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Posted: 1/6/2021 6:16:48 AM EST
Brian Kemp will go down as the Governor that lost Georgia to the Democrats. I hope that the Republican Party as a whole understands what they lost this election.

Kemp is complete fucking idiot and is now wounded and basically Stacie Abrams bitch.
Link Posted: 1/6/2021 7:04:15 AM EST
OK.   Except, Kemp did his part, he won his election.    Donald, David, and Kelly didn't.

Trump killed Perdue and Loeffler's chances with his amateur legal efforts, inability to document voter fraud, stomping of his feet, and lashing out at Raffensperger and Kemp who have very very limited powers.

Layer on the the volume of calls directed at Republicans and it's no wonder they lost.  My phone was ringing every 15 minutes yesterday and my voice mail was filled up.    I even got calls  thanking me for voting.   Very annoying and demotivating.

I'm sad but not really surprised.    I'll predict in 2 years Kemp and Raffensperger will easily win re-election now that Trump is off the scene.

Warnock is up for re-election then as well.   If Doug Collins thinks he can win, there is his chance.
Link Posted: 1/6/2021 7:07:00 AM EST
i agree, the republican party as a whole has been weak and out of touch with the base. We deserve what we get.......................
Link Posted: 1/6/2021 7:36:27 AM EST
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out for the name  change
Link Posted: 1/6/2021 7:59:01 AM EST
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Originally Posted By mikefromphilly:
OK.   Except, Kemp did his part, he won his election.    Donald, David, and Kelly didn't.

Trump killed Perdue and Loeffler's chances with his amateur legal efforts, inability to document voter fraud, stomping of his feet, and lashing out at Raffensperger and Kemp who have very very limited powers.

Layer on the the volume of calls directed at Republicans and it's no wonder they lost.  My phone was ringing every 15 minutes yesterday and my voice mail was filled up.    I even got calls  thanking me for voting.   Very annoying and demotivating.

I'm sad but not really surprised.    I'll predict in 2 years Kemp and Raffensperger will easily win re-election now that Trump is off the scene.

Warnock is up for re-election then as well.   If Doug Collins thinks he can win, there is his chance.
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Kemp did nothing. His first mistake was putting Loeffler in office over Doug Collins. Trump did not kill Loeffler and Perdue's chances, they were bad candidates to begin with. Perdue would not debate and both Loeffler and Perdue had no message or platform.

Kemp and Reffensperger are done. The democrats flipped the senate seats and they will flip the governorship. What does Kemp have to run other than being a complete idiot. What has he done for Georgia since he has been elected other than give the teachers a $5,000 dollar raise and cut every state agency budget to the point where its hard for those agencies to run efficiently. Ask me how I know.

The republican party is out of touch with their base. Trump tried to tell them that but they did not listen, they just want things to go back to the way they used to be a defeatist party with no ideas and no message.

We deserved this, and we will pay for it rightly so
Link Posted: 1/6/2021 8:37:10 AM EST
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out for the name  change
Link Posted: 1/6/2021 8:47:17 AM EST
The Republican party needs to get a message and a platform. We don't have one and we also not united either. Another problem with our party is that we cannot compete with "FREE SHIT." The democrats keep telling "we gonna give you this and we gonna give you that, we gonna forgive your student loan and then give you money on top of that." That's what the democrats preach

What do we preach?.............Uh personal responsibility, uh tax cuts and less taxes and more money in your pocket. That is long term. We live in a what can you do for me right now world and most of the people in this country want the "free shit." Until we can come up with a message that can compete with "Free Shit" we are fucked.
Link Posted: 1/6/2021 8:55:30 AM EST
Republican voters are lazy.

Democrat voters get behind whatever candidate is presented, no matter the issues.
Link Posted: 1/6/2021 9:06:21 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Loonytik:
Republican voters are lazy.

Democrat voters get behind whatever candidate is presented, no matter the issues.
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Republican voters are not lazy. We are just tired of weak, RINO candidates being shoved down our throats.
Yes democrat voters get behind their candidates and do a much better job of getting out the vote.

the problem that happened with this election is that the republicans took all this for granted. Stacie Abrams did her homework and she along with the democratic party figured out a way to win. Why can't we do that? We've let counties that were Red go blue and we just write them off. If you look at the map of Georgia it is still red just not in the places that matter and our leadership refuses to think anything is wrong.

And anybody that thinks Kemp will win in a landslide in two years is foolish thinking.
Link Posted: 1/6/2021 9:18:26 AM EST
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Originally Posted By bubba497h2:
The Republican party needs to get a message and a platform. We don't have one and we also not united either. Another problem with our party is that we cannot compete with "FREE SHIT." The democrats keep telling "we gonna give you this and we gonna give you that, we gonna forgive your student loan and then give you money on top of that." That's what the democrats preach

What do we preach?.............Uh personal responsibility, uh tax cuts and less taxes and more money in your pocket. That is long term. We live in a what can you do for me right now world and most of the people in this country want the "free shit." Until we can come up with a message that can compete with "Free Shit" we are fucked.
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Simply repeating "my opponent is a radica/liberal/socialist" is not a platform.

Tell us WHY we should vote for you. What have you done? What will you do? What do you believe? Do you have any thoughts of your own, or are you simply a parrot?

The Democrats had better commercials, where they appeared to address the voters directly. They didn't need to use "scare tactics" to win votes.
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Originally Posted By bubba497h2:


Republican voters are not lazy. We are just tired of weak, RINO candidates being shoved down our throats.
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They are lazy. In the county I grew up in there are 37K registered voters. The county votes 80% Republican.

In the general election only 22K votes were cast meaning 15K didn't vote. Based on the percentage that means 12K Republicans didn't vote.....in a single county. Multiply that over all 159 counties in the state and that is a big number that didn't get off their ass and go vote.

The bold part of your statement above proves my point. Democrats will get behind whatever candidate is presented no matter what the issues are. Loeffler wouldn't be in a runoff if Doug Collins hadn't got into the race.
Link Posted: 1/6/2021 9:39:45 AM EST
Doug and Kelly fucked us.  We would not be in this position if there had been a sole candidate.  As for David, the Liberations fucked that up.  Let's face it, the Dems played to win, we did not.
Link Posted: 1/6/2021 9:43:13 AM EST
Loeffler's would have gone to a runoff, there were at least 17 people in that race and Warnock had the most votes in the first election. The thing that killed Loeffler and Perdue was the stock thing that happened in February and of course the media pounced on that and I really think that they were just bad candidates to begin with. I think Doug Collins would have faired better. But that's all water under the bridge now. we are stuck with Warnock and the other guy. I do agree that we have to get away from scare tactics and start appealing to the voters. Warnock had a very good media campaign.
Link Posted: 1/6/2021 9:43:50 AM EST
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Originally Posted By huey_crew_chief:
Doug and Kelly fucked us.  We would not be in this position if there had been a sole candidate.  As for David, the Liberations fucked that up.  Let's face it, the Dems played to win, we did not.
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We never play to win. That's our problem.
Link Posted: 1/6/2021 10:11:13 AM EST
Doug Collins killed Loeffler's chances.  The election was to fill two years of a vacant seat.  Collins could have waited for the full term in 2022 and still retained his house seat until then.

And then I see a poll that shows Collins as the republican leader for the 2022 governors race.  It doesn't matter who the republican leader is because Collins has helped destroy the republicans chances because of his arrogance which will lead to a Governor Abrams in 2022. To many in the swamp gave Collins continuous admiration which inflated his ego in the last two years leading to this disaster.

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Originally Posted By bubba497h2:
Loeffler's would have gone to a runoff, there were at least 17 people in that race and Warnock had the most votes in the first election. The thing that killed Loeffler and Perdue was the stock thing that happened in February and of course the media pounced on that and I really think that they were just bad candidates to begin with. I think Doug Collins would have faired better. But that's all water under the bridge now. we are stuck with Warnock and the other guy. I do agree that we have to get away from scare tactics and start appealing to the voters. Warnock had a very good media campaign.
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Warnock came into this with an advantage: No history in politics.

It's hard to attack someone whose background is almost entirely in the church.
Link Posted: 1/6/2021 10:18:23 AM EST
Who do I blame? I definitely blame Georgia conservatives who didn't go out and vote. They should be ashamed of themselves. But, we all know that liberals can't win without cheating. They can't win without telling black voters that whites are all hitler's and white supremacists. Many black voters voted for revenge. Most probably had no idea who this candidate was. Many white liberals voted for revenge.  The liberal candidates could have been child molesters and they would've voted for them. That's a difference between the left and the right.

You think it's bad now? Just wait.  Mark my words. You will see the left come after conservatives for pure revenge. Sites like this one, they will try to close down. I guarantee you they will try to shut down parlor.  We haven't seen censorship yet like we will see in the next four years.  Our first amendment rights and our Second Amendment rights are fucked.
Link Posted: 1/6/2021 10:25:13 AM EST
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Originally Posted By carl1000:
Who do I blame? I definitely blame Georgia conservatives who didn't go out and vote. They should be ashamed of themselves. But, we all know that liberals can't win without cheating. They can't win without telling black voters that whites are all hitler's and white supremacists. Many black voters voted for revenge. Most probably had no idea who this candidate was. Many white liberals voted for revenge.  The liberal candidates could have been child molesters and they would've voted for them. That's a difference between the left and the right.

You think it's bad now? Just wait.  Mark my words. You will see the left come after conservatives for pure revenge. Sites like this one, they will try to close down. I guarantee you they will try to shut down parlor.  We haven't seen censorship yet like we will see in the next four years.  Our first amendment rights and our Second Amendment rights are fucked.
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Blacks will vote for almost any black candidate. Yeah they will try to censor us. They are going to come after us though, I believe that whole heartedly and as usual our leadership is to blind to see it.
Link Posted: 1/6/2021 10:55:46 AM EST
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Originally Posted By bubba497h2:


Blacks will vote for almost any black candidate. Yeah they will try to censor us. They are going to come after us though, I believe that whole heartedly and as usual our leadership is to blind to see it.
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The Atl Metro area makes up roughly 60% of Georgia's population, and it’s increasing daily. If you don't appeal to the residents of the larger cities, you're simply not going to win.
Link Posted: 1/6/2021 11:05:21 AM EST
Yeah I know. If you look at the map all the major population centers are blue. The rest red.  Warnock and Ossoff never had to leave Atlanta.
Link Posted: 1/6/2021 11:14:48 AM EST
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Originally Posted By mikefromphilly:
OK.   Except, Kemp did his part, he won his election.    Donald, David, and Kelly didn't.

Trump killed Perdue and Loeffler's chances with his amateur legal efforts, inability to document voter fraud, stomping of his feet, and lashing out at Raffensperger and Kemp who have very very limited powers.

Layer on the the volume of calls directed at Republicans and it's no wonder they lost.  My phone was ringing every 15 minutes yesterday and my voice mail was filled up.    I even got calls  thanking me for voting.   Very annoying and demotivating.

I'm sad but not really surprised.    I'll predict in 2 years Kemp and Raffensperger will easily win re-election now that Trump is off the scene.

Warnock is up for re-election then as well.   If Doug Collins thinks he can win, there is his chance.
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This, Perdue and Loeffler lost due to Trump being an idiot.
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Originally Posted By Loonytik:
Republican voters are lazy.

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Exactly, the combination of Trump acting like a fool and Democrats outworking Republicans is why GA went blue.

Conspiracy theories are fun, but just an excuse to admitting that you got outworked.
Link Posted: 1/6/2021 12:41:28 PM EST
I agree to some point. Yes some republicans voters are lazy. I still think that Loeffler and Perdue were bad candidates to begin with. Republicans can no longer depend on scare tactics to win elections, they have to at least run on some platform which they didn't do.

Another thing that hurts republicans is that all the major population areas are democrat controlled. Republicans have made no effort to even try to turn those red hence why they are defeatist party, but they still want our money so they can stop the democrat agenda. At least they have one. Republicans don't.

Link Posted: 1/6/2021 12:56:30 PM EST
republicans have a few hurdles right out of the gate. Traditionally they are the party of "take your medicine." No one wants to be responsible for their own actions, and classical liberalism (what republicanism wants to be) is very much about self ownership.

Second is they love to hang on to this good ole boy club thing.

Third they cant get the fuck out of individuals private lives. Gay marriage shouldnt be a thing because government should not be involved in marriage period, not because of social conservatism.


If the republicans rebranded themselves into a classical liberal party, fiscally responsible (which they arent now) and kept government out of individual life choices (small government, remember) then they would resonate much better. Maybe, just maybe they'd start presenting candidates people can get excited to show up and vote for, and not slog in to strategically vote because the other guy is incrementally worse.


But when they keep running a wealthy, bible holding, big government, swamp creature, this is what we get.
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Originally Posted By billth777:
republicans have a few hurdles right out of the gate. Traditionally they are the party of "take your medicine." No one wants to be responsible for their own actions, and classical liberalism (what republicanism wants to be) is very much about self ownership.

Second is they love to hang on to this good ole boy club thing.

Third they cant get the fuck out of individuals private lives. Gay marriage shouldnt be a thing because government should not be involved in marriage period, not because of social conservatism.


If the republicans rebranded themselves into a classical liberal party, fiscally responsible (which they arent now) and kept government out of individual life choices (small government, remember) then they would resonate much better. Maybe, just maybe they'd start presenting candidates people can get excited to show up and vote for, and not slog in to strategically vote because the other guy is incrementally worse.


But when they keep running a wealthy, bible holding, big government, swamp creature, this is what we get.
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Damn. You the nail right on head. I could not agree more with your statement.
Link Posted: 1/6/2021 7:48:15 PM EST
No republican voters are not lazy .     But Georgia republican politicians are .  Very much so .


What in the hell have they done in the past few years to advance Georgia  ?  Nothing .   Has anyone heard them take a stand against anything .  Or for anything ?  I have not


Have any of them responded with any force or knowledge regarding the shutdowns we are suffering with at this time ?  NO .  Have they taken any stand that would be unpleasant but would be what the citizens need and want to hear ? NO.

Democrats close ranks when attacked .  Republicans when attacked they throw rank and file under the bus .   Each other and us.  If they where Football coaches this would be their last season .  Hell of a lot more losses than wins .  Actually what wins ?

Could say more but why bother ?


gd
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Originally Posted By Gentleman4561:
Exactly, the combination of Trump acting like a fool and Democrats outworking Republicans is why GA went blue.

Conspiracy theories are fun, but just an excuse to admitting that you got outworked.
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Nailed the first part.  Conspiracy theories aren't fun when they're used as an excuse to terrorize and vandalize.

False "patriots."

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Originally Posted By bubba497h2:


We never play to win. That's our problem.
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Agreed
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Originally Posted By Stasher1:



Warnock came into this with an advantage: No history in politics.

It's hard to attack someone whose background is almost entirely in the church.
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He has plenty of history - the media would not cover it
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Originally Posted By Stasher1:



Warnock came into this with an advantage: No history in politics.

It's hard to attack someone whose background is almost entirely in the church.
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Except that pretty much everything that comes out of his mouth is offensive to anyone who loves America.  He hasn't said much that can't be attacked.
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Originally Posted By Stasher1:



Simply repeating "my opponent is a radica/liberal/socialist" is not a platform.

Tell us WHY we should vote for you. What have you done? What will you do? What do you believe? Do you have any thoughts of your own, or are you simply a parrot?

The Democrats had better commercials, where they appeared to address the voters directly. They didn't need to use "scare tactics" to win votes.
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This. I watched the Warnock / Loeffler debate after the general election. That was the first time I heard her speak. I told my wife that I regretted voting for her in the general.
When deciding who to vote for between her and Collins I looked at voting records. She voted with Trump dang near every time. So she got my vote. I wish I could get that vote back.
I voted for her in the runoff bit I sure didn't want to.
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Originally Posted By Knothead71:
This. I watched the Warnock / Loeffler debate after the general election. That was the first time I heard her speak. I told my wife that I regretted voting for her in the general.
When deciding who to vote for between her and Collins I looked at voting records. She voted with Trump dang near every time. So she got my vote. I wish I could get that vote back.
I voted for her in the runoff bit I sure didn't want to.
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I think the debate could've been a great drinking game. Just take a shot every time she says "radical liberal Raphael Warnock" and see if you can make it all the way through without passing out.
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Originally Posted By bubba497h2:
Trump did not kill Loeffler and Perdue's chances, they were bad candidates to begin with. Perdue would not debate and both Loeffler and Perdue had no message or platform.
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Originally Posted By bubba497h2:
Trump did not kill Loeffler and Perdue's chances, they were bad candidates to begin with. Perdue would not debate and both Loeffler and Perdue had no message or platform.

They were horrible candidates.

Originally Posted By bubba497h2:
What has he done for Georgia since he has been elected other than give the teachers a $5,000 dollar raise and cut every state agency budget to the point where its hard for those agencies to run efficiently.

Don't forget that great Heartbeat Bill.
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Originally Posted By huey_crew_chief:
Doug and Kelly fucked us.  We would not be in this position if there had been a sole candidate.
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The votes for all the republicans who ran in that Nov. race (there were more than Kelly and Doug) combined still wouldn't have made it to 50%.
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Originally Posted By brakeman123:
It doesn't matter who the republican leader is because Collins has helped destroy the republicans chances because of his arrogance which will lead to a Governor Abrams in 2022.
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Mail in voting and Dominion machines will ensure governor Abrams.
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Originally Posted By Stasher1:
The Atl Metro area makes up roughly 60% of Georgia's population, and it’s increasing daily. If you don't appeal to the residents of the larger cities, you're simply not going to win.
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This.
The 6 largest cities by population are solid blue.
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Originally Posted By Extorris:

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The only reason Abrams didn't get elected two years ago is that more people voted against her than voted for Kemp.
That won't happen in 2022. Kemp has pissed off everybody and the republican party needs to understand that and they either need to get a new candidate that can turn this around, and start making inroads to minority community, which they will do neither because they will throw all their support behind Kemp, who I hope gets beat in the primary.
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Originally Posted By bubba497h2:
That won't happen in 2022. Kemp has pissed off everybody and the republican party needs to understand that and they either need to get a new candidate that can turn this around, and start making inroads to minority community, which they will do neither because they will throw all their support behind Kemp, who I hope gets beat in the primary.
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Then they're going to lose easily in 2022.
Link Posted: 1/9/2021 9:52:54 AM EST
All water under the bridge now and the bridge is on fire...

Maybe you folks need to think about what now because "what if" has already happened. Life for the have-nots is not going to measurably change but that's probably not going to be the case for everybody else. Those of you wanting to be able to defend and express yourself and/or have any religious affiliation will be the first to notice the change...or then again maybe not. Just another opinion based on observation of the promises made by those who have seized power. Oh and by the way, we're 07/02 SOT and have another engraving machine on the way so we can help facilitate the "Great NFA Expansion" that"s been talked about by the incoming administration. Unfortunately I won't be much of a help after the $200 transfer tax of 1934 has been adjusted to the current 2021 dollar
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Originally Posted By mikefromphilly:
I'm sad but not really surprised.    I'll predict in 2 years Kemp and Raffensperger will easily win re-election now that Trump is off the scene.
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@mikefromphilly

Bet. $20-40 on paypal/venmo.

At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if Kemp is primaried.
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Originally Posted By 57fairlane:@mikefromphilly

Bet. $20-40 on paypal/venmo.

At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if Kemp is primaried.
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I'm going to be a pussy on that bet.  

My track record is shaken lately.   Back in late 2019, I couldn't see how Trump could lose.    And as late as mid-December, I couldn't see how Perdue would lose to Ossoff (incumbents never lose).  Kelly I wasn't sure about since the Democrats were running a modern day image of Dr. King.



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Back in late 2019, I couldn't see how Trump could lose.    



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He wasnt going to lose at that time. The fallout from corona is what killed him.
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Originally Posted By mikefromphilly:

I'm going to be a pussy on that bet.

My track record is shaken lately.   Back in late 2019, I couldn't see how Trump could lose.    And as late as mid-December, I couldn't see how Perdue would lose to Ossoff (incumbents never lose).  Kelly I wasn't sure about since the Democrats were running a modern day image of Dr. King.
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I think Perdue should have asked for a recount. His margin was close enough he might have gotten it.
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He wasnt going to lose at that time. The fallout from corona is what killed him.
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Originally Posted By mikefromphilly:

Back in late 2019, I couldn't see how Trump could lose.    





He wasnt going to lose at that time. The fallout from corona is what killed him.
He was in a damned if you do or damned if you don't situation.
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Originally Posted By billth777:


He wasnt going to lose at that time. The fallout from corona is what killed him.
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Originally Posted By mikefromphilly:

Back in late 2019, I couldn't see how Trump could lose.    





He wasnt going to lose at that time. The fallout from corona is what killed him.



I think it definitely had an impact on the election, but his approval numbers were never great. His ratings were lower than any past US President, from at least 1942 on. If we take the coronavirus out of the equation, he may have won in 2020, but it would've been a much closer race.
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Originally Posted By mikefromphilly:


I'm going to be a pussy on that bet.  

My track record is shaken lately.   Back in late 2019, I couldn't see how Trump could lose.    And as late as mid-December, I couldn't see how Perdue would lose to Ossoff (incumbents never lose).  Kelly I wasn't sure about since the Democrats were running a modern day image of Dr. King.



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I wouldn't be too hard on yourself for the Trump call.  I truly believe corona and riots fucked him hard in 2020.
Link Posted: 1/12/2021 4:10:44 PM EST
I believe they had been planning this since the day after the election in 2016.

The problem now is, where do we go from here? We have seen that our elected leaders hate us, and there are 75+ million people pissed off.
I don't know the answer but we have to have some type of leadership that can rally all these people together into a movement.
Link Posted: 1/13/2021 7:46:43 AM EST
The problem is the republican party at a management level. The party hated Trump but wanted his voters. He turned out people. People have forgotten that Georgia was a moderate democrat state for the past 120 years and 2 of the past 3 republican governors were originally democrats. The problem will be when it swings back to democrat is will swing to socialist democrat instead of moderate.

The republicans ran horrible ads and told you nothing. Warnock of the four running ran the best ads. The ads are your only real chance to sway voters. Perdue should have tried harder in the first election and not had the second. Perdue seemed less than excited to be running for office. Also fraud has to be addressed.  Voter rolls have to be fixed and the dead removed. Rathesburger (sp) said 1800+ people manly in Fulton and Dekalb voted twice. He announced they would not be charged. We all know that is 3600+ democrat votes were added as a result of this alone and would have put Perdue  close to 50%+1 as needed He missed by .22% +1 of the vote.  Perdue drew 220,000 less voters in the second election Ossoff drew 170,000 less votes. At the end of the day the republicans need stronger candidates and need to work on their ground game. The democrats will drive any and everyone to vote on election day and they knock on doors.
Link Posted: 1/13/2021 9:31:12 AM EST
If Democrats can keep urban black people voting, the Republicans will never win another statewide election in GA.
Link Posted: 1/14/2021 10:32:47 AM EST
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Originally Posted By whiskerz:
The problem is the republican party at a management level. The party hated Trump but wanted his voters. He turned out people. People have forgotten that Georgia was a moderate democrat state for the past 120 years and 2 of the past 3 republican governors were originally democrats. The problem will be when it swings back to democrat is will swing to socialist democrat instead of moderate.
      The republicans ran horrible ads and told you nothing. Warnock of the four running ran the best ads. The ads are your only real chance to sway voters. Perdue should have tried harder in the first election and not had the second. Perdue seemed less than excited to be running for office. Also fraud has to be addressed.  Voter rolls have to be fixed and the dead removed. Rathesburger (sp) said 1800+ people manly in Fulton and Dekalb voted twice. He announced they would not be charged. We all know that is 3600+ democrat votes were added as a result of this alone and would have put Perdue  close to 50%+1 as needed He missed by .22% +1 of the vote.  Perdue drew 220,000 less voters in the second election Ossoff drew 170,000 less votes. At the end of the day the republicans need stronger candidates and need to work on their ground game. The democrats will drive any and everyone to vote on election day and they knock on doors.
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You are absolutely correct.
Link Posted: 1/14/2021 10:38:00 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Stasher1:
If Democrats can keep urban black people voting, the Republicans will never win another statewide election in GA.
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That where the republican party needs to be. Blacks voted republican all the way up to Kennedy and then just switched. The Republican Party needs to show them what they have done for them over the course of the party's history.

If I were the Republican Party, I would go to cities Like San Francisco, Detroit, Baltimore, Austin, Los Angeles, and Oakland and just show the plight of these cities and what Liberal and Democrat government has done to them and show that the democrat party does not care for them.

But they won't. I know it's a pipe dream and the republican's will just put their head in the sand.
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