I don't have a CCW permit. I know ammo or loaded mags needs to be in a separate closed enclosure/compartment when driving. I don't leave mags inserted in my semi-auto rifles or handguns when driving anyway but now more and more bolt guns with detachable magazines, do I need to remove empty magazine from a bolt gun and keep in a separate closed enclosure when driving? I only have fixed box magazine bolt guns until couple years ago. Read the 2923.16, seems empty mag in a rifle still meets "unloaded".

I leave the gun shop with newly purchased handguns with the empty mag inserted usually so I hope this isn't a law.

I think loaded mags should be kept separate in a trunk or not accessible without exiting the vehicle. In the winter I want to load a bunch of mags before I go to the range and separate but I'm not sure if that's legal or not.

As the first reply stated, I think we have all done that.

Unloaded mag is unloaded.

Either you or the officer would need to be a turbo douche for them to pop you on that. Even then I think it would get tossed out.

The law only seems to concern itself with loaded magazines. I'd imagine no LEO is going to be overly concerned with an unloaded weapon, unless he's got it in for you and looking to jack you up for anything he might get away with. Even in that situation, I'd imagine most city prosecutors aren't going to pursue that by itself.

In most normal encounters with law enforcement, it should be a non-issue.

OK, thanks. I googled, seems like some states may have an issue even with empty mag inserted in a gun when driving. I figure it may get LEO nervous when seeing a gun with a mag inserted. I don't leave mag in a gun and my guns are in trunk, "locked" compartments or bags when driving but I forgot to remove mags from bolt guns a few times, too used to fixed box mag bolt guns!

Are loaded mags allowed now? Of course separate and in a legal way you would travel with ammo.

Get your CHL

Definitely solves a lot of issues but I'm still wondering about the laws as far as transport as far as loading mags up prior.

Yes.

Can you transport a loaded rifle then? I need to get mine.

No you can not!  you can have loaded mags in the same part of the vehicle but the rifle cannot be loaded..

*Laughs in AR pistol.*

That doesn't seem different enough to even have a separate law. I was more interested for long guns without a removable mag.



As long as we keep our braces.

I was hoping they just removed the entire SBR thing off the NFA but I'm not holding my breath. Having a CHL and not having to separate ammo is definitely less of a pain.

I know Ohio was one of the state's that said no to loaded mags but I heard that it changed. If the ammo is separate now I think that's all that matters but I wouldn't keep empty mags in a rifle on transport at least on a the average AR/AK type rifles.

I put my AR in a rifle bag, loaded mags in pouches on front of bag. For a class I take a ammo can full of loaded mags. Being able to have the mags inside the bag with rifle is not much better.
If you want to use a 30-30 or 870 as a truck / trunk gun then loading is going to be slow. This is the PIA with OH law.

Before the mags had to be in complete separate compartment of vehicle or some such crap.

ETA: IN does not restrict loaded long guns in vehicles. I live near state line and lived there for 23 years.

Loaded magazines in vehicles

The mag on many rifles in not detachable. How do you store it in a separate compartment, you can't. So those rifles are worthless in a vehicle because they take minutes instead of seconds to load.

This is a law that encourages having an AR in your vehicle vs a Fudd gun. Funny how ironic that is.

No CCW permit?

Pistols- unloaded, slide lock open, zip tie thru the magwell, EMPTY mag next to it. All  visible. OR.... completely unloaded in a locked case, unreachable by the driver

Rifle- unloaded, in a case, no loaded mags

OR don't do stupid shit and get pulled over. Lol

From the prior link....

For someone who does not have a Concealed Handgun License, that person may have loaded magazines or speed loaders in the vehicle so long as:

The magazine or speed loader does not fit any firearm being transported in the vehicle; OR

The magazine or speed loader is in a compartment reachable only by leaving the vehicle; OR

The magazine or speed loader is in a closed package, box or case that has multiple compartments (i.e. a gun case) as long as the magazine or speed loader is in a separate compartment in the closed package, box or case from the firearm, OR,

if the closed package, box or case only has one compartment, the magazine or firearm is separately enclosed in something using a snap, buckle, zipper, button, hook and loop etc. (My best stab at this is it is a one compartment gun case, the gun or the magazine/speed loader would need to be in some sort of pouch that is closed.); OR

The magazine or speed loader is on the person of the occupant in a pocket that is closed using a snap, buckle, zipper, button or hook and loop.

For someone with a CHL, they may have a loaded magazine in the vehicle anyway they wish, so long as any magazine for a non-handgun is not inserted into the non-handgun. (i.e. a loaded rifle magazine may be anywhere in the vehicle as long as it isn’t inserted into the rifle.)

Pretty sure this was one of the smaller changes they made a while back so when you bring your new pistol home with two magazines in the box your first action as a new first time gun owner was not transporting a firearm illegally.

Technically, by the letter of the code it is fine, assuming you don't have loaded magazines elsewhere.
If it is in a case I doubt a LOE is even going to blink twice, if it is in plain sight might get a bit of flack about it.