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Posted: 5/19/2022 4:49:23 PM EDT
"The Oklahoma legislature on Thursday passed a Texas-style bill banning nearly all abortions in the state that, with the governor’s signature, would become the strictest abortion law in the country.

The bill, modeled after the mechanism of Texas’ SB 8, which deputizes private citizens as its enforcers and has proved difficult to challenge in court, now heads to Republican Gov. Kevin Stitt, who has pledged to sign any bill restricting the procedure that reaches his desk.

But the bill goes a step further than the Texas law, banning abortion after fertilization has occurred rather than when a heartbeat can be detected and represents at least the third restrictive – and sometimes redundant – bill prohibiting the procedure to head to the governor’s desk in the last two months alone.

No sarcasm in my post. Way to go. Proud of you Okies!!
Link Posted: 5/20/2022 8:35:59 AM EDT
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My problem is they’re making all these laws yet nothing for the pre or post natal care for the women or the infants. So who is going to care for all these unwanted children? Are the parents of teenage girls that screw up and get pregnant going to be able to suit class action status for care or daycare provision. They created all these laws yet nothing to help the unborn except more taxation and strain on and already poor health care system.

Typical government steps in and screw’s everything up so they can step in and screw it up more later. I guess it’s job security.

Another question is what will and unwanted pregnancy do to a teenage girls ability to go to college with the limited daycare and higher costs of daycare? Will grandparents get a tax deduction for another dependent? I got a sinking feeling this law will bankrupt some families.
Link Posted: 5/22/2022 10:25:51 AM EDT
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I totally disagree OP.  We are shooting ourselves in the foot.  I just cannot understand why conservatives feel the need to make abortion a political matter.  It is no one's business except the woman who is pregnant.

This bullshit has infuriated all the conservative women in my family.  They all say there are legitimate reasons a woman might want/need an abortion and they are mad as hell now at every republican who was for this.  

They are so mad that I suspect I know which way they will vote the next time

There is so much wrong in this country yet republicans are focused on telling a woman what she can do with her body and democrats are focused on the climate
Link Posted: 5/22/2022 3:35:58 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By sparkyD:
My problem is they’re making all these laws yet nothing for the pre or post natal care for the women or the infants. So who is going to care for all these unwanted children? Are the parents of teenage girls that screw up and get pregnant going to be able to suit class action status for care or daycare provision. They created all these laws yet nothing to help the unborn except more taxation and strain on and already poor health care system.

Typical government steps in and screw’s everything up so they can step in and screw it up more later. I guess it’s job security.

Another question is what will and unwanted pregnancy do to a teenage girls ability to go to college with the limited daycare and higher costs of daycare? Will grandparents get a tax deduction for another dependent? I got a sinking feeling this law will bankrupt some families.
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Originally Posted By sparkyD:
My problem is they’re making all these laws yet nothing for the pre or post natal care for the women or the infants. So who is going to care for all these unwanted children? Are the parents of teenage girls that screw up and get pregnant going to be able to suit class action status for care or daycare provision. They created all these laws yet nothing to help the unborn except more taxation and strain on and already poor health care system.

Typical government steps in and screw’s everything up so they can step in and screw it up more later. I guess it’s job security.

Another question is what will and unwanted pregnancy do to a teenage girls ability to go to college with the limited daycare and higher costs of daycare? Will grandparents get a tax deduction for another dependent? I got a sinking feeling this law will bankrupt some families.


So how does Sally getting pregnant and having a baby become the gov't's responsibility?   That's up to Sally to figure out.  

College?  College is certainly not a right; it's a privilege.  College =/= success in life.  Those two are mutually exclusive.

Originally Posted By USCG_CPO:
I totally disagree OP.  We are shooting ourselves in the foot.  I just cannot understand why conservatives feel the need to make abortion a political matter.  It is no one's business except the woman who is pregnant.

This bullshit has infuriated all the conservative women in my family.  They all say there are legitimate reasons a woman might want/need an abortion and they are mad as hell now at every republican who was for this.  

They are so mad that I suspect I know which way they will vote the next time

There is so much wrong in this country yet republicans are focused on telling a woman what she can do with her body and democrats are focused on the climate


It's not telling a woman what she can/can't do with her body, it's telling a woman she can't murder the baby growing inside her.
Link Posted: 5/23/2022 10:28:22 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By DD1801:

It's not telling a woman what she can/can't do with her body, it's telling a woman she can't murder the baby growing inside her.
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It absolutely is telling a woman what she cant do.  And women dont want to be told what they can and cant do any more than you want to be told what guns you can and cant buy.

Politicians need to stay the fuck out of people's personal business.  If someone wants an abortion, that their business, not yours, not mine, no ones.

Our state republicans screwed the pooch on this one.  They have driven a lot of women away.  I hear my wife and her friends talk, my daughter is in her 20's and know what her and her friends think.  No one that I know here is for this.
Link Posted: 5/24/2022 1:13:14 AM EDT
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It's not telling a woman what she can/can't do with her body, it's telling a woman she can't murder the baby growing inside her.
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QFT.

Not to mention how damned easy it is to NOT get pregnant in the first place.
Link Posted: 5/24/2022 9:33:46 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By DD1801:


So how does Sally getting pregnant and having a baby become the gov't's responsibility?   That's up to Sally to figure out.  

College?  College is certainly not a right; it's a privilege.  College =/= success in life.  Those two are mutually exclusive.



It's not telling a woman what she can/can't do with her body, it's telling a woman she can't murder the baby growing inside her.
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Sounds like you’re a pro lifer that dumps puppies too. Oklahoma has a no question give up a baby law where a woman can drop off a baby no question asked.

I talked to my representative yesterday and they have four bill’s on the table for adoption and housing if a mother is kicked out of her family along with setting aside money where the pregnancy doesn’t effect the general health care. Some one that is so cold that they say let the mother figure it out proves the point that some people are weaponizing political agendas just like the other sides up to birth abortion advocates.
As for college you say it’s a privilege but if a girl getting pregnant in her teens is forced to give birth and has little resources that limits her rights. Is birth a privilege? At the wrong time in a girl’s life it can be detrimental to her future. They are discussing extenuating circumstances to allow for early teens abortion because of the negative circumstances it can have on the child’s life. I agree sometimes abortion is a necessary evil.
Link Posted: 5/24/2022 9:37:18 AM EDT
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QFT.

Not to mention how damned easy it is to NOT get pregnant in the first place.
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Originally Posted By DD1801:


It's not telling a woman what she can/can't do with her body, it's telling a woman she can't murder the baby growing inside her.


QFT.

Not to mention how damned easy it is to NOT get pregnant in the first place.

Teens are the ones that are at risk here. My wife got pregnant while on birth control when we decided to change course in life and I went back to school to finish my education. It’s rare but there are unplanned pregnancies.
Link Posted: 6/28/2022 6:13:03 PM EDT
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If you can’t handle a baby don’t have sex.

My wife and I waited until we were ready to support a child just in case birth control failed. It would not have been convenient but that’s not the baby’s fault.
Link Posted: Yesterday 9:38:04 AM EDT
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I'm wondering why everyone insists that women carry to term EVEN if it's all bad. Incest, rape and isk to mother should absolutely be allowed for abortions. I legit wouldn't want my daughter, any of them, to carry the spawn of a bastard rapist. Yes "conservatives" demand women carry to term, period.
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