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Posted: 5/31/2022 4:39:04 PM EDT
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Has Tom King weighed in on this yet or has he been too busy gargling Wayne LaPierre’s balls?
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Posted: 5/31/2022 6:30:07 PM EDT
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Hate to say it but I stopped caring in 2013 after the SAFE Act passed. It is all just noise now. Maybe we will have an avenue to challenge if SCOTUS is in the mood.
Regardless, it will pass in days and take years to challenge. I'll be out of this state by then. |
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Posted: 5/31/2022 6:42:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hate to say it but I stopped caring in 2013 after the SAFE Act passed. It is all just noise now. Maybe we will have an avenue to challenge if SCOTUS is in the mood. Regardless, it will pass in days and take years to challenge. I'll be out of this state by then. I agree 100% There’s a time to fight and a time to cut losses. We are not going to win anything here. Even if the supremes deem our permit system unconstitutional, NY will just respond in kind with 20 new requirements on us knowing full well that it will take 50 more years to settle it out. It’s “their” sandbox boys and we’re not welcome. Hochul: Hochul, speaking before the details of the bill were announced, said she won’t let that ruling deter her. “I’m not going to let my fear of losing a court case to stop me from what I think is correct for New Yorkers and what will protect them,” Hochul said on May 25. “You may get a judge who actually cares and has common sense, who would understand that these are not punitive measures.” |
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Posted: 5/31/2022 7:15:42 PM EDT
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    Think that about covers it. |
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Posted: 5/31/2022 9:36:00 PM EDT
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Yeah time to move. This state is totally fucked.
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Posted: 6/1/2022 7:23:26 PM EDT
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How can they ban "body armor"? They are taking away protection from victims. WTF?
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Posted: 6/1/2022 7:34:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How can they ban "body armor"? They are taking away protection from victims. WTF? Well, yeah. They are taking away the only guns suitable for self defense, so I don't think they really care about the victims of criminals. |
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Posted: 6/1/2022 9:03:46 PM EDT
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Shockwaves are done
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Posted: 6/2/2022 8:05:48 AM EDT
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Moving is your only option to enjoy the rest of your life in partial freedom.
How can you fight to get rights in NY? You can't win. You can only stay and take a beating. Move - its worth it. |
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Posted: 6/2/2022 10:26:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Moving is your only option to enjoy the rest of your life in partial freedom. How can you fight to get rights in NY? You can't win. You can only stay and take a beating. Move - its worth it. |
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Posted: 6/2/2022 7:03:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hate to say it but I stopped caring in 2013 after the SAFE Act passed. It is all just noise now. Agreed. I've done all the "Complying with law" I ever intend to do. They can pass whatever law they want now, IDGAF. |
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Posted: 6/2/2022 9:28:59 PM EDT
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Every bill has passed pretty much. We are done.
Microstamping means no new handguns in a few years. License to own a semi auto rifle...that basically ends all sales of every gun suitable for self defense. Banning "others" with no grandfathering or compensation...how is that even legal? What does everyone do with the guns they bought when they were legal? Fuck you NY politicians. |
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Posted: 6/2/2022 9:50:26 PM EDT
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Looks like class E felony if you give away or sell a semi auto rifle to anyone, including your wife, that doesn’t have a license. So lumpednin with a rapist, a kidnapper, criminally negligent killer, child beater, and so on.
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Posted: 6/2/2022 11:17:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Every bill has passed pretty much. We are done. Microstamping means no new handguns in a few years. License to own a semi auto rifle...that basically ends all sales of every gun suitable for self defense. Banning "others" with no grandfathering or compensation...how is that even legal? What does everyone do with the guns they bought when they were legal? Fuck you NY politicians. I didn't think anyone would top Cuomo ramming through the Safe Act but yet here we are, god damn. |
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Posted: 6/2/2022 11:50:16 PM EDT
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Does anyone have a link to the actual legal text of all these new laws?
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Posted: 6/3/2022 12:04:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Does anyone have a link to the actual legal text of all these new laws? at the top of nyrkba posts on each one or go to the link in this op find the number of each google ny law axxxxx |
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Posted: 6/3/2022 12:08:45 AM EDT
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when do we find out effective dates?
if there isn't one listed does that mean effective at signing? can they actually pretend they'll be able to start taking sa rifle license apps on the first day? |
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Posted: 6/3/2022 6:23:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: at the top of nyrkba posts on each one or go to the link in this op find the number of each google ny law axxxxx Thanks. These are all a done deal or still pending legislation? |
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Posted: 6/3/2022 6:35:51 AM EDT
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Once again, passing unconstitutional "laws" in the middle of the night, without any public input. Most people don't even know this happened. How "democratic".
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Posted: 6/3/2022 8:17:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Microstamping means no new handguns in a few years. License to own a semi auto rifle...that basically ends all sales of every gun suitable for self defense. It just ends sales in New York. There are many states where buying a gun is still legal and want our money. New York doesn't. |
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Posted: 6/3/2022 8:43:10 AM EDT
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The entire package passed the assembly and senate.
I believe without a single modification like rimfire exemption or grandfathering or compensation |
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Posted: 6/3/2022 8:44:12 AM EDT
[#22]
But we don’t live in other states. We live in NY.
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Posted: 6/3/2022 10:53:21 AM EDT
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Has NYSRPA filed a lawsuit yet or at least prepared to?
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Posted: 6/3/2022 11:32:01 AM EDT
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Moving in 2014 was best thing I ever did.
Waiting for judges to overturn is a stupid waste of time. Ain’t going to happen. Get the fuck out of the hellhole and stop making excuses why you won’t move. Life is short, and life is better in 43 other states in this country. |
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Posted: 6/3/2022 11:41:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Has NYSRPA filed a lawsuit yet or at least prepared to? Funny thing is this all does not phase me as much as the SAFE Act did. I hit 60 shortly and realize time is no longer on my side. Plus, with the reality of having to retire because IT is dead to people my age, leaving is now on the RADAR. |
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Posted: 6/3/2022 11:53:50 AM EDT
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I wonder who is going to pay for these new rifle licenses. Pistol permit folks are already overloaded. Takes months to get a permit, takes weeks for an amendment. Who is going to handle the new volume? Counties will need to hire lots of new staff.
I have a feeling this might go the way of ammo background checks and Russian warships. |
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Posted: 6/3/2022 2:32:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wonder who is going to pay for these new rifle licenses. Pistol permit folks are already overloaded. Takes months to get a permit, takes weeks for an amendment. Who is going to handle the new volume? Counties will need to hire lots of new staff. I have a feeling this might go the way of ammo background checks I agree with you, and I'm a huge pessimist. Either way, I also agree with the poster above who said he is less phased by this than the Safe act. I was pretty upset about that when it happened, but I learned to live with being an outlaw. Now I'm just numb to all of this. |
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Posted: 6/3/2022 2:49:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wonder who is going to pay for these new rifle licenses. Pistol permit folks are already overloaded. Takes months to get a permit, takes weeks for an amendment. Who is going to handle the new volume? Counties will need to hire lots of new staff. I have a feeling this might go the way of ammo background checks and Russian warships. So New York will require a license but say it will take two, three, four or whatever years to get it. Unlike the stupid ammo check, it does not require participation of a federal agency to do something it was not intended to do. Again, the only real hope at all is a forceful smackdown by SCOTUS in the NYSRPA v Bruen case. That would at least offer a glimmer of hope. And if New York decides to ignore any rulings, we have to wait until a friendlier DOJ is around to smack New York around. |
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Posted: 6/5/2022 8:33:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I agree with you, and I'm a huge pessimist. Either way, I also agree with the poster above who said he is less phased by this than the Safe act. I was pretty upset about that when it happened, but I learned to live with being an outlaw. Now I'm just numb to all of this. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I wonder who is going to pay for these new rifle licenses. Pistol permit folks are already overloaded. Takes months to get a permit, takes weeks for an amendment. Who is going to handle the new volume? Counties will need to hire lots of new staff. I have a feeling this might go the way of ammo background checks I agree with you, and I'm a huge pessimist. Either way, I also agree with the poster above who said he is less phased by this than the Safe act. I was pretty upset about that when it happened, but I learned to live with being an outlaw. Now I'm just numb to all of this. Also agree. |
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Posted: 6/5/2022 8:54:24 PM EDT
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Follow this link to the list with links to each bill for text, vote sheets, etc.
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