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Sorry I didn’t post anything with it. The only thing I received was this email. I checked their website and there was nothing about it. I thought all the members with them got the same email.
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Wow, that's not far from me. I just may go to that.
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Sorry I didn’t post anything with it. The only thing I received was this email. I checked their website and there was nothing about it. I thought all the members with them got the same email. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/235684/333440FE-8B1B-48A2-970F-8C1361E6AFF3_png-1255579.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/235684/C91749D2-15D5-4F71-8F31-7EB894A1BB67_png-1255580.JPG View Quote |
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Goddammit. I've been a member for 2+ years, I only get half their emails. Didn't get this one. WTF... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Sorry I didn't post anything with it. The only thing I received was this email. I checked their website and there was nothing about it. I thought all the members with them got the same email. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/235684/333440FE-8B1B-48A2-970F-8C1361E6AFF3_png-1255579.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/235684/C91749D2-15D5-4F71-8F31-7EB894A1BB67_png-1255580.JPG |
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Again.... known issue that I've brought up with them. They claim they are going to fix it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Sorry I didn't post anything with it. The only thing I received was this email. I checked their website and there was nothing about it. I thought all the members with them got the same email. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/235684/333440FE-8B1B-48A2-970F-8C1361E6AFF3_png-1255579.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/235684/C91749D2-15D5-4F71-8F31-7EB894A1BB67_png-1255580.JPG I’ve given these guys money in the past and will admit I stopped because of ZERO comms from them. It felt like I was sending money into a black hole. Mind you, I don’t think any of us want the deluge of junk mail like the NRA bombards us with but with Florida Carry I barely got confirmation that my dues were received and then got zero subsequent comms regarding issues, their activities, etc. If the current Florida Carry is all we are ever going to have in this state, I doubt we will ever get the average gun owner who doesn’t even read ARFCOM to become engaged in the 2A fight. |
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Quoted: Failures on even basic shit like this aren’t a good look for this “organization”. I’m not trying to bash here and realize we badly need a Florida advocacy group, but how hard is it to send mass emails to a membership list? Even if Florida Carry is as basic as it comes it’s a fucking cut-and-paste from an Excel spreadsheet column that you dump into the “Bcc:” field of an email. I’ve given these guys money in the past and will admit I stopped because of ZERO comms from them. It felt like I was sending money into a black hole. Mind you, I don’t think any of us want the deluge of junk mail like the NRA bombards us with but with Florida Carry I barely got confirmation that my dues were received and then got zero subsequent comms regarding issues, their activities, etc. If the current Florida Carry is all we are ever going to have in this state, I doubt we will ever get the average gun owner who doesn’t even read ARFCOM to become engaged in the 2A fight. View Quote I agree... I'd not feel good about sending $$$ to an organization and then rarely ever hearing from them or seeing activity on their end. Maybe Florida Carry can fix this ASAP. |
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Now is a GREAT time for such an organization to grow... but the organization must be able to communicate, and communicate often. I agree... I'd not feel good about sending $$$ to an organization and then rarely ever hearing from them or seeing activity on their end. Maybe Florida Carry can fix this ASAP. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: Failures on even basic shit like this aren’t a good look for this “organization”. I’m not trying to bash here and realize we badly need a Florida advocacy group, but how hard is it to send mass emails to a membership list? Even if Florida Carry is as basic as it comes it’s a fucking cut-and-paste from an Excel spreadsheet column that you dump into the “Bcc:” field of an email. I’ve given these guys money in the past and will admit I stopped because of ZERO comms from them. It felt like I was sending money into a black hole. Mind you, I don’t think any of us want the deluge of junk mail like the NRA bombards us with but with Florida Carry I barely got confirmation that my dues were received and then got zero subsequent comms regarding issues, their activities, etc. If the current Florida Carry is all we are ever going to have in this state, I doubt we will ever get the average gun owner who doesn’t even read ARFCOM to become engaged in the 2A fight. I agree... I'd not feel good about sending $$$ to an organization and then rarely ever hearing from them or seeing activity on their end. Maybe Florida Carry can fix this ASAP. |
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@RINO_Hunter View Quote I have to be honest and say that while I'm all in for something like the Battle Buddies group, I don't have much interest in the lobbying side of things. Without writing a manifesto, I simply believe that the limited free (and unpaid) time available isn't spent well doing it. The many millions of immigrants and illegal aliens flooding our country vote 2:1 for collectivists who would never allow guns in the hands of citizens. Our legal loss of firearms rights is only a matter of time, no matter how many of us lobby. The more we lobby, the longer the slide down is held off, but at a certain point time is better spent preparing for subsequent, higher stakes, events. I was in Virginia. The Battle Buddies are safe. The lobbyists are irrelevant. |
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I live in Miami and Gainesville. I would be interested in a face to face in Florida to discuss the issue of becoming organized to meet the very real coming threats to the Second Amendment.
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Thanks. I have to be honest and say that while I'm all in for something like the Battle Buddies group, I don't have much interest in the lobbying side of things. Without writing a manifesto, I simply believe that the limited free (and unpaid) time available isn't spent well doing it. The many millions of immigrants and illegal aliens flooding our country vote 2:1 for collectivists who would never allow guns in the hands of citizens. Our legal loss of firearms rights is only a matter of time, no matter how many of us lobby. The more we lobby, the longer the slide down is held off, but at a certain point time is better spent preparing for subsequent, higher stakes, events. I was in Virginia. The Battle Buddies are safe. The lobbyists are irrelevant. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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RINO_Hunter I have to be honest and say that while I'm all in for something like the Battle Buddies group, I don't have much interest in the lobbying side of things. Without writing a manifesto, I simply believe that the limited free (and unpaid) time available isn't spent well doing it. The many millions of immigrants and illegal aliens flooding our country vote 2:1 for collectivists who would never allow guns in the hands of citizens. Our legal loss of firearms rights is only a matter of time, no matter how many of us lobby. The more we lobby, the longer the slide down is held off, but at a certain point time is better spent preparing for subsequent, higher stakes, events. I was in Virginia. The Battle Buddies are safe. The lobbyists are irrelevant. This past lobbying day, the same message was repeatedly said by lawmakers. "We only see Moms Demand Action, we don't see gu owners. So we don't fear gun owners." This was stated by Republicans over and over from the House and Senate. The BB system is great. But we have no open carry in FL. So if we're going to fight to expand our rights. We need to be on multiple fronts. That means being at the Capitol too. That means speaking at Committee Meetings too. |
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@RINO_Hunter This past lobbying day, the same message was repeatedly said by lawmakers. "We only see Moms Demand Action, we don't see gu owners. So we don't fear gun owners." This was stated by Republicans over and over from the House and Senate. The BB system is great. But we have no open carry in FL. So if we're going to fight to expand our rights. We need to be on multiple fronts. That means being at the Capitol too. That means speaking at Committee Meetings too. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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RINO_Hunter I have to be honest and say that while I'm all in for something like the Battle Buddies group, I don't have much interest in the lobbying side of things. Without writing a manifesto, I simply believe that the limited free (and unpaid) time available isn't spent well doing it. The many millions of immigrants and illegal aliens flooding our country vote 2:1 for collectivists who would never allow guns in the hands of citizens. Our legal loss of firearms rights is only a matter of time, no matter how many of us lobby. The more we lobby, the longer the slide down is held off, but at a certain point time is better spent preparing for subsequent, higher stakes, events. I was in Virginia. The Battle Buddies are safe. The lobbyists are irrelevant. This past lobbying day, the same message was repeatedly said by lawmakers. "We only see Moms Demand Action, we don't see gu owners. So we don't fear gun owners." This was stated by Republicans over and over from the House and Senate. The BB system is great. But we have no open carry in FL. So if we're going to fight to expand our rights. We need to be on multiple fronts. That means being at the Capitol too. That means speaking at Committee Meetings too. Sorry, but I see that as a sociopathic statement and insulting to our intelligence. Maybe from a communist democrat would it make sense, but not from a so-called republican. They are all smart enough to count the difference between the couple hundred or thousand angry cat ladies (who they “fear”) and the million+ CCW holders comfortable with killing other humans to defend their birthright; not to mention the millions of gun owners who don’t have a CCW. Idontbelievethem.jpg In my humble opinion, after the passing of “Red Flag” laws, the first three boxes become unreliable. The communists don’t care about our soapbox. The communists will win at the ballot box with immigration. The communists destroyed the firearms-rights jury box with ERPOs. They’re the ones pushing us into battle buddy groups. |
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So it's our fault that elected politicians violate the oath of office they voluntarily took? Because we don't meet with them to remind them not to break it? When was the last time of one us was hired for a job and suddenly did the opposite as soon as we got it? Sorry, but I see that as a sociopathic statement and insulting to our intelligence. Maybe from a communist democrat would it make sense, but not from a so-called republican. They are all smart enough to count the difference between the couple hundred or thousand angry cat ladies (who they "fear") and the million+ CCW holders comfortable with killing other humans to defend their birthright; not to mention the millions of gun owners who don't have a CCW. Idontbelievethem.jpg In my humble opinion, after the passing of "Red Flag" laws, the first three boxes become unreliable. The communists don't care about our soapbox. The communists will win at the ballot box with immigration. The communists destroyed the firearms-rights jury box with ERPOs. They're the ones pushing us into battle buddy groups. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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RINO_Hunter I have to be honest and say that while I'm all in for something like the Battle Buddies group, I don't have much interest in the lobbying side of things. Without writing a manifesto, I simply believe that the limited free (and unpaid) time available isn't spent well doing it. The many millions of immigrants and illegal aliens flooding our country vote 2:1 for collectivists who would never allow guns in the hands of citizens. Our legal loss of firearms rights is only a matter of time, no matter how many of us lobby. The more we lobby, the longer the slide down is held off, but at a certain point time is better spent preparing for subsequent, higher stakes, events. I was in Virginia. The Battle Buddies are safe. The lobbyists are irrelevant. This past lobbying day, the same message was repeatedly said by lawmakers. "We only see Moms Demand Action, we don't see gu owners. So we don't fear gun owners." This was stated by Republicans over and over from the House and Senate. The BB system is great. But we have no open carry in FL. So if we're going to fight to expand our rights. We need to be on multiple fronts. That means being at the Capitol too. That means speaking at Committee Meetings too. Sorry, but I see that as a sociopathic statement and insulting to our intelligence. Maybe from a communist democrat would it make sense, but not from a so-called republican. They are all smart enough to count the difference between the couple hundred or thousand angry cat ladies (who they "fear") and the million+ CCW holders comfortable with killing other humans to defend their birthright; not to mention the millions of gun owners who don't have a CCW. Idontbelievethem.jpg In my humble opinion, after the passing of "Red Flag" laws, the first three boxes become unreliable. The communists don't care about our soapbox. The communists will win at the ballot box with immigration. The communists destroyed the firearms-rights jury box with ERPOs. They're the ones pushing us into battle buddy groups. Politics is a two way street. Public Apathy and Voter Apathy is a real thing. Remember, we're the 1% of the gun owning public. The other 99% send the message of "I support/like guns but..." and that's the honest truth. Public Apathy promotes that we're content with needing permits for CCW and don't want permitted Open Carry or even Constitutional Carry. Public Apathy promotes that we support background checks, under 21 purchase bans, red flag laws, and waiting periods. Public Apathy tells them that we're fine with the possibility of UBC. We elect them into office. Then we don't tell them anything, monitor them, scold them, guide them, etc.... we do get the government we deserve. As an apathetic public, we're like a PD hiring a 19 year old and not putting him through FTO and Probation. We're just giving him the badge and the gun and telling him "go do cop stuff". Lawmakers are elected into office and then they don't see anyone or hear anything from us. That's why they don't fear us. Moms Demand Action get the attention because they are an elephant walk. They are showing lawmakers that they can organize, lobby, protest, etc... they are showing them that they have the dedication and organizational skills to do that, they can also do things at the voting booth. Again, Battle Buddies is part of what we need to do. If we want to effect positive change in Florida. We need to fight this on multiple fronts. That does mean lobby days at the Capitol. That means a large group of us going office to office meeting with lawmakers for a day or a week. That means having us take over the seating and overflowing during Committee Meetings. That also means public events like FL Carry Open Fishing Days, Marches, Rallies, Protests. Etc.... Lawmakers like the rest of society aren't us. They aren't the 1% of gun owners. They don't know the minutiae and intricacies of guns. They don't know the pulse of Constitutional Matters regarding gun rights. Because they're like the other 99%. A J-Frame in the sock drawer, a CCW, and a 12ga is all they have, all they know, and they rarely carry, if they do carry. Edit to add. FL still is a GOP Supermajority. We need to put the pressure on them for that reason. They claim to be pro gun. Well, pro gu to them is what I said because they think the general public is that. We have to be loud enough to make them think we're the general public. |
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Again.... known issue that I've brought up with them. They claim they are going to fix it. View Quote Just an update that this was discussed at the end of the event in Dunnellon today. One of the speakers today (Craig DeLuz) owns a media group that will be redesigning the website for Florida Carry. He said it will be more interactive and updated with current information. I spoke to him after the event and he said he was hoping that everything will be done in a month or two. |
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Just an update that this was discussed at the end of the event in Dunnellon today. One of the speakers today (Craig DeLuz) owns a media group that will be redesigning the website for Florida Carry. He said it will be more interactive and updated with current information. I spoke to him after the event and he said he was hoping that everything will be done in a month or two. View Quote Also, in for an HTF meetup. This thread, the ABB thing on the 22nd, and the event yesterday put it over the edge to sign up and get involved. |
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I just recently moved to the liberal cesspool known as Broward county and I'm willing to meet up and get active.
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In. Let me know when and where.
I am in Virginia for the present but will be moving to Naples when I retire. Before you boo & hiss, I am a Florida native. This is a homecoming for me I have been among the rank & file in the fight for Virginia. My children are native Virginians. I don't know what the future is for Virginia but what I can say is that it would have been MUCH easier if we had just been able to convince more than HALF of Virginia's law-abiding gun owners to VOTE last November. So much easier. Voting is critical. I work gun shows for the VCDL and I am amazed by the numbers of gun buyers who can't be bothered to be gun VOTERS. I hear it all; ONE vote won't make a difference. The Elections are rigged! The BIG URBAN AREAS control the State. It's the immigrants, it's the Federal workforce, somebody touched me in a bad way! This all may true to one extent or another but right now, there are a couple million Virginians who would love the chance to go back to Election Day 2019 for a "do-over". Honestly, WE WOULD WIN if the voting were today People woke-up after it was too late. |
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I am in for Miami and I can host the meeting upto 45 people. Just need to schedule it.
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Let me know what you decide, Lou, you should still have my contact info.
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