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Posted: 7/23/2021 11:22:37 PM EDT
Driving up to white fish and when we was in the flat farming areas seen some of these below. Big wooden looking lever things.
I know they are used in some sort of hay production/ storage.  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 7/23/2021 11:23:53 PM EDT
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Called a beaver slide. Used for putting hay in big piles rather than bailing it.
ETA: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beaverslide |
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Posted: 7/24/2021 12:34:30 AM EDT
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Thanks.
I’m assuming they are not used as much. Only seen one with hay under it. In ga everything is bailed and wrapped for the most part. Much is still stored dry in barns. Seems here y’all have the mega square bailers and seen a good bit stacked in the field with tarps. Also what’s a avg size cattle operation here? Seem like I’d see hundred if not thousands of acres and then only see like 40 head. |
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Posted: 7/24/2021 4:01:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks. I’m assuming they are not used as much. Only seen one with hay under it. In ga everything is bailed and wrapped for the most part. Much is still stored dry in barns. Seems here y’all have the mega square bailers and seen a good bit stacked in the field with tarps. Also what’s a avg size cattle operation here? Seem like I’d see hundred if not thousands of acres and then only see like 40 head. I have never seen one in use. Only rotting away in a field. Most farmers bale. Most cows are up high in the mountains. You move them down in the fall and closer to the ranch. |
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Posted: 7/24/2021 8:42:41 AM EDT
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They seem to still use them in the big hole where they were invented
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Posted: 7/24/2021 1:11:06 PM EDT
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I remember them being used when I was young.
Aunts,uncle's and cousins run anywhere from 200 to 800 head at a time. Really dependent on graze,water and hay. They will be reducing their herds this fall with the drought going on.  I knew people that had very small operations when I was small with 50 head or so. Made their money with grain and hay. |
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Posted: 7/24/2021 2:08:19 PM EDT
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I have mostly seen them in use around the Big Hole, Deer Lodge, and along Hwy 12 between Garrison and Avon. The Grant Kohrs Ranch https://www.nps.gov/grko/index.htm does living history demos too during the season. Great thing to see them putting up the hay using horses.
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Posted: 7/24/2021 3:06:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have never seen one in use. Only rotting away in a field. Most farmers bale. Most cows are up high in the mountains. You move them down in the fall and closer to the ranch. There's a few farms between Ovando and Helmville that still use them. |
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Posted: 7/25/2021 9:40:29 AM EDT
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Think the ones I seen where in this area.
 Attached FileI actually seen one with a American flag on it with hay stacked around it so figured that’s what it was used for. So how many head per acre do y’all run? Or is it how many head per 50 acre? |
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Posted: 7/26/2021 12:50:40 AM EDT
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State avg is 20 acres per pair per year with wide range say 12>50 acres
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Posted: 7/27/2021 9:48:36 AM EDT
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Another question I have is what’s up with all the crosses on the side of the road?
I’d imagine it’s for motor vehicle deaths but is this a state sponsored thing or does one family pay to have it put up? What’s the story on them? |
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Posted: 7/27/2021 11:45:00 AM EDT
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The crosses are for deaths, put up by the American Legion.
http://mtlegion.org/highwayfatalitymarkers.html |
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Posted: 7/27/2021 1:14:58 PM EDT
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10-4 thanks.
Also I hear y’all are in a bad drought but every where I go I see pin wheels going and residential areas watering there yards. All well water? If so y’all must have one hell of a aquifer. |
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Posted: 7/27/2021 1:22:11 PM EDT
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Depends on where, and who. Even here in the Helena Valley, one subdivision has water restrictions such as no watering, and one next to it can be fine with just every other day. One big dose of "it depends".
On my old ranch, I drilled the well deep on purpose. I also chose that property because it had quite a few natural springs, and some of them ran year round. Places around me drilled until they got water, which was shallow. I never ran out of water, and a lot of them did, or got low, during the droughts. |
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Posted: 7/27/2021 1:25:55 PM EDT
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Also the casinos in our area they are only on the Indian reservations. I’m assuming they are legal state wide here.
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Posted: 7/27/2021 1:35:12 PM EDT
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Seen something that is also not done in GA.
Passed some road construction and noticed they were using the ground up asphalt in paving the new road. The whole setup was probably.25 mile long. Thought that was impressive. In GA they haul off the old ground asphalt and put down new. Of course the asphalt plant is like 15-20 miles away. I’d imagine the closest plant to where we were at was 75-100mi. |
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Posted: 7/27/2021 2:11:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Also the casinos in our area they are only on the Indian reservations. I’m assuming they are legal state wide here. Legal statewide. Casinos on Rez's may have different (higher) pot limits, though. |
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Posted: 7/27/2021 4:58:48 PM EDT
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Wait until you watch them pave with chip seal. I have not seen that anywhere except in some western states.
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Posted: 7/27/2021 5:33:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wait until you watch them pave with chip seal. I have not seen that anywhere except in some western states. I've seen chip seal elsewhere. But they do it differently here. In other places, they chip seal a deteriorating roadway to "reseal" it from the elements, hence the name. Basically to prevent water from getting through and under the roadway. It's used to extend the life of the road surface a little bit longer. But here, they will chip seal a brand new roadway before winter. Which makes me think they do it for the increased traction the rougher surface provides in the winter. |
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Posted: 7/27/2021 8:25:59 PM EDT
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Chip seal like tar and gravel?
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Posted: 7/27/2021 8:39:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Chip seal like tar and gravel? Yep. Tar Mac Adam Another of the useful thing the Scots have given the world next to Whisky. 
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Posted: 7/27/2021 8:42:55 PM EDT
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Yeah we have that in GA not very common tho.
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Posted: 7/28/2021 9:27:24 AM EDT
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The MT Dept. Of Highways does crack sealing using toilet paper and hot asphalt oil. Always cracks me up that agency is the biggest consumer of TP in the state.
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Posted: 7/28/2021 11:32:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The MT Dept. Of Highways does crack sealing using toilet paper and hot asphalt oil. Always cracks me up that agency is the biggest consumer of TP in the state. 
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Posted: 7/28/2021 1:06:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The MT Dept. Of Highways does crack sealing using toilet paper and hot asphalt oil. Always cracks me up that agency is the biggest consumer of TP in the state. Quote HistoryQuoted: The MT Dept. Of Highways does crack sealing using toilet paper and hot asphalt oil. Always cracks me up that agency is the biggest consumer of TP in the state. Well - it's a crack right? He's serious. It's the approved blotter paper for detackification here.  I don't know if they're the biggest consumer of TP but they do use a staggering amount. |
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Posted: 7/28/2021 2:57:26 PM EDT
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Yep. Once the hot tar is applied you unroll the TP over the top of it to help keep debris from getting into it. Once the tar is cured, the tp naturally degrades away.
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Posted: 7/29/2021 4:36:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The MT Dept. Of Highways does crack sealing using toilet paper and hot asphalt oil. Always cracks me up that agency is the biggest consumer of TP in the state. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/giphyggt-462.gif They roll out on top of the oil so it doesn't stick to tires or people walking on fresh sealant. The excess disappears in a few days. |
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Posted: 8/30/2021 2:00:44 AM EDT
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 Backroads of Montana - Big Hole Valley |
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Posted: 8/30/2021 2:00:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryWow, that was a great watch. That’s for sharing! |
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Posted: 8/30/2021 4:53:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wow, that was a great watch. That’s for sharing! Quote HistoryQuoted: Wow, that was a great watch. That’s for sharing! x2 |
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Posted: 8/30/2021 5:45:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: x2 Quote HistoryQuoted: x2 Quoted: x2 When I was a kid, I hated State History class. We did watch a couple episodes of this PBS program (Backroads of Montana), and it was the only thing that really kept my attention. Over the years I have watched every episode once or twice, and learned a crazy amount.  I loved that episode that I posted above, and I also like this one ( I like them all, but skip forward to 19 mins in)  "Backroads of Montana: Episode 27 - Capitol Rock & Community Folk" (2007) Another one hidden gem is the Billings Gazette Youtube page has a series called " Vietnam Voices"... You will get hooked by the interviews by these Montana Vets, and their stories. |
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Posted: 8/30/2021 7:44:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When I was a kid, I hated State History class. We did watch a couple episodes of this PBS program (Backroads of Montana), and it was the only thing that really kept my attention. Over the years I have watched every episode once or twice, and learned a crazy amount. I loved that episode that I posted above, and I also like this one ( I like them all, but skip forward to 19 mins in)  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hk6DfpGb34YAnother one hidden gem is the Billings Gazette Youtube page has a series called " Vietnam Voices"... You will get hooked by the interviews by these Montana Vets, and their stories. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: x2 Quoted: x2 When I was a kid, I hated State History class. We did watch a couple episodes of this PBS program (Backroads of Montana), and it was the only thing that really kept my attention. Over the years I have watched every episode once or twice, and learned a crazy amount. I loved that episode that I posted above, and I also like this one ( I like them all, but skip forward to 19 mins in) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hk6DfpGb34YAnother one hidden gem is the Billings Gazette Youtube page has a series called " Vietnam Voices"... You will get hooked by the interviews by these Montana Vets, and their stories. I will have to look into those series. Thanks |
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Posted: 8/30/2021 11:59:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I will have to look into those series. Thanks Karen Wales still owns the book store ( it has a great selection of old Gun Smith books), and her husband/Son do some Gun Smithing. |
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Posted: 8/31/2021 4:51:18 PM EDT
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Someone I follow on IG just posted a video of a operation in use today (modern times). It was pretty cool.
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Posted: 9/3/2021 5:47:59 PM EDT
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I’ve heard them called “overshots”…but from some farm boy from the hi line.
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Posted: 9/12/2021 10:15:33 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/13/2021 10:58:16 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/17/2021 12:38:00 PM EDT
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