This thread is to refine the documentation of the process for getting a SBR in Missouri.
Please read the green text, entirely before voting.
Submit changes or discussion in this thread only about this process documentation only.
The end refined result will be made into a resource link at the top, and its easier if we get the information right the first time.  I took the list flick-224 posted, made some changes, and added some information.






Process for getting building an short barreled rifle in the state of Missouri.

About: Short barreled rifle(SBR) is a rifle with a barrel less than 16inches.
These SBR's are subject to registration and a $200 building/transfering tax under the National Firearms Act(NFA).  In the state of Missouri, an FFL(Any type) is require to own any NFA weapon. You must maintain this FFL for the entire time you own an NFA item in Missouri.  Below is the process and information necessary to complete the required forms and to build a completed SBR.


1) Get C&R FFL.     For more information on getting a C&R FFL >>Here<<     I will also be writing a step by step process for that too.

2) Acquire/designate an rifle serialed part to SBR.  You need to chose which rifle you are going to register as a SBR. It can be a complete rifle, or a stripped "lower"/serialed part at this point, just don't buy that shorty barrel yet, you'll have to wait.
If you are buying a preregistered SBR from someone like CMMG or RRA, you skip this step, they did it for you.

3) Fill out the forms...   First step is to acquire the appropriate form,  ATF Form 1 if you are creating a SBR yourself, or ATF Form 4 if you are buying a preregistered SBR from a manufacturer.  You will also need fingerprint cards, and the Citizenship form. You can order these from the ATF's website free of charge.  Now you will need to go about filling these out.  If you need details on filling out these forms, for now you can go>>Here<< .
Once you get your forms filled out, you will need to get your chief law enforcement officer(CLEO) to sign off on the forms for you. The CLEO is most generally your county sheriff. You can also get them to do your finger print cards while you are there. If you happen to have a corporation, and your FFL is under it's name, you can register your SBR under the corporation and not have to get CLEO sign off or fingerprint cards.  Once you have a completed form, fingerprint cards, and the citizenship cards, make out a check for $200 payable to the Department of Justice, and mail it all to the address on the form.

4) Wait......then wait some more. It can take weeks, even months for them to finish it all up.  Once your check has cleared, you are  "pending" meaning they are going over your forms etc...  This will give you an indication that the ball is indeed rolling.

5) Receive stamp, make copies, keep originals in a safe place.  Safe Deposit boxes are a good idea for this and all valuable paper originals.

6) Engrave lower.   Some people actually  Acculaser in KC metro
If you are buying a preregistered SBR, you skip this because the manufacturer has already done it.

7) Buy short barrel or SBR upper.   If you are buying a preregistered SBR, you can skip this step, your SBR already has one, or atleast I'd hope so.

8) Assemble SBR and enjoy!   If you are buying a preregistered SBR, you can go pick up your SBR from the dealer/manufacturer now.


*Note: Serialed part is the actual firearm per the ATF, this is the lower receiver on AR15/10, Upper receiver on the Masada, and just receiver on a majority of other firearms.






Edit1:  Someone please find 1 reputable engraver for each large metro area of Missouri,   STL, Columbia/Jeff City, Springfield/Rolla.  I've already linked Acculaser as an example of a reputable engraver in KC.
Edit2: Incorporated changes made from suggestions in this thread, mainly by adding more detail in the forms step, and also added text speaking about the continuance of the FFL, and that getting an SBR isn't always building one on form1, specifically buy getting one on form4 from a dealer/manufacturer.
Edit3: Made the process rifle model ambiguous  by changing AR/lower to rifle and rifle serialed part, and upper to "short barrel"  because not all serialed parts are lowers, or uppers, and not all rifles take an upper some just take a barrel.   I have the feeling next edit is going to be about changing the process to include SBS's.

What about the steps to get a LLC started and what steps are then not needed with the LLC?  That part is really confusing to me.  Delete this if you want.(or need)

Good start.  Couple of minor comments:

2) Acquire/designate an AR lower to SBR.

Might note to acquire a "firearm" with (AR lower in parentheses.)  I currently have two SBRs and neither is an AR15.

3) Pay $200, Form 1 to ATF, get it signed by your CLEO.
I would note first to have the Form 1 signed by your CLEO.  That has to happen before you pay the $200 tax.

As a separate step, I would put something about sending in the package:
2-complete signed forms (don't forget to sign them yourself too.  Ask me how I know).
2-completed fingerprint cards
1-cert of compliance (form 5330.20) (or send 2 or 3.  They seem to loose these on a regular basis for some reason.  I had a transfer where I sent in the original, had to fax one in, and two weeks later had to fax another in as they kept calling the seller - the local police dept. in this instance - and telling them it had not been included.)
1-check for $200 (it used to be made out to the dept. of the Treasury.  Is it made out to BATF now?)

5) Receive stamp...
6) Engrave lower.
Some people recommend you do this in reverse order.  Engrave the lower before approval (or before you submit the paperwork).  That way, if the engraver screws up, you're just out the cost of a new receiver.  Once it is "registered", some people claim the receiver is now an SBR, even though it doesn't meet the definition of an SBR until it is "made" with a short barrel installed.  In any case, sending an NFA firearm (or receiver) has more potential for problems than shipping a Title I firearm.  

As noted, if you can get it done locally while you wait - so much the better.  That's not always an option.

on point two need to clarify as to what you have to do to designate a lower, does designate mean fill out paper work or just pick one and throw the serial number up on the form, if its a form thing just do it, ill be sending off for my C&r here soon, also it should be noted if somebody needs to keep a c&r to keep the sbr

I'll add text about going corp/LLC this morning.

Garret, Your right I should detail for form filling/sending alittle more.

Leo84, it says an FFL is required to own, not acquire,  I think that should go without saying, but I could probably expand on it more.

I'll have new changes made by this afternoon.

Quoted: Good start.  Couple of minor comments: 2) Acquire/designate an AR lower to SBR. Might note to acquire a "firearm" with (AR lower in parentheses.)  I currently have two SBRs and neither is an AR15. 3) Pay $200, Form 1 to ATF, get it signed by your CLEO. I would note first to have the Form 1 signed by your CLEO.  That has to happen before you pay the $200 tax. As a separate step, I would put something about sending in the package: 2-complete signed forms (don't forget to sign them yourself too.  Ask me how I know). 2-completed fingerprint cards 1-cert of compliance (form 5330.20) (or send 2 or 3.  They seem to loose these on a regular basis for some reason.  I had a transfer where I sent in the original, had to fax one in, and two weeks later had to fax another in as they kept calling the seller - the local police dept. in this instance - and telling them it had not been included.) 1-check for $200 (it used to be made out to the dept. of the Treasury.  Is it made out to BATF now?) 5) Receive stamp... 6) Engrave lower. Some people recommend you do this in reverse order.  Engrave the lower before approval (or before you submit the paperwork).  That way, if the engraver screws up, you're just out the cost of a new receiver.  Once it is "registered", some people claim the receiver is now an SBR, even though it doesn't meet the definition of an SBR until it is "made" with a short barrel installed.  In any case, sending an NFA firearm (or receiver) has more potential for problems than shipping a Title I firearm.   As noted, if you can get it done locally while you wait - so much the better.  That's not always an option.

I agree with GarrettJ

Don't know if this is worth adding or not...

I have been considering an SBR and read this thread.  I got to the step about engraving and wasn't sure what had to be engraved.  I had to Google really quick to see what needed to be engraved where.

Others might be in the same boat as me.

Obtaining an SBR doesn't always mean you will have to go through the process of engraving.  I'm no expert, but I believe it only has to be engraved when you are the one who built/assembled said NFA item.  My SBR was built by Vector Arms, and then transferred to my dealer on a Form 4.  There's very little markings on mine at all, apparently

Quoted: I'll add text about going corp/LLC this morning. Garret, Your right I should detail for form filling/sending alittle more. Leo84, it says an FFL is required to own, not acquire,  I think that should go without saying, but I could probably expand on it more. I'll have new changes made by this afternoon.

I realize this but it would help since this is like the idiots guide to NFA

Quoted: Obtaining an SBR doesn't always mean you will have to go through the process of engraving.  I'm no expert, but I believe it only has to be engraved when you are the one who built/assembled said NFA item.  My SBR was built by Vector Arms, and then transferred to my dealer on a Form 4.  There's very little markings on mine at all, apparently

Yes, engraving is to put you as the now manufaturer of the SBR

bump with changes.

Also please note, don't post in this thread unless you are commenting on the documentation process.

bump  needs more input.

What if I want to SBR something other than an AR??

Quoted: Quoted: What if I want to SBR something other than an AR?? Well, this is AR15.com, sooo.........   Process is similar, just engrave where appropriate.  As an example, with my "economic stimulus" check I plan to SBR an AR15, a MP5 clone and an AK.  All will be engraved on their respective receivers.

He will also be filling out a similar form 1 except instead of saying that the AR based model is [insert make of choice model of choice etc here] he will state that the AK based variant is An Eric 10mm Original called the E10-47, and the SN of that weapon...
Same with the MP5 Clown.... He will state that it is an SW-5 sn-xxx and so on...
WHAT it is is not terribly important to the purpose of this thread, it is the same paperwork, costs and so on to register as an SBR no matter if you are doing it as a stocked Glock, or an SBR 16" naval gun... Same form, tax, signatures etc...
Tain't Rocket Surgery, or Brain Science!!!

Quoted: What if I want to SBR something other than an AR??

I'll change the text to "rifle" rather than AR,  then I'll change the upper/lower to serialedpart/barrel.

This is me grumbling at retarded details that people _should_ be able to figure out on their own.
This thread like AFSOC says is about the process of the paperwork signatures etc... rather than wiping someones ass for them.

Sorry, wasn't needing my ass wiped.  You all were just talking about upper receivers, which aren't classified firearms anyway.  I didn't know if it made a diff if you were doing an actual firearm.

Thx.

Quoted: Sorry, wasn't needing my ass wiped.  You all were just talking about upper receivers, which aren't classified firearms anyway.  I didn't know if it made a diff if you were doing an actual firearm. Thx.

Possession of a short barreled upper  w/o possessing a SBR lower or a pistol lower is constructive intent and thus not legal.

Quoted: Sorry, wasn't needing my ass wiped.  You all were just talking about upper receivers, which aren't classified firearms anyway.  I didn't know if it made a diff if you were doing an actual firearm. Thx.

Dont take it personally, he's like that most of the time!  

If you dont have a lower to put the short upper on, you can have all the short uppers you want.  Buuuttt if you have a one rifle lower, even if its in use with a legal upper, and no pistol lower or SBR paper work you could get F'ed by the MAN for just possessing an under 16" upper unattached or not!

Info looks good, but a link to an "LLC How To" page would be good since we can't go the Trust route.  Also, can we get AOW's with the C&R/LLC?  I noticed that they aren't mentioned much around here.

Quoted: Info looks good, but a link to an "LLC How To" page would be good since we can't go the Trust route.  Also, can we get AOW's with the C&R/LLC?  I noticed that they aren't mentioned much around here.

LLC howto will come soon, separately, and crosslinked.
Your other question is not appropriate to this thread.

Bump

Too much to read. I am going back to 4chan and my fav porn sites.....

What are the rules and potential (evil ATF) scenarios of owning a SBR. I know there are some things I do that would be really really handy to have an SBR, but I am pretty hesitant to be on the governments "I have good shit" list.

Bump...



Consider writing in the actual form "names" in the description of what forms to order...

Am I missing the part abt 2 including photographs too (for the Individual/Non-LLC route) or is it there?