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Well crap.... I heard him briefly but didn't hear the whole press conference. Sounded like he was pretty irritated with the system we had in place.
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Rick Scott screwed us all and we put him in the Senate for it. Second verse, same as the first...
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[#4]
I understand making unemployment hard to obtain.
However, in this case the government shut the economy down in a panic; now they are in a world of shit, and should be helping the people they screwed. Ron got handed a really bad situation. He better come up with something fast or I agree with OP. All I see around me is sheep scared shitless, and waiting for the government to save them. Sad, very sad!! |
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As coronavirus batters the economy, Florida leaders may have to slash budget
TALLAHASSEE The Republican-controlled Florida Legislature faces tough choices in balancing the $93 billion state budget decimated by the coronavirus crisis, decisions that could wipe out or drastically reduce teacher raises, road work, affordable housing projects and more. Lawmakers last month passed the spending plan based on revenue projections made in January, well before the coronavirus brought much of the economy to a halt. When state economists make new projections, likely no sooner than sometime in May, the Legislature will know how big of a hole they have to fill. If it is large enough, it could wipe out or significantly reduce $500 million in teacher pay raises, nearly $400 million in state worker pay raises, the boost in Medicaid reimbursement rates for nursing homes and other pieces of a budget that won so much bipartisan support the spending plan passed unanimously. Then the options left to lawmakers are decisions that Republican leaders don't typically want to make: accept federal bailout money to fill a large budget hole; borrow money in much larger amounts than in recent years; make drastic cuts to a range of programs; or raise taxes and fees long considered unacceptable by Republican leaders. Gov. Ron DeSantis and Senate President Bill Galvano, however, have pointed to Florida's $4 billion in reserves, the strong economy before the pandemic and the expected federal funding from the CARES Act as reasons to be hopeful the hit to state coffers won't be catastrophic. DeSantis has even suggested the Legislature might not even have to come back the Capitol to rewrite the budget. He could sign the budget while vetoing enough projects to give a cushion that, combined with CARES Act funds, could cover any sharp drop in revenues. "We've got to see what the economic prognosis looks like," Desantis said last week. "The numbers I've received are not anything that would cause us to have to redo the current fiscal year budget." "And even next year, given the amount of money we've received, a lot of people feel that could be doable," he added. But for now, the Legislature hasn't formally sent the budget to his desk, passed during the regular session that ended in March, and DeSantis has said he's solely focused on the pandemic response. The early indications, though, suggest the downturn could be too steep, and lawmakers will need to redraft a spending plan based on more realistic revenue projections. More than 26 million people filed for unemployment since mid-March, wiping out 10 years' worth of job gains. Retail sales for March fell 8.7 percent compared with February, according to a U.S. Census Bureau report. Industrial production fell 5.4 percent, the largest monthly drop since 1946. The Fitch Ratings agency predicted a "deep global recession" for this year on April 2. For a state as reliant as Florida is on tourism, it points to a prolonged recovery. Florida gets 20 percent of its sales tax revenues from tourists, and 79 percent of its $33 billion general revenue fund. The shock could ripple out beyond the hospitality sector, though, affecting parts of the budget not directly tied to sales taxes. Lawmakers opted not to raid the affordable housing trust fund this year, leaving $370 million in it, but if prospective homebuyers put off making that large purchase, it could put a dent in the real estate transaction taxes that flow into that trust fund. Gasoline prices have plummeted as residents have been encouraged to stay home except for essential trips. That equals fewer gas taxes to pay for road work. Galvano sent a memo to senators April 16 laying out how the CARES Act would benefit Florida, while acknowledging the abysmal economic news. Hospitals around the country will receive $30 billion; K-12 school districts will receive $770 million in grants; universities will be eligible for $792 million in grants. "We're trying to find 127 million tourists to have the confidence to come back and patronize our state," Patronis said during a task force meeting aimed at reopening the state. "This is a one-of-a-kind enemy we've never seen before." He's pointed to dire economic forecasts, such as a "stress test" from Moody's Analytics projecting Florida could face a $6.4 billion shortfall, combined with a $1.74 billion increase in Medicaid expenses, meaning lawmakers would be looking for $8.14 billion, or nearly 24 percent of its general revenue. Tax increases, however, would be tricky to pass. House Speaker Jose Oliva has staunchly opposed them and DeSantis made it a campaign pledge to veto any tax increase. Patronis has been urging state economists to convene to issue new revenue forecasts to account for the coronavirus. But Amy Baker, the state's chief economist, says they won't be able to make projections about revenues or the economy with any amount of confidence until mid-May at the earliest. New numbers on March revenues, April unemployment figures and updated global and national economic forecasts from rating agencies won't be released until then, giving leaders little time to react to the budget hole for the fiscal budget year that begins July 1. There will also be more decisions made in that time about when and how to reopen, which could give economists more clues as to how quickly the state will rebound. For his part, DeSantis said he'll likely have to wield a hefty veto pen, even on programs he believes in, to have a big enough cushion to account for the economic downturn. Some projects could get funding the following year, he suggested. View Quote Florida Chief Financial Officer Jimmy Patronis: "We're trying to find 127 million tourists to have the confidence to come back and patronize our state.'' View Quote FLORIDA GOP LAWMAKER SAYS 'TIME IS NOW' TO REOPEN STATE AS CORONAVIRUS CASES NEAR 30,000 LYDIA SMITH APRIL 24, 2020 Republican Florida state Representative Anthony Sabatini wrote an essay arguing his state should "open all business establishments" and end the current lockdown. The op-ed, titled "The time to open is now," was published on Thursday by several Florida-based news outlets. Florida experienced a jump in positive coronavirus cases on Thursday, adding more than 1,000 new cases over a period of 24 hours and bringing the state's death toll to 987, according to the latest numbers from the Florida Department of Health. At least 29,648 people have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus, which causes the COVID-19 disease. Sabatini wrote that Florida had "passed the peak of COVID's damage" earlier this month. "Beginning this weekend, the Governors of Georgia and South Carolinabased on the most recent scientific dataare re-opening the economies of their states. Florida should safely follow our neighbor's lead and do the same," he wrote. "Like Georgia and South Carolina, Florida has passed the peak of COVID's damage. According to models from The Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation, Florida saw its peak in deaths on April 2 and its peak hospital resource usage on April 14. "Like Georgia and South Carolina, we are on the downward trajectory of the fight against COVID. And it is time to respond to these facts appropriately." Sabatini added: "Instead of sitting around for an indefinite period awaiting total COVID eliminationwhile our economy lays in shambleswe should begin the process of re-opening as soon as possible. The curve of the virus has been flattened and now it is time to do what's right." He argued Florida should open all business establishments including stores and restaurants and that people should be trusted to exercise personal responsibility. "Business owners should follow CDC guidelines. Those who are elderly and those with pre-existing medical issues should remain at home," he wrote. "But the rest of us should return to work. Each day Florida remains closed is another day that irreparable harm is caused to the working people of our state; small family-owned businesses lost forever. "Each hour we remain shutdown furthers the massive blow to our state economynot to mention the psychological damage that self-isolation has wrought." Newsweek has contacted Sabatini for additional comment. Florida's stay-at-home order began on April 3 and will remain in place until April 30. Last week, however, Governor Ron DeSantis told local leaders in municipalities across Florida to reopen beaches as long as social distancing guidelines are followed. The Republican is currently working with the "Re-Open Florida" task force on a plan to reopen Florida's economy amid the coronavirus pandemic. Florida Democrats said Monday that the state's economy should not reopen until more coronavirus testing is available. "We have not won the day and cannot return to normal until testing has been expanded enormously," said state Senator Lori Berman, vice-chair of the Committee on Health Policy, the Herald-Tribune reported. U.S. Rep. Donna Shalala, a Miami Democrat, added that "testing, testing, testing" is the only way the lockdown could be lifted. According to the stay at home order, residents should only leave their homes to "obtain or provide essential services or conduct essential activities." When leaving their homes, Florida residents should practice social distancing guidelines, which include remaining at least six feet away from people outside of your household. View Quote Does Thursday's coronavirus spike reset the clock on Gov. DeSantis' plan to reopen the economy? JANELLE IRWIN TAYLOR APRIL 24, 2020 After five days of declining coronavirus cases, Florida spiked again Thursday, raising questions about Gov. Ron DeSantis' goal of partially reopening Florida's economy May 1. The Florida Department of Health reported 1,261 new cases Thursday, the highest number of new cases reported in a single day in more than two weeks. Under President Donald Trump's Opening Up America Again plan, on which DeSantis is modeling his own strategies, phase one is triggered only when a state has seen declining numbers for 14 days. Florida had been more than on track to meet that criteria before Thursday, posting fewer than 1,000 new cases per day for five days straight. April 16 and 17th saw 1,204 and 1,096 new cases, respectively, after a four-day spread with fewer than 1,000 cases, including April 14 when just 597 cases were reported. All three of those spikes corresponded to a correlated increase in testing. That distinction, though, could be moot. Because testing is limited, in almost all circumstances, only those showing symptoms or who have had direct contact with someone who has already tested positive receive tests, meaning these weren't arbitrary tests. There would have had to have been a corresponding spike in individuals in either of those two scenarios. That begs the question: Should the Governor reset the 14-day clock on reopening the state's economy? The answer may very well come later. DeSantis' office is expected to receive a rough draft of recommendations from his Re-Open Florida Task Force Friday, and the group is expected to approve those recommendations early next week. That gives at least the weekend to observe daily trends. Should Thursday's spike be an anamaly, he may make the decision to move forward despite the spike. However, if new cases show a similar trend Friday and over the weekend, DeSantis could face calls to hit the pause button and delay his reopening strategy. Friday's numbers are already set up to potentially match Thursday with 526 new cases reported overnight. Daily reports have trended with similar amounts in the morning and evening reports. Still, even if the caseload doubled from the morning, Friday's numbers would still be lower than Thursdays, and less than the most recent spikes before that on April 16th and 17th. DeSantis also has some other data to make the case for not restarting the clock. The Thursday spike is not the peak. That happened on April 3 when just over 1,300 new cases were reported. Even if case numbers hold around 1,200 over the weekend, DeSantis could argue it still represented a downward trend from the peak. There's some other data to watch, too. One week ago, Jacksonville opened its beaches on a provisional and limited basis, but images of the first evening beaches were open showed crowds, in many cases, not following social distancing guidelines requiring six-feet of separation. If Jacksonville begins seeing spikes in new cases, which have been declining for more than a week, that too could play into the reopening narrative. So far, the city has not seen a new spike in cases, but the virus incubation period is two weeks and test results take days to come back, meaning a potential spike is likely too soon to emerge in reports. Similar situations are true in other areas across the state as local governments begin allowing beach access on a limited basis. View Quote State agrees to some 'retroactive eligibility' for unemployment benefits - The move is a partial victory for Democrats. A.G. GANCARSKI APRIL 24, 2020 The many Floridians who lost their jobs in recent weeks, then struggled with the unemployment claims process, will get a lifeline. DMS Secretary Jonathan Satter said the state "..will be affecting a retroactive period to March 9th so it would be the day of their job loss or March 9th" that jobless Floridians begin receiving back benefits, according to Action News Jax. Satter, who took over managing the state's struggling unemployment system from Department of Economic Opportunity head Ken Lawson, has been charged with rescuing the system and the Governor's credibility on the subject of unemployment. Democrats had called for "retroactive eligibility" for weeks, but to no avail until this week. In early April, the Democratic caucus wrote Gov. Ron DeSantis, pushing for retroactive eligibility to the date that a given worker's job was terminated. "Recognizing that the application system was not only out of service for much of the start of this pandemic, but continues to undergo repair, we ask for immediate action to help expedite Floridians' access to the unemployment benefits they have earned," read the caucus letter. Democrats had asked for a retroactive date of Mar. 1. They also requested unemployments benefit be extended to independent contractors, the class of workers that receives 1099s rather than W-2s, which are not eligible for benefit under Florida law. While there is no provision for gig workers, and Democrats did not get the extra eight days sought, the move likely can be framed as a partial victory. There is still room to move, however. Benefits are capped at 12 weeks with a top payout of $275 weekly, making it among the nation's most meager benefit. The Governor has expressed confidence that the $600 federal stipend will be enough to make up for any perceived coverage deficiency. All told, 505,000 Floridians filed for unemployment last week, with 1.16 million having successfully filed since the beginning of the coronavirus crisis, out of a 10.335 million person workforce. View Quote |
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The recipient class always votes dhimmicrat. This not much of an issue as will be the hundreds of thousands of Puerto Ricans living here now.
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I don't know about the recipient class, but my son was laid off when the governor ordered restaurants and bars closed. He applied for unemployment within a day, and has heard nothing. His company hasn't received any "stimulus" money and can't afford to pay him so he's on his own. Most days you can't check on your status because the site is down. The government started this shit, and has left most high and dry to fend for themselves.
I personally know doctors and dentists who's practices are zero. This business of economic destruction is just getting started. Wait for the secondary and following levels of layoffs that are coming. I have little confidence the State of Florida or the Federal Government can "save" us now. The Florida State budget especially will get hammered. Who will make up the budget shortfalls The tax payers of course!!! |
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My job ultimately traces back to FDOT for the most part, and I've made a few grim jokes about how I won't have to worry about unemployment until we're all living in Mad Max world anyway. I'm not convinced we'll make it all the way there but sure seems like the powers that be are trying their best
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Quoted: The recipient class always votes dhimmicrat. This not much of an issue as will be the hundreds of thousands of Puerto Ricans living here now. View Quote |
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their system is a decades old piece of underpowed shit, they should be embarrassed. Typical govt project unlimited money to piss away on shit they don't need but can't even get a web site to work . One of my pet peeves.
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Quoted: their system is a decades old piece of underpowed shit, they should be embarrassed. Typical govt project unlimited money to piss away on shit they don't need but can't even get a web site to work . One of my pet peeves. View Quote |
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Quoted: You get what you pay for. The Republican Party of Florida has been campaigning on slashing government budgets left and right. Additionally, the government (and voter) wants the most educated hard working folks, but wants to pay them Chinese Labor Prices. This is the end result. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: their system is a decades old piece of underpowed shit, they should be embarrassed. Typical govt project unlimited money to piss away on shit they don't need but can't even get a web site to work . One of my pet peeves. Preach it brother. Dog and pony show out front for the public and a sweat shop with 3rd world pay in the back. I worked for 2 S.O.’s and the state of Florida, 20+ years. Retired about 6 years ago and make more money now with a couple of small LLC’s and a 15 hour/week fun job. Sad indeed. |
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Under then Gov. Rick Scott's two terms, the GOP gutted the unemployment system. Republicans were cheering the cuts when the good times were happening and the economy was rocking. But they didn't build a rainy day fund for possible economic downturns. Now as a US Senator, Rick Scott is further rubbing it in Floridians' faces. Rick Scott, who gutted Florida's unemployment system, says coronavirus stimulus will pay low-wage workers too much Florida Sen. Rick Scott says unemployed people make too much money, won't 'go back to work' Rick Scott says Americans would rather collect unemployment than go to work - moot point considering that most claimants can't get any benefits at all. Gov. DeSantis says unemployment system was 'designed to fail' - DeSantis slammed the Rick Scott-era website. |
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When a good chunk of our population is over the age of 60 and they're the most at risk. It irks them and many younger voters too because it is being interpreted as DeSantis not caring about the elderly. These people have families. Furthermore, there is the issue of DeSantis sweeping nursing home deaths under the rug.
Florida won't say which group homes have had coronavirus Gov. DeSantis faces pressure to ID hard-hit nursing homes Miami Herald drafted a suit seeking ALF records. DeSantis aide pressured law firm not to file it DeSantis twists arm of Miami Herald attorney Explosive': Office of Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis Attempted to Squash Newspaper's Lawsuit Seeking Coronavirus Records The State under DeSantis' directions originally wouldn't say which facilities were infected. It took the threat of a lawsuit to get that information out to the public. That plus his statement, means the totality of the situation paints a bleak picture in the scope of Public Opinion and Public Perception of him right now. Florida is a crucial swing state with tiny margins. The goal is to attract the fence sitters to the Right so they can maintain majority. The State has 5.04 million registered Democrats voters, compared to 4.79 million registered Republicans. An additional 3.78 million voters are registered with minor parties or have no party affiliation. If Florida Republicans want to maintain power in statewide elections, they need to court those 3.78 million independents. Many of them are Centrist or Slightly Left. Making disparaging remarks during a press conference about the elderly doesn't help. Public perception sways public opinion and public opinion is what makes or breaks politics. There is a reason why politicians have public relation handlers. Tampa Mayor Jane Castor gets 78% approval rating in pandemic, outdoing DeSantis, Trump, new poll shows Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis' confusing coronavirus response is hurting his public standing Florida governor sees approval rating drop amid virus outbreak DeSantis is dropping in popularity, but Trump is doing worse in FL. Poll: DeSantis fares better on COVID-19 test than president Biden has slim lead over Trump in Florida in new Fox News poll If there is one thing I've learned, down ballot consequences do happen when the publicly perceived leadership of the Party drops in poll numbers and approval ratings. If Trump loses support and DeSantis loses support, that effects the Congressional and State Legislative elections. Furthermore, it can effect Trump's own campaign. Remember, FL went for Obama twice and Trump won FL with less than a 2% lead over Hillary. DeSantis barely beat Gillum in too and that was also a tiny lead. The key to winning FL is winning the fence sitters. |
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DeSantis has shown poor leadership, I hope a Republican runs against him
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Quoted: Amazing how fast we throw our own kind under the bus. Now I know why Democrats win so many elections. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: DeSantis has shown poor leadership, I hope a Republican runs against him Amazing how fast we throw our own kind under the bus. Now I know why Democrats win so many elections. Florida medical examiners were releasing coronavirus death data. The state made them atop. |
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Originally Posted By Miami_JBT: Holding our own to the higher standard they claim to represent isn't a bad thing. Why is this happening? Florida medical examiners were releasing coronavirus death data. The state made them atop. View Quote Was there any "leader" any where that didn't screw this plandemic up? I dont pretend to know how to run a state or city and I dont blame De Santis anymore than everyone else that had this thrown in there lap. I still support him and pray this will end sometime soon . Maybe the lard ass meth head Gillum would have handled it better. When it come to Republicans good luck finding someone better than Ron for your primary challenge. |
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Originally Posted By CZRider: Rick Scott screwed us all and we put him in the Senate for it. Second verse, same as the first... View Quote Hell I was lucky enough to be screwed by him when Columbia bought out HCA. Raises went from merit based 3-8% (3% or 8% required documentation and paperwork for HR) to flat 3% across the board. Spending on things like the cafeteria food (we had award winning food), grounds (award winning gardens, public access) and public/community events (massive sunrise easter services, impressive lgihts display for christmas, massive out door services for Sukkot, etc) were totally removed as was the budget for the annual employee-and-family picnic (bunch of the docs got together and started covering costs instead) Then I changed jobs in the late 90s to working for the state, then he gets elected to the gubners chair and guess what happens? |
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It’s like DrudgeReport on here with all these negative media reports.
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Months before Florida leaders had any clue, coronavirus was creeping through the state
As late as March 11, Gov. Ron DeSantis denied that community spread was taking place in Florida, a claim challenged by experts and in direct opposition to statements made the day before by Dr. Anthony Fauci, widely considered the federal government's top expert on infectious disease. DeSantis did not issue a statewide stay-at-home order until April 1, when there were nearly 8,000 confirmed cases and 101 deaths. In the background, the state was collecting data that suggests much earlier community transmission when the virus spreads with no known origin. DeSantis' denials came more than two months after Florida residents with no travel history began to come down with COVID-19. View Quote |
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I'm not holding Desantis responsible for this. He still has my vote.
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Originally Posted By Miami_JBT: Florida Health Department manager told to delete coronavirus data forced to resign, she says View Quote Not trying to be a dick but did De Santis do something to you ? Seems like you actively post bad shit about the man all the time. |
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Originally Posted By Miami_JBT: Florida Health Department manager told to delete coronavirus data forced to resign, she says View Quote Good firing. |
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Originally Posted By Miami_JBT: Florida knew a COVID-19 pandemic was likely; state leaders didn't warn the public View Quote Another great article that describes how well the state planned for the pending crisis and managed it effectively. As distorted as the headline is, even the reporter couldn’t change the facts regarding the success of the early planning and response. |
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Article on how DeSantis saved thousands of lives: https://justthenews.com/accountability/ny-and-pa-put-coronavirus-patients-nursing-homes-florida-kept-them-hospitals
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Quoted: Article on how DeSantis saved thousands of lives: https://justthenews.com/accountability/ny-and-pa-put-coronavirus-patients-nursing-homes-florida-kept-them-hospitals View Quote Considering the potential death, he did a great job. Anyone looking at this objectively can see that. Florida has lead by example, but the left wingers will continue to twist small problems into major issues in an attempt to effect the upcoming election. DeSantis and Trump are tied at the hip. If they can make it appear that DeSantis failed they vicariously nail Trump. How about looking at Coumo or Newsom for failure? On a side note, DeSantis also needs to cut Sheriff Tony loose. That was a mistake. |
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