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Posted: 2/14/2018 4:21:33 PM EDT
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Well, if 10 round .40 cal glock mags are legal, then yes...since you can cram 12 rounds of 9mm into some .40 cal glock mags, and it functions perfectly.
I don't see how they can arrest you for having a 30 round AR15 mag if you only use it for .458 or .50 or 6.8 - they all hold 10 or less rounds. But does the law say "capable of holding more than 10 rounds..." ? If so, then all 40 cal glock mags are illegal, all shotguns are illegal since the tubes can hold more than 10 rounds of mini shot shells etc. Hell I can cram 50 rounds of .22lr into a 10 round 6.8 mag or 10 round 9mm glock mag...the law doesn't say it has to function...just "hold." So I guess all mags are illegal. The law was written by a retard. |
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Posted: 2/15/2018 11:19:02 AM EDT
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It may be legal by the letter of the law, but you need to ask yourself if it's worth the hassle. There's a high likelihood that it would only ever be an issue if you got jammed up for something unrelated like a domestic dispute or pulled over for something where they needed to impound your car and have its contents inventoried. I've observed many people using 30 round AR-15 magazines in NY that were modified after the SAFE Act or bought already blocked at the ranges I've frequented. It's not going to draw attention on its own, but are you willing to hire an expensive lawyer to defend it if it comes to that?
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Posted: 2/15/2018 2:32:55 PM EDT
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Bushmaster sells dedicated 5rd mags marked .450bm/458socom/50beowolf, they look like 20rd AR mags except for the markings & sled like follower, very expensive, but i think I'll purchase a few of these mags & not push my luck.
I plan on popping my 458 Socom upper (from the ar15.com group buy way way back) on my ares SCR lower & seeing how it goes. |
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Posted: 2/16/2018 2:47:43 AM EDT
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You can use the .50 Beowulf mags that Alexander Arms sells. They are steel and made by E-Lander, are only $27.72 and come in 4, 7 and 10rds. The old 7 rd mags were marked. I do not know about these.
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Posted: 2/16/2018 7:59:04 AM EDT
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I'm sure you're going to explain the difference when the DEC and NYSP come for you like those guys they arrested for shooting ARs in western NY
remember when the state police made a guy with a pump action slide fire come into the station house and prove why they shouldn't confiscate his gun? You think they'll see what looks like a 30 and let you go |
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Posted: 2/16/2018 8:14:57 AM EDT
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.458 Socom mags, different follower than 5.56, labeled floorplate that says .458 Socom. Legal in NY? |
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Posted: 2/16/2018 1:29:43 PM EDT
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If it will function normally as a high(>10 rd) cap 5.56 mag it's an illegal item to possess.
IMO it's that simple(retarded but simple) |
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Posted: 2/16/2018 1:42:27 PM EDT
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If it will function normally as a high(>10 rd) cap 5.56 mag it's an illegal item to possess. IMO it's that simple(retarded but simple) And the law says nothing about it "functioning" - just that it can ACCEPT more than 10 rounds. So I guess a 5 round .308 mag can hold what? About 50 rounds of .22lr? Guess those are illegal now too... It is 100% not that simple. If we go by your interpretation, then ALL mags are banned. Which hell - that could be correct. |
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Posted: 2/16/2018 1:57:14 PM EDT
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This is really getting ridiculous, even for a New Yorker, its getting like the cold war era eastern block here. Only thing that can save us is a couple more SCOTUS appointments by Trump.
I can't wait to escape. |
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Posted: 2/16/2018 3:23:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Shit so every .40 cal glock mag is illegal in NYS now? And the law says nothing about it "functioning" - just that it can ACCEPT more than 10 rounds. So I guess a 5 round .308 mag can hold what? About 50 rounds of .22lr? Guess those are illegal now too... It is 100% not that simple. If we go by your interpretation, then ALL mags are banned. Which hell - that could be correct. I think a 10 round 40 cal glock mag is illegal as the law is written. With a stubborn DA, to walk you'd need the judge to rule the law unconstitutionally stupid. |
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Posted: 2/16/2018 3:25:14 PM EDT
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This is really getting ridiculous, even for a New Yorker, its getting like the cold war era eastern block here. Only thing that can save us is a couple more SCOTUS appointments by Trump. I can't wait to escape. 
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Posted: 2/16/2018 3:28:09 PM EDT
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Of course it has to function as an ammunition feeding device to legally be an ammunition feeding device. Otherwise the 50 round cardboard box rounds come in would be illegal. I think a 10 round 40 cal glock mag is illegal as the law is written. With a stubborn DA, to walk you'd need the judge to rule the law unconstitutionally stupid. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Shit so every .40 cal glock mag is illegal in NYS now? And the law says nothing about it "functioning" - just that it can ACCEPT more than 10 rounds. So I guess a 5 round .308 mag can hold what? About 50 rounds of .22lr? Guess those are illegal now too... It is 100% not that simple. If we go by your interpretation, then ALL mags are banned. Which hell - that could be correct. I think a 10 round 40 cal glock mag is illegal as the law is written. With a stubborn DA, to walk you'd need the judge to rule the law unconstitutionally stupid. What if I have a 30 round AR mag, with no spring in it? Technically that doesn't "function" so is it then legal? I don't think so. The best bet of overturning the unSAFE act is to prove that ALL mags are illegal. Especially 40 cal glock mags, 40 cal beretta mags, 5 round .458 mags etc. Oh and that 5 round tubular shotgun you own? Probably holds 12 mini shot shells. So that makes ALL shotguns in NYS illegal now. Gotta show how crazy they law and logic is. |
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Posted: 2/16/2018 3:33:59 PM EDT
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IMO, If the State police, DEC or any form of law enforcement for that matter, catches you with a 20/30 round mag, that will accept and function properly with over 10 rounds of 223/556 ammo, you're screwed. I don't thinks its going to make a difference what the mag says on it. I don't think anyone knows the real answer, I guess it's just a matter of how much time and money you're willing to spend to find out. The laws suck and again, this is just my opinion.
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Posted: 2/16/2018 3:35:09 PM EDT
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IMO, If the State police, DEC or any form of law enforcement for that matter, catches you with a 20/30 round mag, that will accept and function properly with over 10 rounds of 223/556 ammo, you're screwed. I don't thinks its going to make a difference what the mag says on it. I don't think anyone knows the real answer, I guess it's just a matter of how much time and money you're willing to spend to find out. The laws suck and again, this is just my opinion. If they do, it's the fastest path to SCOTUS if you as me. |
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Posted: 2/16/2018 3:41:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I agree...but the NYSP better be willing to declare all .40 cal glock mags and beretta mags and all shotguns illegal in NYS then. If they do, it's the fastest path to SCOTUS if you as me. |
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Posted: 2/23/2018 6:53:11 PM EDT
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Someone makes single stack followers for .458 SOCOM and such that fit standard 30rd mags and make them non functional with .223 rounds: smaller rounds are just ejected if loaded... these were originally designed for CA shooters.
Not a legal advice. |
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Posted: 4/17/2018 4:54:53 AM EDT
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If it will function normally as a high(>10 rd) cap 5.56 mag it's an illegal item to possess. 0 IMO it's that simple(retarded but simple) |
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Posted: 4/17/2018 8:12:07 AM EDT
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Remember when the state police made a guy with a pump action slide fire come into the station house and prove why they shouldn't confiscate his gun? You think they'll see what looks like a 30 and let you go |
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Posted: 4/18/2018 7:05:32 AM EDT
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Why poke the Bear.
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