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Posted: 7/12/2022 11:33:01 AM EDT
We caught an image last night on the game camera. We are trying to determine which cat this might be. I am purposely not saying what I think it is, so I don't muddy the waters.
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Posted: 7/12/2022 11:37:38 AM EDT
[#1]
Malnourished Bobcat?
i may have to change my answer, i think the ears make it a Ocelot or i could be wrong, again  Attached File |
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Posted: 7/12/2022 11:55:12 AM EDT
[#2]
Looks like a bobcat.
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Posted: 7/12/2022 12:59:00 PM EDT
[#3]
Babcat
Time for a hunt OP! |
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Posted: 7/12/2022 1:03:32 PM EDT
[#4]
Looks like a bobcat to me
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Posted: 7/12/2022 2:52:57 PM EDT
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Ok, the majority of responses say Bobcat. Maybe emaciated but could be a Bobcat. Unfortunately, we don't have any other images that show the markings on the cat's body. At first look I was thinking it was an Ocelot. Looking at the shape of the ears, feet, and the fur on its face look more like and Ocelot than a Bobcat. Even the physique looks more like and Ocelot than a Bobcat.
I was really hoping for an Ocelot since they are endangered. |
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Posted: 7/12/2022 3:18:24 PM EDT
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Looks more ocelot to me. bobs have shorter legs I think. But in general I would leave it alone unless its damaging something of yours.
Contact the local game warden, they may be able to trap it if its looking for food pretty easily and rehab or remove, or put it down if its sick. |
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Posted: 7/12/2022 3:25:26 PM EDT
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I have no intentions of harming the cat. I do shoot at the feral hogs when we see them and can get a clear shot. My wife has reached out to some folks at the Parks and Wildlife Department. So far, the one response we received said Bobcat.
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Posted: 7/12/2022 4:31:21 PM EDT
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The place we used to hunt, Coleman Co. between Brownwood and San Angelo, there were always reports of big cats, occasionally someone would shoot a mountain lion. Probably 10 years back, there were several people who claimed to have seen ocelots or "mexican spotted cats".
Around Dallas though, it's just bobcats everywhere. Even in town. You do not want to corner one and piss it off. |
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Posted: 7/12/2022 6:47:07 PM EDT
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About 7 years ago one of our regular customers showed a phot from the game camera he had on the concrete water trough at his place between Bertram and Burnet. It was a really clear photo and it was easy to a Black Panther.
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Posted: 7/12/2022 6:52:48 PM EDT
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Looks long and angular to be a bobcat, even an emaciated one.
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Posted: 7/12/2022 9:38:14 PM EDT
[#11]
Stumpy-tailed Speckled Possum
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Posted: 7/12/2022 10:35:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have no intentions of harming the cat. I do shoot at the feral hogs when we see them and can get a clear shot. My wife has reached out to some folks at the Parks and Wildlife Department. So far, the one response we received said Bobcat. I still say ocelot. The legs seem too long to be a bobcat, and the ear patch is much more pronounced than you'd expect in a babcat. |
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Posted: 7/12/2022 10:57:35 PM EDT
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Any photos of the tail? That would be diagnostic for determining the species.
What county? Ocelot had a large range before eradication. Now their numbers are stuffed into far reaches of the Rio Grande Valley. Anything is possible with even mountain lions. One was documented in Rowlett and through the Princeton area a couple years ago. Like all sightings, pics or it didn't happen rule applies. |
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Posted: 7/13/2022 8:07:55 AM EDT
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This is Burnet County, east of Lake Buchannon. Lots of ranch land that is undeveloped so there is a lot of areas for the cats to hide out during the day.
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Posted: 7/13/2022 9:15:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is Burnet County, east of Lake Buchannon. Lots of ranch land that is undeveloped so there is a lot of areas for the cats to hide out during the day. Bobcat for sure. But anything is possible and can be justified if you have solid proof. The Rowlett mountain lion for instance defied all logic. Here is a video of it along Dalrock https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPQneAndbEs |
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Posted: 7/13/2022 10:41:19 AM EDT
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We are hoping for another photo of the cat. we have multiple cameras around the property. Maybe we will get lucky and get a photo that shows the tail clear enough to make the final determination on which species.
We have seen a couple of unusual animals out here. we watch and American Hog Nose Skunk wander around one evening. Neither of us had ever seen a Hog Nosed Skunk. The local game warden had not seen one either. The variety of plants and animals that are native to our place continues to amaze us. |
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Posted: 7/13/2022 11:17:55 AM EDT
[#17]
90% it's a bobcat but could be an ocelot if in deep south Texas.
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Posted: 7/13/2022 11:20:21 AM EDT
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Wife and I had a discussion about that. Ears remind us of an ocelot, but the markings and shape scream bobcat. Could be some weird hybrid?
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Posted: 7/13/2022 11:27:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We have seen a couple of unusual animals out here. we watch and American Hog Nose Skunk wander around one evening. Neither of us had ever seen a Hog Nosed Skunk. The local game warden had not seen one either. I have seen one at Colorado Bend State Park. There is a pretty stable population of them centric to an area South of San Saba, North of Llano and west of Burnet. |
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Posted: 7/14/2022 10:49:45 AM EDT
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Those legs and ears just don't match a bobcat IMO. Even if emaciated, a bobcat's legs are short and stocky in appearance, and they have very defined ear structure. We have quite a few bobcats around here, and I occasionally flush one out while mountain biking on our local trail. There have been one or two families of them living out there for decades.
Especially in Texas, it's not that unusual to see far ranging, out of habitation animals. However, I'm still waiting for Bigfoot pics. 
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Posted: 7/14/2022 11:29:36 AM EDT
[#21]
It does look more like an ocelot than a bobcat, but hard to tell. You are quite a ways from what's considered the range of the Texas ocelot, but that doesn't mean one hasn't moved further north.
These folks help protect the ocelots that are left in Texas, and might be able to take a look at your photo and see what species it is. https://www.texasocelots.com/ [email protected] |
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Posted: 7/14/2022 6:14:13 PM EDT
[#22]
Thanks for the information. I will reach out to them.
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Posted: 7/14/2022 8:28:59 PM EDT
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I'm going with a large bobcat that is malnourished.... there are tons of large bobcats in Burnet County, plenty of turkeys, rabbits, fawns, etc to predate upon.
Hard to say without seeing the tail. Looks a bit too tall to be an ocelot to my eyes, I'm no expert as I've only seen one in the wild in my lifetime, but have seen a couple of mountain lions and a metric shit ton of bobcats of all sizes in Burnet Co as well as a couple of very large black cats in Bastrop County. |
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Posted: 7/15/2022 12:41:15 AM EDT
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That’s a bobcat OP. I know you’re hoping for Ocelot but it’s not. Still beautiful animal to have on your place.
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Posted: 7/15/2022 8:28:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Those legs and ears just don't match a bobcat IMO. Even if emaciated, a bobcat's legs are short and stocky in appearance, and they have very defined ear structure. That's the way I'm leaning, although I haven't seen enough scrawny bobcats to say definitively that that's not what it is. It's certainly not a healthy, normal bobcat. |
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Posted: 7/15/2022 4:00:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's the way I'm leaning, although I haven't seen enough scrawny bobcats to say definitively that that's not what it is. It's certainly not a healthy, normal bobcat. Like I said, it might be a hybrid. The markings and general shape match a bobcat well, but the ears don't. Could be a bobcat mixed with some domestic cat. |
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Posted: 7/15/2022 6:00:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Like I said, it might be a hybrid. The markings and general shape match a bobcat well, but the ears don't. Could be a bobcat mixed with some domestic cat. Bobcats are normally stockier (shorter legs and not as lean). Usually not this spotted (adults), either, but sometimes they do have prominent spots in adulthood. |
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Posted: 7/15/2022 11:17:01 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Those legs and ears just don't match a bobcat IMO. Even if emaciated, a bobcat's legs are short and stocky in appearance, and they have very defined ear structure. We have quite a few bobcats around here, and I occasionally flush one out while mountain biking on our local trail. There have been one or two families of them living out there for decades. Especially in Texas, it's not that unusual to see far ranging, out of habitation animals. However, I'm still waiting for Bigfoot pics. They are out there.  Attached File |
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Posted: 7/21/2022 1:16:27 PM EDT
[#29]
It kind of looks like a jaguarundi, but it is probably an ocelot.
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Posted: 7/21/2022 7:23:53 PM EDT
[#30]
I sent the photo to the folks at Friends of Laguna Atascosa. I'm waiting to hear back on what they see. We just got back from the property and checked around the area of the game camera as well as around the edge of the water. We did not see any type of cat tracks at the edge of the water. No other photos have shown up yet.
But I am looking forward to getting pictures of Big Foot on our cameras. |
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Posted: 7/21/2022 8:26:15 PM EDT
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Mike Bodenchuk is the cat expert in Texas. You can look him up and contact him if you run into a dead end. He works for USDA and is the best of the best when it comes to knowing cats, tracking and trapping. When mountain lions are on the prowl Mike is on their scent.
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Posted: 7/22/2022 1:06:12 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It kind of looks like a jaguarundi, but it is probably an ocelot. Gents, it’s a bobcat. Not an Ocelot or Jaguarudi. This is reaching GD snake ID levels. |
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Posted: 7/22/2022 1:58:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is reaching GD snake ID levels. So what you're really saying is it's a gotdam evil PitBull and should be nuked from fucking earth 
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Posted: 7/22/2022 8:23:38 AM EDT
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If we did that, would the feral hogs glow in the dark?
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Posted: 7/22/2022 8:59:40 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If we did that, would the feral hogs glow in the dark? Crap, I hope so! That would turn my coors light into night vision goggles. |
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Posted: 7/22/2022 9:18:45 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Gents, it’s a bobcat. Not an Ocelot or Jaguarudi. This is reaching GD snake ID levels. Don't get your shorts in a wad. It's actually a saber tooth tiger long thought extinct by nonbelievers. And just this morning I saw a 25' python in my corn bin.
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Posted: 7/23/2022 9:56:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Don't get your shorts in a wad. It's actually a saber tooth tiger long thought extinct by nonbelievers. And just this morning I saw a 25' python in my corn bin. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Gents, it’s a bobcat. Not an Ocelot or Jaguarudi. This is reaching GD snake ID levels. Don't get your shorts in a wad. It's actually a saber tooth tiger long thought extinct by nonbelievers. And just this morning I saw a 25' python in my corn bin. I'd take BobWeaver's word on it as he's very knowledgeable in this field, and spends a ton of time in the wild, particularly in OP's AO. I'm no expert either, but as previously mentioned in this thread I have seen tons of bobcats in OP's AO in various states of health throughout my entire lifetime. I have not lived in Burnet County in over 24 years but have hunted there my entire life. It's an emaciated older bobcat from what I can see in the pic. Here's a healthy female from the same county as OP, that I shot the day before deer season opener last year.  |
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Posted: 7/24/2022 6:09:40 PM EDT
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Quoted: We caught an image last night on the game camera. We are trying to determine which cat this might be. I am purposely not saying what I think it is, so I don't muddy the waters. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/43677/Night_Visitor_JPG-2450066.jpg FWIW, if your camera settings will allow you to have the camera take 2 photos every time it detects motion, you'll often solve these questions. |
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Posted: 7/25/2022 9:35:40 AM EDT
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I will look at the camera settings. That could help.
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Posted: 7/25/2022 9:37:29 AM EDT
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On a side note, I saw a news story this AM about Jaguars being more common in southern AZ now. Man, I thought they were more of a jungle animal. Interesting story, and perhaps increased human activity has caused them to move outside their more common habitat.
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Posted: 7/25/2022 1:41:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: On a side note, I saw a news story this AM about Jaguars being more common in southern AZ now. Man, I thought they were more of a jungle animal. Interesting story, and perhaps increased human activity has caused them to move outside their more common habitat. They were native to the SW U.S. including Texas and are still in parts of Norther Mexico. |
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Posted: 7/27/2022 11:21:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They were native to the SW U.S. including Texas and are still in parts of Norther Mexico. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: On a side note, I saw a news story this AM about Jaguars being more common in southern AZ now. Man, I thought they were more of a jungle animal. Interesting story, and perhaps increased human activity has caused them to move outside their more common habitat. They were native to the SW U.S. including Texas and are still in parts of Norther Mexico. Yes, that is true, there has been some recent sightings in the US. At one time, according to some material I've read from historical documents, they used to roam as far north as what is known as the Buchanan Basin along the Colorado River, along with black bears, jaguarandi and red wolves but the settlers along with market hunters wiped them all out. I'm convinced the pair of large black cats I saw about 17 years ago not far from Bastrop were black jaguars, I cannot confirm that's what I saw, but they were being chased across an open pasture, approximately 450-500 yds wide at about 100 yds away from where me and a coworker were standing, by a very large APBT type dog . These cats were definitely larger than a mountain lion as they dwarfed the 100lb+ dog that was hot on their trail. I know it sounds like BS, but at the time there had been several confirmed sightings of large black cats along the Colorado River between Austin and the Gulf Coast. OP's cat is an emaciated bobcat. |
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Posted: 8/1/2022 5:05:24 PM EDT
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I once encountered a jaguarundi on my ranch
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Posted: 8/1/2022 6:02:56 PM EDT
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1948 was the last physical proof they existed when what was thought to be the last Jaguar in TX was killed near Kingsville. I have had several old timers, ranchers and farmers, swear they had sightings back into the 1980’s, and one rancher in a remote area between Nixon and Cuero claiming to have seen one several times between 2006-2012 when I was doing some work on his ranch. He was in his 80’s and an ex TX Ranger who knew the land and its species very, very well, so I trusted he was telling the truth.
I’ll admit this much, if I knew for a fact that there were Jaguars roaming the woods at night, I would definitely not do some of the solo eradication work I’ve done in the past. Short of a Bengal Tiger, I don’t think there is anything else out there that would frighten me more than knowing a Jaguar could be lurking in the shadows. It’s neat to know they were fairly common throughout Central Texas not that long ago. |
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Posted: 8/2/2022 3:31:01 PM EDT
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jaguarundi are relatively small
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