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Posted: 4/12/2022 6:08:22 AM EDT
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There is no "safe place."
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Posted: 4/12/2022 10:30:11 AM EDT
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I don't think thats a thing anymore. Good luck in your quest I'm interested to see if anything exists. FEMA has a fairly recent unique downloadable doc that explores a 10/100 kiloton event with fallout and blast considerations, cause you are on your own. .gov does Hurricane shelters in FL.
https://www.fema.gov/sites/default/files/documents/fema_planning-guidance-response-nuclear-detonation.pdf link probably isn't hot just cut and paste it maybe. |
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Posted: 4/12/2022 11:32:44 AM EDT
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It's now abandoned, but he largest privately owned underground atomic bomb shelter in the US is/was under an orange grove in Mount Dora.
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Posted: 4/12/2022 4:54:43 PM EDT
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Tbh in the extremely unlikely event of a nuclear exchange, would you even want to live through that?
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Posted: 4/12/2022 5:15:59 PM EDT
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They had fallout shelters when I was a kid.
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Posted: 4/12/2022 5:25:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Tbh in the extremely unlikely event of a nuclear exchange, would you even want to live through that? I mean, do I have to shave my head and wear chaps? |
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Posted: 4/12/2022 5:58:55 PM EDT
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How many of you experienced this psychological program?
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Posted: 4/12/2022 6:59:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How many of you experienced this psychological program? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/766/atyomicbombdrill-2346961.jpg I hated doing that and knew, even as a kid, it was a waste of time. |
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Posted: 4/12/2022 9:22:40 PM EDT
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Unless your in a direct blast zone. Most buildings built well will hold up. My gov complex is all Cat 5 rated. The computer data center buildings around are too. Most schools are reinforced enough with thick inner concrete walls.
Some malls have well built basements. If you can get to them & in them would be the problem. |
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Posted: 4/12/2022 9:39:46 PM EDT
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I would rather die quickly than die of radiation.
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Posted: 4/13/2022 12:12:39 PM EDT
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Hiroshima......current population 1.4 million 15 kiloton bomb
Nagasaki......current population 450K 21 kiloton bomb If the soviet strategic nuclear forces perform as well as their conventional military forces I'm not sure we have much to worry about. China owns our debt they wouldn't make a strategic play. In a limited exchange or isolated incident radiation levels drop extremely fast outside the blast zone, 24-48 hours (80-90% drop), then 1-2 weeks(95-99% drop), if you didn't get burned by the flash you will probably survive the event. If you don't breath it, eat it, wallow in it and hide from it behind or under dirt, concrete or stacked up books, for a relatively short period of time you will survive the fallout if you weren't able to evacuate. The chaos that follows with the possible lost of Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, Tik Tock and ARFCOM may be too much for many of us. |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 10:44:32 AM EDT
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Actually, duck-and-cover would have saved millions in a full scale nuclear exchange.
If you are in the radius of the actual blast, it does nothing. But for all the people on the outskirts? If you cover when you see the flash then you are protected from the glass of the windows blowing in when the blast front reaches you. |
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Posted: 4/17/2022 5:27:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's now abandoned, but he largest privately owned underground atomic bomb shelter in the US is/was under an orange grove in Mount Dora. That is interesting because I have heard Pat Frank used Mount Dora as the model for Fort Repose in his book Alas, Babylon. |
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Posted: 4/17/2022 5:31:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How many of you experienced this psychological program? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/766/atyomicbombdrill-2346961.jpg "Drop" was our code word when I was in elementary school in SoCal. The teacher would yell "drop" and chaos would ensue. We moved out of the LA School District when I was in fifth grade and we did not do this in the new school district, especially in high school. Girls were not allowed to wear jeans or pants at that time, only skirts or dresses. We were wearing short mini skirts, so I guess they did not want all those teen asses hanging out. |
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Posted: 4/17/2022 7:52:40 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/18/2022 8:10:33 AM EDT
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I also read Alas Babylon by Pat Frank. Excellent book.
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Posted: 4/18/2022 9:59:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That is interesting because I have heard Pat Frank used Mount Dora as the model for Fort Repose in his book Alas, Babylon. One of my childhood favorites, and required reading as I recall. Interesting story about the shelter, I’ve lived in central Florida all my life , 60 years, and never heard of it. There is a house between Oakland and Cleremont visible from highway 50 that is underground, two small entry ways standing in the grass. Bell telephone (Att) had a mole hill out on Steer Lake road that was some sort of protected site. Not much left anymore, folks have learned to live with the threat without obsessing over it. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 2:24:43 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/18/2022 5:02:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's now abandoned, but he largest privately owned underground atomic bomb shelter in the US is/was under an orange grove in Mount Dora. I'll spit the cost with you to buy it we can sell the oranges to Tropicana in lake wales to pay for it call dibs on Master bedroom 
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Posted: 4/18/2022 5:24:36 PM EDT
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Quote History10k of ammo p'ff amateur. Cool story bro thanks. I'd like to own that and build it back. Was on lake thonotosassa out towards Plant City area years ago. Wife and I stopped on shore to look at property which had a house burnt down on it. Wondered around to front of house area. They had a frigging concrete bunker buried in dirt like the ammo storage bunker we used in the army. Concrete Walls were at least 16 inches thick with about 20 ft of dirt covering it. Had 4 Hugh separate rooms and 3 Hugh steel doors, It was Hugh and had a pistol range out front of it. You could not see it from the lake or road, it sit way back off of road with foliage and trees between the road and complex. You'd never suspect it was there unless you went on property. It had grass growing on side facing in that direction of McDill on lake side. This was in the early 90s. I wish I'd bought that place. USF bought it from what I heard. But that place was cool as hell. I think of it often and wonder if they kept bunker or torn it down. They'd had to use a wreaking ball to demolish it because no dozer was knocking that thing down. Think I'll look at Google earth and see if I can find it |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 5:31:32 PM EDT
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Man just looked at lake thonotosassa on Google earth. Could not see anything but stupid Mac mansions with tennis courts Olympic size pools and gates now. It's sad what has happened to florida that use to be a very rural area and great fishing.
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Posted: 4/18/2022 11:07:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 10k of ammo p'ff amateur. Cool story bro thanks. I'd like to own that and build it back. Was on lake thonotosassa out towards Plant City area years ago. Wife and I stopped on shore to look at property which had a house burnt down on it. Wondered around to front of house area. They had a frigging concrete bunker buried in dirt like the ammo storage bunker we used in the army. Concrete Walls were at least 16 inches thick with about 20 ft of dirt covering it. Had 4 Hugh separate rooms and 3 Hugh steel doors, It was Hugh and had a pistol range out front of it. You could not see it from the lake or road, it sit way back off of road with foliage and trees between the road and complex. You'd never suspect it was there unless you went on property. It had grass growing on side facing in that direction of McDill on lake side. This was in the early 90s. I wish I'd bought that place. USF bought it from what I heard. But that place was cool as hell. I think of it often and wonder if they kept bunker or torn it down. They'd had to use a wreaking ball to demolish it because no dozer was knocking that thing down. Think I'll look at Google earth and see if I can find it I guess I'm chopped liver? I shared something a few posts up. 
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Posted: 4/20/2022 2:38:00 PM EDT
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Lol sorry you can get in too
 your post was a great read BTW. Pretty cool story
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Posted: 4/20/2022 3:52:27 PM EDT
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The more I consider impending nuclear doom (or other SHTF situations) the more I think I'd like to learn to sail and get a little yacht I could possibly disappear to for 3-6 months.
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Posted: 4/23/2022 3:00:00 PM EDT
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There are a few here and there..... but you're going to need an HSPD-12 PIV card with the proper FERO credentials to get past the gate.
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Posted: 4/23/2022 3:45:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The more I consider impending nuclear doom (or other SHTF situations) the more I think I'd like to learn to sail and get a little yacht I could possibly disappear to for 3-6 months.  |
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Posted: 4/23/2022 5:34:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's now abandoned, but he largest privately owned underground atomic bomb shelter in the US is/was under an orange grove in Mount Dora. Mount Dora catacombs…apparently still here…I was accused of building on top of them…turned out to be erroneous info |
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Posted: 4/24/2022 2:32:41 PM EDT
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OP...
You want a list of nuclear fallout shelters in florida? Here's the closest thing you are likely to ever find that's widespread: https://long-lines.com/map This is a small one with a shorter tower than they usually have: 
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Posted: 4/24/2022 2:56:45 PM EDT
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