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Posted: 10/28/2019 1:13:05 PM EDT
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The possession ban is still enjoined. The ban on transfer/axquisition/importation/etc. has the injunction against it stayed pending appeal, so it remains enforceable. Some PDs may still try to take your stuff, anyways, but most, I think, know it'd be a bad move on their part.
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Posted: 10/28/2019 1:42:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
The possession ban is still enjoined. The ban on transfer/axquisition/importation/etc. has the injunction against it stayed pending appeal, so it remains enforceable. Some PDs may still try to take your stuff, anyways, but most, I think, know it'd be a bad move on their part. |
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Posted: 10/28/2019 3:23:54 PM EDT
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During that special week I gave my kids co-owner rights to all my magazines
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Posted: 10/29/2019 12:28:21 AM EDT
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CA DOJ & CHP just recently caught a guy driving back into CA from a Reno gun show with some magazines.
They fucked him with a capital F. |
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Posted: 10/29/2019 1:13:43 AM EDT
[#5]
Ah!, that special week!
I bought and took delivery of a bunch of standard capacity AR magazines. I bought a high cap that will likely never get used because it is for my bolt action rifle. <-- 20 rounds of bolt action joy! |
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Posted: 10/29/2019 9:06:13 PM EDT
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As for the guy that got busted, can you say dumbass!
I don't know why these people don't take a cab from their hotel to the gun show and then back! Driving to an out of state gun show with your CA plated vehicle is about as fucking stupid as you can get! Pass the word, tell people not to do this. I loathe CA gun laws as much as the next person but you need to use a little bit of brain power if you plan on buying from out of state! |
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Posted: 10/30/2019 3:49:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:OK, that's what I thought. The RO was confused. 
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Posted: 10/30/2019 3:51:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
As for the guy that got busted, can you say dumbass! I don't know why these people don't take a cab from their hotel to the gun show and then back! Driving to an out of state gun show with your CA plated vehicle is about as fucking stupid as you can get! Pass the word, tell people not to do this. I loathe CA gun laws as much as the next person but you need to use a little bit of brain power if you plan on buying from out of state! And call me suspicious but ten agents all day out-of-state to bust one guy ... sure sounds like a propaganda/news opportunity designed to strike fear in American citizens. |
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Posted: 10/31/2019 9:55:59 AM EDT
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Sounds like a taxpayer-funded boondoggle to me.
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Posted: 11/1/2019 5:08:33 PM EDT
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Too late to say FDOJ and FCHP on this one?
Feels like there's been plenty of times other than this where that sentiment was rightfully applied. Oh well. The barbecue will happen once the hold is lifted and the case is closed. |
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Posted: 11/1/2019 5:54:37 PM EDT
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What is the time frame for this to be resolved? How long does the DOJ have to appeal?
Kevdog |
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Posted: 11/2/2019 4:38:24 PM EDT
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Not sure. I believe all the paperwork so to speak, is done for the 9th. circuit but no one expects anything to happen there for a while. My understanding is that it is waiting for the Supreme Court to deal (or not) with a New York case. I believe the 9th case would be heard in about a year? Didn't find anything real definitive on searching.
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Posted: 11/2/2019 6:47:13 PM EDT
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Yeah, I don't know what the current court schedule is with respect to hearing the case. Whoever loses at the 9th will likely appeal and try to get the case heard en banc.
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Posted: 11/7/2019 6:37:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Very little. And call me suspicious but ten agents all day out-of-state to bust one guy ... sure sounds like a propaganda/news opportunity designed to strike fear in American citizens. The news article on this arrest is dated 10/25/2019. The stake out and arrest involving this case occurred in 2014. |
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Posted: 11/12/2019 5:24:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: ^^^^ Exactly this. The news article on this arrest is dated 10/25/2019. The stake out and arrest involving this case occurred in 2014. |
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Posted: 11/12/2019 5:25:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Yeah, I don't know what the current court schedule is with respect to hearing the case. Whoever loses at the 9th will likely appeal and try to get the case heard en banc. |
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Posted: 11/12/2019 9:57:14 PM EDT
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I expect both sides to continue appeals. The legal positioning put forth by Judge Benitez, I'm sure, strikes fear in the hearts of the "antis." The state position/law burdens the exercise of a right and there is also, now, no demonstrable positive result from that burdening. Magazines flooded into the state and there is no measurable impact on crime.
Although I expect both sides to continue appeals, I think there would be less impact for the antis to drop the process and allow magazine possession than to potentially lose, solidify the legal position from Judge Benitez and add precedent. Much like New York changed laws to try to moot out their case. |
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Posted: 11/22/2019 1:05:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: One wonders if CA would appeal to the supremes if they lose en banc at the 9th. Do they take the loss to the SC in hopes of locking down both jurisdictions and possibly the country or do they eat the split decision and give back some ground? |
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Posted: 11/23/2019 11:52:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: One wonders if CA would appeal to the supremes if they lose en banc at the 9th. |
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Posted: 11/23/2019 1:51:39 PM EDT
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Seen it discussed that anti-gunners might decide that Ca backing down is a better result for them than creating a "precedent" that may change the whole circuit and/or lead to Supreme Court pounding down mag restrictions - and it's ripples - for the whole US. Of course, that could be just wishful thinking. I don't see other state anti-gun pols being happy with trying to push an idea that Ca backed off on. So, they may push Ca to fight it all the way.
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Posted: 11/23/2019 7:39:51 PM EDT
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We will know a lot more after the hearings on the NY case at SCOTUS. If they come across weak, it will inboldin the gun grabbers, I hope they kick the gun grabbers asses.
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Posted: 11/23/2019 11:53:47 PM EDT
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The Supremes may or may not signal displeasure with the Dem's letter.
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Posted: 12/5/2019 6:57:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It is an interesting question, and the circuit court is a lot different then it was at the start of this case, I would argue if they lose with a 3 judge panel they might not want to even risk en banc. |
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