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Posted: 4/24/2018 10:00:44 PM EDT
If you know of someone reasonable or with a good reputation...
Link Posted: 4/30/2018 3:39:09 PM EDT
[#1]
LOL good luck buddy they always win so you get to pay your lawyer court costs and the ticket ? sounds like a losing proposition
Link Posted: 5/2/2018 12:19:34 AM EDT
[#2]
Where you speeding?   odds are yes.   Pay your ticket and move on.

I speed on freeways all the time. If I do get a ticket I MAN UP pay it and move on.
Link Posted: 5/3/2018 10:39:17 PM EDT
[#3]
I was speeding but the officer said I was going way faster than what I was. He was a detective in an unmarked car and I am not certain how he can measure the speed unless maybe they can do it on video or something like that.
Link Posted: 5/7/2018 10:57:54 PM EDT
[#4]
Where at in Utah?
Link Posted: 5/14/2018 7:26:58 PM EDT
[#5]
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Davis County.  I retained a lawyer and he feels we have a good case.
Link Posted: 5/14/2018 7:30:59 PM EDT
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Hope it works out for you.
Link Posted: 5/15/2018 9:04:24 PM EDT
[#7]
Funny story, when I was 16 or 17 radar detectors were kind of new and I had one. I was also terrified of getting a speeding ticket so I didn't speed. I was driving to school one day and my radar detector went to 11 in an area known for highway patrol. This was ~1988 rural North Carolina, by the way. Slowed down to exactly 55 way before I saw the highway patrol. He spun around and wrote me a ticket for 70 mph. I was driving a '76 toyota corolla and told him the unlikely probability of it actually achieving that speed given the hill I was climbing. Didn't help and he wasn't letting me out of whatever his radar gun said.

Went to court, pleaded Innocent, Judge gave me defensive driving school.

I was also a motorcyclist at the time (still am) and racing bicycles (racing is long gone but I still ride a lot). The DD instructor had an exercise with diagrams for us to determine following distance based on who could stop faster with different vehicle combinations. One was a loaded dump truck vs. motorcycle. I said the motorcycle could stop faster. She lectured me and the class for 10 minutes about how a loaded dump truck could stop much faster because it was so heavy... I learned a lot through that experience. Mostly that no matter how "right" I was I was still "wrong" to the system.

Anyway, good luck to you OP. You're probably right, but don't expect the system to judge it that way.
Link Posted: 5/16/2018 4:13:41 PM EDT
[#8]
Branson West was very helpful to me when I had a cop try to fuck me with the long dick of the law.
Link Posted: 8/27/2018 11:24:50 PM EDT
[#9]
I retained Joseph Jardine and he did awesome.  Got the charge reduced from reckless driving to 5 over the limit.
Link Posted: 8/27/2018 11:48:59 PM EDT
[#10]
Nice! Not easy to beat "contempt of cop" charges.
Link Posted: 9/21/2018 8:42:08 PM EDT
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There is a dickhead of a cop that drives an unmarked car, patrols legacy often.

One tip: if they ask for your phone number when giving you a total bs of a ticket. DECLINE!!

I have to drive with my phone in airplane mode or i get harrassed by assholes with badges when driving through centerville/Farmington.

Good times...
Link Posted: 9/22/2018 2:01:22 PM EDT
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There is a dickhead of a cop that drives an unmarked car, patrols legacy often.

One tip: if they ask for your phone number when giving you a total bs of a ticket. DECLINE!!

I have to drive with my phone in airplane mode or i get harrassed by assholes with badges when driving through centerville/Farmington.

Good times...
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Got pulled over on Legacy at 0430 one Sunday by an unmarked Toyota Camry, cop said my bike was too loud and he was going to impound it. When I asked why he pulled me over, his response was that I failed to dim my high beams. He held me there for about 45 minutes waiting for someone to come out with a meter to measure the dB from my exhaust. No one showed up, but before he would release me, he insisted on my phone number, which I found strange, now I know why. I gave him the number to my work phone which rarely comes home with me anymore.
Link Posted: 9/22/2018 7:35:24 PM EDT
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Douche that did it to me had a 'traffic investigation' badge.

I got the ticket because he was causing a traffic jam due to him changing his speed from 40mph to 55mph.

There was a car next to him trying to allow him to move right, but the asshat kept changing his speed to match up with the red pris.

I nearly got rear ended about 5x before i moved right to watch what was happening....
I ended up getting involved because the asshole was doing it deliberately.

After trying to deal with the ticket for over two weeks. I wanted to fight it, but in the end i was just glad to finally have to taken care of vs dealing with a warrant and my permit...

I have a dash cam in all of my cars now, and my car insurance doubled due to that fuck.

Eta: if they push for the number, either make one up or stick to your guns and decline.
Main question to ask them would be something along the lines "well you have my address, send me a letter?".
I would stick to the " no thanks, why would i want that?!"
Link Posted: 12/16/2018 6:40:58 PM EDT
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What's the point of the police asking for your phone number?

I have gotten to the point I dont give out my phone number or e-mail to anyone.

Dont care who it is.
Link Posted: 12/17/2018 4:11:06 AM EDT
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What's the point of the police asking for your phone number?

I have gotten to the point I dont give out my phone number or e-mail to anyone.

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Sell it to telemarketers. Revenue for the city. Duh.
Link Posted: 12/18/2018 7:14:29 PM EDT
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Funny, however i got some data on the system that was being given out to law enforcement a few years ago...

The device i know of is pretty much a laptop, it acts as a cell phone tower...

If memory serves me, it was made by aries telecom or something very close.

There are many free apps out there that do an ok job showing you a towers location on a map, i found it usually locates them within a few hundred yards.

Playing with one i showed a solid hit on an unmarked car twice so far, it will only connect for a second before it disconnects.

A savy officer can change his distance a few times if he wishes to trigger a connection...
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 7:45:35 PM EDT
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There is a dickhead of a cop that drives an unmarked car, patrols legacy often.

One tip: if they ask for your phone number when giving you a total bs of a ticket. DECLINE!!

I have to drive with my phone in airplane mode or i get harrassed by assholes with badges when driving through centerville/Farmington.

Good times...
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Perhaps I'm just a bit slow, but I'm struggling to follow what you're saying on this. The cop got your phone number from you. Are you saying that the cops have something that detects when your cell connects to a nearby tower? Or perhaps they're running a Stingray in the area and detecting you? And then you get harassed by the cops in the area?

I'm not arguing with you. Just trying to figure it out.

In my 30 years of driving, I've had two speeding tickets. I was never asked for a phone number, even with the ticket I got in Highland about 4 years ago. What if you, uh, inadvertently  mispronounce one of the numbers of your cell phone and they record it wrong? That would be a shame.
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 8:31:13 PM EDT
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The asshat i ran into with the "traffic investigations" badge also asked me where i work.

I still remember the super creepy look on his face.

Point i want to make for everyone reading this..
Ask yourself: why in the fuck sakes would he need to know that?

Eta: i believe this is part of their "crack down" on aggressive drivers.
And the asshat totally gave me the "oh I have the perfect way to punish you" look on his face.

It's super creepy...
Anyways, this subject stresses the hell out of me.
I'm thinking i either buy a new car, or i lawer up and go after them for harrassment.

And before i ran into this guy, my last ticket was over 18 years ago...
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 8:42:02 PM EDT
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There are also other things that happened while this was happening, i thought it was funny and welcomed the police escort as i saw it.

Hower it quickly became not funny, and just flat out fucked up and creepy.

Anyways, I'm done writing about this, my blood pressure gets pretty high when thinking about thos crap...

Eta: if you want to get an idea how cell towers and cell phones work, download a cell tower tracking app.

Switch it to map mode and watch it as your moving.
Notice how your device connects to different towers as you move.
Also notice how your device gets rejected from one tower and to another tower, even if the first tower has a stronger signal strength (load balancing).

I have a bit of a background in communications...

And it's not cell towers, its portable devices that ACT like cell towers.
Your device will see it, and try to connect.
Usually only for a second, but long enough to transmit basic data to authenticate...

Its the same shit that they used to find bin laden.
And yes, law enforcement has been given several of these devices.
Apparently to stalk and harrass whomever they see fit with no warants needed...

I also know that those that have them, and use them, were required to sign a non disclosure agreement by the owning telcom company.
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