same as federal - 16" on rifles, 18" on shotguns. Unlike federal, SBRs/SBSs are strictly forbidden here. Then there's the whole "other firearm" category, where it's not a rifle because arm brace instead of buttstock, and it's not a pistol because vertical foregrip, and it's not an AOW because >26" OAL... there are whole threads on that subject, so we won't rehash here. |
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Posted: 6/23/2020 3:50:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Same as federal - 16" on rifles, 18" on shotguns. Unlike federal, SBRs/SBSs are strictly forbidden here. Then there's the whole "other firearm" category, where it's not a rifle because arm brace instead of buttstock, and it's not a pistol because vertical foregrip, and it's not an AOW because >26" OAL... there are whole threads on that subject, so we won't rehash here. Sorry for the noob questions. Is barrel length restricted to 16" or it has to be at least 16" |
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Posted: 6/23/2020 5:50:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sorry for the noob questions. Is barrel length restricted to 16" or it has to be at least 16" Rifle barrels can't be any shorter than 16", but can be as long as you want. I suggest keeping it below 102", to keep from having to get an oversize load permit to transport on the roadways... |
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Posted: 6/23/2020 9:31:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Rifle barrels can't be any shorter than 16", but can be as long as you want. I suggest keeping it below 102", to keep from having to get an oversize load permit to transport on the roadways... Hahaha I was thinking 20" but just wanted to make sure it will be legal |
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Posted: 6/25/2020 11:01:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Rifle barrels can't be any shorter than 16", but can be as long as you want. I suggest keeping it below 102", to keep from having to get an oversize load permit to transport on the roadways... That wouldnt be necessary unless you transported it sticking out your windows. |
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Posted: 6/26/2020 8:28:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Rifle barrels can't be any shorter than 16", but can be as long as you want. I suggest keeping it below 102", to keep from having to get an oversize load permit to transport on the roadways... Refresh my memory.... 16" Including the brake. A 14.5 barrel with P/W brake to equal 16+ was GTG if I recall. |
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Posted: 6/26/2020 10:22:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Refresh my memory.... 16" Including the brake. A 14.5 barrel with P/W brake to equal 16+ was GTG if I recall. Correct, since a perm. attached muzzle device becomes "part of" the barrel. |
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Posted: 7/1/2020 6:18:42 PM EDT
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no adjustable stock on a semi-automatic firearm. Pump shotguns and bolt action/single action rifles are allowed
no bayonet lug no removable muzzle device (we're allowed brakes. NOT flash hiders) Must be permanently fixed aka welded no threaded barrel? not sure about this..... Not on long guns with another "evil feature" Want an AR with an adjustable "pistol brace" and flash hider? Get an other firearm. Defense inside the house- Castle doctrine Defense outside the house- Duty to retreat Defense out in public- maybe a stick or a rock if you can find one in time |
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Posted: 7/2/2020 5:37:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: no adjustable stock on a semi-automatic firearm. Pump shotguns and bolt action/single action rifles are allowed OP asked about AR no bayonet lug no removable muzzle device (we're allowed brakes. NOT flash hiders) Must be permanently fixed aka welded (IE, "non-removable") no threaded barrel? not sure about this..... Not on long guns with another "evil feature" Want an AR with an adjustable "pistol brace" and flash hider? Get an other firearm. look at what the ATF is sayng/doing first.... Defense inside the house- Castle doctrine Defense outside the house- Duty to retreat Defense out in public- maybe a stick or a rock if you can find one in time .....and if you use ANYTHING to injure someone, it is a weapon in NJ's eyes. even if it is in self defense. yes, even a stick or rock. |
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Posted: 7/3/2020 7:16:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: .....and if you use ANYTHING to injure someone, it is a weapon in NJ's eyes. even if it is in self defense. yes, even a stick or rock. Ok fair. RTSP still selling the pistol braces so as of now they should be legal. ".....and if you use ANYTHING to injure someone, it is a weapon in NJ's eyes. even if it is in self defense. yes, even a stick or rock." Just to clarify on this: If you are a common criminal you are exempt. If you are using it in self defense, you are now a newly-minted criminal. To use these again, you would need to be promoted to a common criminal. |
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Posted: 7/4/2020 6:32:41 AM EDT
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LOL---so true, yet so sad.
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Posted: 10/6/2020 4:52:12 PM EDT
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I just saw some "other firearm" sold like a rifle, 12.5 inch barrel, and pistol brace.
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Posted: 10/6/2020 7:25:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I just saw some "other firearm" sold like a rifle, 12.5 inch barrel, and pistol brace. Careful... it may RESEMBLE a rifle, but it does not meet the legal definition of a rifle because it is not designed to be shouldered. It does not meet the legal definition of a pistol, because it has a foregrip, therefore it is not designed to be fired with one hand. Since it is not a rifle, it can not be a short-barreled rifle, or in NJ, a sawed-off shotgun. Therefore, under current NJ law, it is only a "firearm", and therefore, technically legal (for now). |
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