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Posted: 11/30/2018 9:18:23 AM EDT
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Posted: 11/30/2018 6:07:08 PM EDT
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Almost a year ago I bought my first NFA items: a pair of suppressors.
I'm getting nervous now that I may not be able to legally possess them after this session. Or even take ownership of them depending on how much longer I have to wait. 
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Posted: 12/1/2018 2:36:28 AM EDT
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When the R's were fully "in charge" the D's had very little trouble blocking their good bills.
Tit for tat, time for us to do that! Given enough heat even a rabid gun banner will usually back-off hoping for a chance to ram something through on another day. We have to fire the heat up and keep it up. |
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Posted: 12/1/2018 4:30:06 AM EDT
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When the R's were fully "in charge" the D's had very little trouble blocking their good bills. Tit for tat, time for us to do that! Given enough heat even a rabid gun banner will usually back-off hoping for a chance to ram something through on another day. We have to fire the heat up and keep it up. |
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Posted: 12/1/2018 6:37:43 AM EDT
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He's a go getter Leave it the way it is. Besides, Pat McCarran was 100 times the man Reid is. FHR.
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Posted: 12/1/2018 11:43:35 AM EDT
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The governor ran on the ‘ban guns used 10/1/17’ and I knew it would be his first move. He couldn’t let his Begas voters down. The blue card system was just eliminated so we now need a statewide registration.
Also, I hear he wants to start having people smog cars statewide. Gotta get that emission money. |
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Posted: 12/1/2018 11:44:09 AM EDT
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Maybe they could name the Clark County Jail after Reid. That’s where he belongs anyway.
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Posted: 12/1/2018 1:46:52 PM EDT
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The governor ran on the ‘ban guns used 10/1/17’ and I knew it would be his first move. He couldn’t let his Begas voters down. The blue card system was just eliminated so we now need a statewide registration. Also, I hear he wants to start having people smog cars statewide. Gotta get that emission money. Seems this prick wants to start a war with me. My custom cars may be even more important to me than guns! I might have to make becoming his worst nightmare my full time job.
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Posted: 12/1/2018 6:41:30 PM EDT
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Since lame Laxolt did not use any of the dirt in the new governor's past (large "contributions" from real estate developers, business, unions
or the questionable relationship with his ex's under age daughter -where the fuck are the # Metoo fucknuts!!!) should we not get dirty too? For craps sake the state elected a attorney general with a frickin' record (and who is confrontational with police). I lived in HI, so I know what it is to live in a "banned" state- it's not fun. |
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Posted: 12/1/2018 9:17:16 PM EDT
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Start banning shit so we can all not comply and kick this thing off already. Fuck California policy and influence, and all the assholes moving here and voting for the exact same shit that made their 3rd world shithole so wonderful.
The logic (or lack thereof) of my former state boggles the mind. I was just in what was once beautiful downtown LA eating at a $100+ a head restaurant, and I had to trip over homeless tents on the way out the door. Can't wait till we have that extra ambiance in front of the Bellagio Fountain. It'll be a hit with the Cali tourists! |
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Posted: 12/2/2018 10:39:50 AM EDT
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Start banning shit so we can all not comply and kick this thing off already. Fuck California policy and influence, and all the assholes moving here and voting for the exact same shit that made their 3rd world shithole so wonderful. The logic (or lack thereof) of my former state boggles the mind. I was just in what was once beautiful downtown LA eating at a $100+ a head restaurant, and I had to trip over homeless tents on the way out the door. Can't wait till we have that extra ambiance in front of the Bellagio Fountain. It'll be a hit with the Cali tourists! |
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Posted: 12/2/2018 4:52:30 PM EDT
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Should we start working with SHOT and other organizations suggesting an unfriendly Nevada political climate to their industry should be rewarded with moving their events, operations and business elsewhere?
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Posted: 12/2/2018 5:03:13 PM EDT
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Should we start working with SHOT and other organizations suggesting an unfriendly Nevada political climate to their industry should be rewarded with moving their events, operations and business elsewhere? |
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Posted: 12/2/2018 5:22:47 PM EDT
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https://www.nssf.org/shot-show-to-remain-at-sands-expo-through-2027/
At the bottom it indicates revenue for Las Vegas from SHOT remaining until 2027 is around 1.1 Billion dollars, that's a large sum of money pumping into Nevada's economy. I'll happily contribute to the hat we might have to pass to help NSSF cover the cost of cancellation should it be required. |
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Posted: 12/4/2018 2:57:42 PM EDT
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Someone should tell the dope that suppressors are already restricted by state and federal law unless you are willing to jump through the NFA hoops. My guess is you’d be hard pressed to find an example of a legally possessed suppressor used in a crime.
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Posted: 12/4/2018 6:49:57 PM EDT
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Someone should tell the dope that suppressors are already restricted by state and federal law unless you are willing to jump through the NFA hoops. My guess is you’d be hard pressed to find an example of a legally possessed suppressor used in a crime. |
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Posted: 12/5/2018 12:27:50 AM EDT
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I think it’s what he will do......sheriff is right there with him. Going to be interesting times ahead.
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Posted: 12/5/2018 10:26:25 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/6/2018 2:49:22 PM EDT
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Yeah the NFA stuff in particular is going to be 'interesting'. Are they going to grandfather in things or are they planning on violating Constitutional rights of NV Citizens by taking legally owned property away from folks with no compensation? What about people that have NFA tax stamp paperwork already in the queue (such as Form 1s & 4s), what happens to all that?
This could be a shit-show of epic proportions. 
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Posted: 12/6/2018 8:49:11 PM EDT
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Didn’t Colorado take away magazine capacity as well as California? I’m pretty sure it doesn’t matter what you own now it’s what they say you can own. I don’t think the NRA would fight for Nevada to keep private full autos
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Posted: 12/7/2018 2:00:28 AM EDT
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Even if your state reps are D-bags you have never spoken to, NOW is the time to begin doing so!
Let them know in no uncertain terms that you do NOT support this unconstitutional crap and they had better not do so either. Let them know that your reaction will vary from support in the next election to sponsoring a recall effort immediately, depending on their actions. Recalls rarely work but they DO embarrass and cost targeted legis-critters, they also provide campaign fodder for the opponent in the next election.
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Posted: 12/7/2018 8:59:55 AM EDT
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Sisolak can start by sharing the true motives for the Route 91 festival shooter. One that was NEVER disclosed btw...
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Posted: 12/7/2018 10:27:51 AM EDT
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Sadly it does not appear that we are going to get any help from the courts if states do ban weapons and/or magazines.
The 4th Circuit upheld a NJ ban on magazines with a capacity in excess of 10 rounds saying that it wasn’t a “taking” in the Constitutional sense because the higher capacity magazines could be converted into legal 10 rounders. https://www.gunsamerica.com/digest/court-appeals-upholds-new-jersey-magazine-capacity-limit/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=20181207_FridayDigest_203&utm_campaign=/digest/court-appeals-upholds-new-jersey-magazine-capacity-limit/ The Supreme Court likewise turned away a challenge to a Maryland law banning semi automatic firearms essentially meaning that States can ban these types of firearms. https://www.gunsamerica.com/digest/breaking-scouts-turns-away-assault-weapons-ban-open-carry-cases/ In short, we are completely and totally effed. |
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Posted: 12/7/2018 12:21:39 PM EDT
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Without the "Blue card" crap to infirm them who has what any ban is unenforceable.
I figure that by the time Sissy and his goons can make much headway on confiscation after the inevitable court battles he will be out of office. His main result will be enough NV gun owners becoming "Woke" that his ilk cannot reach the governorship again. Bad law CAN be repealed, damn difficult but it does happen if enough heat is applied to the legislators. His main legacy will be having sharpened the divide between Clark County and the rest of this state much like Chicago and the rest of Illinois or NYC and upper NY. Not a legacy to be proud of, and it's begun even before he takes office! 
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Posted: 12/8/2018 12:47:15 AM EDT
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Without the "Blue card" crap to infirm them who has what any ban is unenforceable.
I figure that by the time Sissy and his goons can make much headway on confiscation after the inevitable court battles he will be out of office. His main result will be enough NV gun owners becoming "Woke" that his ilk cannot reach the governorship again. Bad law CAN be repealed, damn difficult but it does happen if enough heat is applied to the legislators. His main legacy will be having sharpened the divide between Clark County and the rest of this state much like Chicago and the rest of Illinois or NYC and upper NY. Not a legacy to be proud of, and it's begun even before he takes office! |
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Posted: 12/8/2018 6:47:54 AM EDT
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It could certainly get "Interesting"!
NFA is a Fed. TAX, and confidential between you and the Fed. Gov. Technically ossifer Joe Friday has no right to see your form four without a warrant. Read the form carefully, your local Po-Po are not among those listed as authorized to ask to see it. Of course your local sheriff was notified or signed off when you got your NFA item, will he support the citizens who elected him, or break confidentiality to support the ban? Our best answer remains being so involved that the 'tards "Blink" and never pass a ban. Sissy cannot just enact one by some sort of executive order, he's going to be a governor, not the emperor! |
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Posted: 12/9/2018 9:56:45 PM EDT
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Of course your local sheriff was notified or signed off when you got your NFA item, will he support the citizens who elected him, or break confidentiality to support the ban? |
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Posted: 12/9/2018 10:06:10 PM EDT
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Eh, Lombardo is a greasy one. I wouldnt doubt for one second he would do some shit like that. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Of course your local sheriff was notified or signed off when you got your NFA item, will he support the citizens who elected him, or break confidentiality to support the ban? |
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Posted: 12/9/2018 10:40:35 PM EDT
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Does the minority have any power at all to block legislation (like a filibuster in the US Senate) ? Or are the commies simply going to californicate NV in one session ?
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Posted: 12/9/2018 11:42:17 PM EDT
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Does the minority have any power at all to block legislation (like a filibuster in the US Senate) ? Or are the commies simply going to californicate NV in one session ? |
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Posted: 12/10/2018 12:09:28 AM EDT
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It could certainly get "Interesting"! NFA is a Fed. TAX, and confidential between you and the Fed. Gov. Technically ossifer Joe Friday has no right to see your form four without a warrant. Read the form carefully, your local Po-Po are not among those listed as authorized to ask to see it. Of course your local sheriff was notified or signed off when you got your NFA item, will he support the citizens who elected him, or break confidentiality to support the ban? Our best answer remains being so involved that the 'tards "Blink" and never pass a ban. Sissy cannot just enact one by some sort of executive order, he's going to be a governor, not the emperor! On top of that the only gun rights group here looks fairly week compared to what we had in oregon and washington. I am not optimistic with this overall combo and rather pissed off. I left oregon and washington to get away from this bs and found a good job. Along with all of that national gun right groups dont to be that effective lately either. |
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Posted: 12/10/2018 12:50:04 AM EDT
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Are there any "pro gun" commies in the legislature or are they all marxist/shitbag gun-thieving sub-human trash as in CA ?
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Posted: 12/10/2018 1:02:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: One. Session. Done. |
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Posted: 12/10/2018 1:27:18 AM EDT
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I don't have the exact statistics at hand but I recall that several other states have found their varied bans to be somewhere between getting little compliance to almost none.
If most folk comply it gets fairly easy to force the rest into giving in, if virtually no one complies enforcement becomes very difficult. Building prison camps to hold tens of thousands is bad political optics, likely to annoy enough relatives to ensure losing power at the next election.
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Posted: 12/10/2018 10:21:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So if they go full retard at the end of session, we have a full two years of anarchy and uh, dissent. Right? Honestly though I foresee it will be more along the lines of #willnotcomply. |
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Posted: 12/10/2018 1:42:38 PM EDT
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Antifa style ;) Honestly though I foresee it will be more along the lines of #willnotcomply. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: So if they go full retard at the end of session, we have a full two years of anarchy and uh, dissent. Right? Honestly though I foresee it will be more along the lines of #willnotcomply. |
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Posted: 12/10/2018 4:05:57 PM EDT
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To be "Hip" and in current style, Yellow Vest!
2A Shall Not Be Infringed! |
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Posted: 12/10/2018 4:19:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: One. Session. Done. |
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Posted: 12/11/2018 2:19:46 AM EDT
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It could certainly get "Interesting"! NFA is a Fed. TAX, and confidential between you and the Fed. Gov. Technically ossifer Joe Friday has no right to see your form four without a warrant. Read the form carefully, your local Po-Po are not among those listed as authorized to ask to see it. Of course your local sheriff was notified or signed off when you got your NFA item, will he support the citizens who elected him, or break confidentiality to support the ban? Our best answer remains being so involved that the 'tards "Blink" and never pass a ban. Sissy cannot just enact one by some sort of executive order, he's going to be a governor, not the emperor! |
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Posted: 12/11/2018 12:23:42 PM EDT
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But there is still a LOT of legal NFA in Kalifornia, and probably other states that used to be NFA legal!
"Grandfathered" from before the ban, and ATF is NOT confiscating or refusing to transfer it into another state. What happens is that if Kalifornia finds out that the owner has died they show up and try to grab it from the estate. So heirs have to move fast to get it out of Kali. jurisdiction. Kali. cannot chase the NFA items across state lines to seize them. Some of us should remember the whole story on the Stembridge sale as a prime example of Kali. trying to steal millions of dollars in NFA but being frustrated by the savvy owners. Kali NFA holders "should" make arrangements ahead of time but too often do not.
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Posted: 12/11/2018 1:27:32 PM EDT
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But there is still a LOT of legal NFA in Kalifornia, and probably other states that used to be NFA legal! "Grandfathered" from before the ban, and ATF is NOT confiscating or refusing to transfer it into another state. What happens is that if Kalifornia finds out that the owner has died they show up and try to grab it from the estate. So heirs have to move fast to get it out of Kali. jurisdiction. Kali. cannot chase the NFA items across state lines to seize them. Some of us should remember the whole story on the Stembridge sale as a prime example of Kali. trying to steal millions of dollars in NFA but being frustrated by the savvy owners. Kali NFA holders "should" make arrangements ahead of time but too often do not. |
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Posted: 12/11/2018 8:38:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I tend to agree that they can’t just take you stuff without some justification, unfortunately the NJ case cited above states that it is not a taking to force people with high capacity magazines to either reduce the capacity or destroy the magazines entirely. The legislation in the works in many states (and soon to be ours in our Blue Hole) will make the heady days of the old federal assault weapon ban look like the “good old days” |
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Posted: 12/11/2018 9:54:54 PM EDT
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Some if not all the rural Sheriffs aren't gonna bother with any nonsense gun laws . So residents there wont know or care.
Clark and Washoe will fully implement everything though. |
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Posted: 12/12/2018 11:12:05 PM EDT
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I don't have the exact statistics at hand but I recall that several other states have found their varied bans to be somewhere between getting little compliance to almost none. If most folk comply it gets fairly easy to force the rest into giving in, if virtually no one complies enforcement becomes very difficult. Building prison camps to hold tens of thousands is bad political optics, likely to annoy enough relatives to ensure losing power at the next election. |
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Posted: 12/13/2018 7:41:29 PM EDT
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Some if not all the rural Sheriffs aren't gonna bother with any nonsense gun laws . So residents there wont know or care. Clark and Washoe will fully implement everything though. |
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Posted: 12/16/2018 2:35:26 PM EDT
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NJ's response,
https://www.ammoland.com/2018/12/new-jersey-magazine-ban-goes-into-effect/?fbclid=IwAR3V3GEaqO4aAogxiDZjCxgaNF2yzqiSde_H4FxbRUrXVC55cn6zSo504WY#axzz5ZgDaD7aT
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Posted: 12/16/2018 4:37:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Make some room at Rachel. You're going to have another squatter. 
...but yea...Kerry Lee ain't got time for nonsense laws.
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Posted: 12/18/2018 10:29:48 PM EDT
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Dickkhead talked to KOLO in October, here's a brilliant quote: “I’m a big believer in the second amendment,” Sisolak said in October. “People have a right to bear arms. But what I saw at one October, the carnage, the bodies, and the blood… there is no need for bump stocks and expanded cartridges that hold 100 rounds. That’s what they had there. If that hadn’t been there, maybe they could save some lives.”
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Posted: 12/19/2018 12:00:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They’re going to make a lot of felons out of a lot of good people. Sadly this a public relations war that we are losing. The press demonizes guns and the public blindly follows. It doesn’t help that you have a-holes going in and shooting up schools using ARs which as a parent is my worst nightmare. People are being manipulated and don’t even know it to our disadvantage. Unless we get an affirmative court ruling supporting us at some point I fear the anti gun lobby is going to continue to whittle away at gun rights on a state level. With Nevada turning into a blue hole that means us. |
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