"Guesstimate".

Word of the year, that.

Want to bet if they "blame" this on social distancing? Frame it as a spectacular success? Anything else is pretty much political suicide.

Are we peaking yet... still waiting for a peak. Anywho... wonder if she ran Ohio's numbers through the UK model that ended up being a giant shit show?

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This bears repeating...

“2 more weeks!”

Come on though, it's cute to watch him puff up like the big tough guy, swooping in to protect her from all of the meanies who are just too backwards to comprehend her genius.  He looks like he really believes it...

Oh, I remember it very well.

Called B.S. at the time.

Still waiting on those numbers.

We should bring back all of the  the Spanish Torture devices on politicians and their handlers such as her.

Do it for science.

The only numbers that matter are the numbers who require hospital care. Otherwise it is just someone who got sick and will get better eventually

Somewhere between all of her "ummm"s and "uh"s she is still trying to convince us the numbers are wrong and Neil Ferguson was right.  We are still a bit shy of his 2.2 million deaths in the US prediciton, but, ummmm uhhh it uhhh could um uh still uh happen.

To be fair at some point after there was a ruling that muddied this, liberal academics and legals state it doesnt apply to healthcare crisis, but thats typical....

I love how these tyrants violate our rights and tells us it's "for our own good". They all have proven they do not know what they are talking about.

I said at the very begining, these orders need built in end dates, otherwise they'll just go one forever.

30 Cases, 1 death here, Preble Co. We border Montgomery which is Dayton.

To the west side is Union Co. IN, they have 8 cases and 0 deaths.

She was drunk the whole time.

The irony is that she issues licenses to kill babies.

Today is Fran's Birthday!!

The sad thing is she actually has a fan club.

She will run for Governor as a D and likely win.

Naw, I'm betting a U.S. senator run....

Naw, I'm pretty sure she's a diversity doctor thats functionally retarded........

You just described my PhD supervisor perfectly. And some of my clients

Bingo! Coming from a family of engineers (as an entrepreneur, I didn't make the cut...) they can ONLY make a choice outside of those boundaries if there is a hard deadline to meet. But at this point, Dr. Doom is in charge of the timeline as well....so we know where that will lead...

I have thought that we were overreacting on a societal level since the beginning of all of this.  That said I understood why the shut downs could make sense to "flatten the curve" because I could have been wrong about my assessment at the time (I've been wrong about stuff once or twice).  What I find so infuriating is the flat out refusal to admit that maybe this thing isn't as deadly as we originally thought by folks like Acton and DeWine.  Clearly it's pretty darned contagious but it doesn't kill or hospitalize the VAST majority of people who get it.  There has been no reaction to that by the powers that be here in OH.

I also agree that somewhere along the line the goal for the shutdown shifted from "flattening the curve" to "until we have a vaccine/cure" which are very different parameters.  I wasn't happy about the initial shut-down but I accepted it.  I'm flat out angry about the shift in goals and refusal to adapt the model to what we've learned over the last couple of months.

 Nice one!  

Food for thought:

I followed a link in a news article that the president of my company sent out to an article from MSN Money (of all places) that ranked states shutdown/virus reaction from least restrictive to most.  I didn't get through the article as it was one of those ones where you have to click through slides to see the next paragraph and there were 55 slides.  

I did find this map that they made to be pretty interesting though.  It's weird to me that we ranked worse than MI but I think that some of that has to do with the dates when restrictions went into effect.  We were one of the first if I remember right.


Way to go Utah and South Dakota!!!

I appreciate the analogy, but his first mistake was to engage in the situation to begin with.

As I'm sure you know - In the annals of Star Trek, the cadets are given the choice of whether to engage in 'rescue' or to leave the stranded ship to it's own fate (most choose to engage). Its a character test of the commanding officer. Is the character of the commanding officer such that he/she is willing to potentially sacrifice the entire crew of their ship (as well as the Maru) in order to 'virtue signal' that they are willing to break the rules (in this case the neutral zone treaty, breaking of which could lead to war) to save everyone "for the greater good" of everyone only within eyesight of the commander ; OR do they have the moral character to know that they must 'sacrifice' that which has already happened (Maru drifting into neutral territory) in order to save the crew that he/she are actually in charge of as well as not facilitating a possible war, thereby doing the actual "greater good" for those who are not actually there to witness the act and yet will then vilify their choice.
It really comes down to the hubris of the cadet being tested. Are they willing to take the personal character hit of not 'saving that which cannot be saved' or forcing the entire crew to pay for their commander's unwillingness to accept a personal defeat.

DeSwine's first mistake was engaging in the situation to begin with and bringing government power into a situation that it was not appropriate for. The Karenwaffe was going to scream and 'attack' anyways - the difference being that they now had the force of government virtue signaling behind them to bolster their temper tantrum because of his choice to engage. He was unwilling to make the character choice of being hit with a minor political weapon (corona infections that are totally out of the control of government, not matter what was tried), so instead he sacrificed the entire state (unemployment skyrocketing, economic crashes, industry sector collapses, spikes in other medical & mental health deaths/outcomes, etc..) in order to virtue signal that he's really a nice/good guy and is just trying to help.

His political career is as good as dead, the least he could do would be to try to not make it worse and right some of the wrongs he's done, but he instead sits on the sidelines staring at it all wondering how did it all go so wrong and doubling down on the mistakes that got him here in the first place.
I think in many respects I agree with your take on the matter, but what we're witnessing isn't so much a lack of knowledge (the knowledge is NEVER fully formed, and by god, government is THE LEAST ABLE entity to actually use/move on that changing picture and so never should have been engaged in the first place), but a lack of actual leadership. Knowing the limits of government and its usage, and letting the private market do what it does best: pivot and innovate new solutions to new problems - and do it in near real time with laser precision, not at the glacial speed of government wielding a sledgehammer/nuke.

I disagree, he will be loved just like our last governor, you know the demokrat Kasuk...

IIRC bars & restaurants were ordered closed on March 15. The "stay home" order followed a week later.

I agree Ohio had fewer overall restrictions than Michigan. They had more store closures and crazy limits on travel within the state.

There's a javascript browser add-on called "deslide" that helps with some of those annoying web stories. When it works it extracts all the slides to a single page. Often doesn't work though

......yeah.....I hope you're not right.....
Well, in my household his name will not be spoken with joyous occasion of "Saving Us From The Great Corona!!"

Yes he is garnering praise from libtards, but when it comes to it, why would they vote for a "Democrat-like" Republican when they can just vote for a real Democrat?

I think he is alienating conservatives, so I'd say he's just left with the squishy middle and the other Republicans who think "he's just doing the best he can with what he was given"

That idiot thought he had a shot at POTUS, didn't even win primary in his own state.

Fuck Amy Acton.

She was given way too much power for an UNelected official.

Too much power for ANY official

Now we know how all those aborted babies feel, don't get a say in anything, and shut down like you don't matter.

It's getting harder and harder for me to see this ongoing "shutdown" as anything other than purposeful deception.

This is a longer article but worth the time it takes to read:
Governor DeWine Suppresses Data Disproving COVID-19 Policies

From the article:

Very interesting and well written.

Never heard of that station, looks like it might be a decent source for news.

I became aware of that reporter through the Bob Frantz Radio Show on AM 1420 in Cleveland.  He is the one who has been asking probing questions to DeWine during press conferences for a while now.

It looks like the station is out of Mansfield and I really don't know anything about them but at least they're willing to allow their reporters to ask difficult questions and explore ideas counter to the accepted narrative.  I think that we used to call that journalism...

I've been blasting his Twitter feed with the link to the article as much as i can untill my account gets banned... everyone can help if they want...

I think you've just made a strong case against ANY medical professional EVER being elected to hold a public office. And I'd agree with you. Most medical professionals may be great in laboratory settings, or when asked to handle the medical aspect of a public health emergency - but they are relatively incapable of leading because most of the time they miss the bigger picture.

Acton, Fauci, and others might give good advice when they tell us to cough on other people, but that's about as far as it goes for them. We elected leaders to act with the benefit of everyone in society in mind - and generally speaking that means they have a duty to minimize the total impact to society when things like a pandemic hit us. Minimizing deaths is one aspect of this, but not the total picture. As our governor, DeWine has the duty to make decisions that take all aspects of society into account when making decisions - impact on rights, economy, schools/education, etc., etc. So far, he's utterly failed in that regard - as he's pretty much let Acton run amok with her myopic tunnel vision at the helm.

That's nonsense

Closing schools made no sense.

Then why isn't there more rampant disease spread during normal times, when EVERYONE is shoulder to shoulder at fairs, concerts, etc?