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Posted: 6/4/2021 2:26:22 PM EDT
[#1]
Turns out this week most of the legislators offices are closed for the week, so I do not expect the governor to sign HB 1927 until early next week. I think there will be some sort of ceremonial signing.
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Posted: 6/4/2021 8:43:45 PM EDT
[#2]
still hasn't signed it |
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Posted: 6/5/2021 9:46:52 AM EDT
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still hasn't signed it With a tweet like that, it would be political suicide not to at this point. |
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Posted: 6/7/2021 11:23:36 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/7/2021 11:26:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Unless I'm badly mistaken, today makes ten days since HB-1927 hit Abbott's desk.  https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/16397/10thday-2_JPG-1970374.JPG Perhaps he is keeping a promise to Gun Control Groups that he would not sign the bill into law. |
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Posted: 6/7/2021 11:51:44 AM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Unless I'm badly mistaken, today makes ten days since HB-1927 hit Abbott's desk. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/16397/10thday-2_JPG-1970374.JPG The 28th DOES NOT COUNT, it was sent over late on the 28th. Also it would depend if holidays count. This last week most legislators were back home after adjournment on Saturday evening, and Abbott may ask Schaefer and Schwertner to the signing. The only way HB 1927 would not go into law is Abbott would HAVE TO VETO the bill. If it sits on his desk it becomes law. |
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Posted: 6/7/2021 11:53:25 AM EDT
[#7]
Be rather disappointing if he doesn't sign it publicly.
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Posted: 6/7/2021 12:45:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The 28th DOES NOT COUNT, it was sent over late on the 28th. Also it would depend if holidays count. This last week most legislators were back home after adjournment on Saturday evening, and Abbott may ask Schaefer and Schwertner to the signing. The only way HB 1927 would not go into law is Abbott would HAVE TO VETO the bill. If it sits on his desk it becomes law. From another forum: Because the bill was sent within 10 days of final adjournment of the lege, he has 20 days after final adjournment to act; this deadline will be June 20th. If not action taken, on June 21st it will become law with an effective date of Sept 1, 2021. |
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Posted: 6/7/2021 12:50:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: From another forum: Because the bill was sent within 10 days of final adjournment of the lege, he has 20 days after final adjournment to act; this deadline will be June 20th. If not action taken, on June 21st it will become law with an effective date of Sept 1, 2021. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The 28th DOES NOT COUNT, it was sent over late on the 28th. Also it would depend if holidays count. This last week most legislators were back home after adjournment on Saturday evening, and Abbott may ask Schaefer and Schwertner to the signing. The only way HB 1927 would not go into law is Abbott would HAVE TO VETO the bill. If it sits on his desk it becomes law. From another forum: Because the bill was sent within 10 days of final adjournment of the lege, he has 20 days after final adjournment to act; this deadline will be June 20th. If not action taken, on June 21st it will become law with an effective date of Sept 1, 2021. If it is 20 days after adjournment then he has till June 18th, since they adjourned on 5/29. So far Abbott has only vetoed one bill, signed just under 400 bills. |
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Posted: 6/7/2021 12:54:58 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If it is 20 days after adjournment then he has till June 18th, since they adjourned on 5/29. Well obviously that was not a Math Forum I got it from. |
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Posted: 6/7/2021 12:57:50 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Well obviously that was not a Math Forum I got it from. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: If it is 20 days after adjournment then he has till June 18th, since they adjourned on 5/29. Well obviously that was not a Math Forum I got it from. Just counted on my calendar. Since the Senate met on 5/31, the final date would be 6/20. |
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Posted: 6/7/2021 1:10:32 PM EDT
[#12]
He's signing other bills right now, according to a tweet by Tan Parker.
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Posted: 6/7/2021 1:26:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He's signing other bills right now, according to a tweet by Tan Parker. If you want to see if it was signed today go to TLO, find reports and you will see a ‘signed by governor’ and ‘vetoed by governor’ When I’m on my IPad it sucks posting links, but will post a link later this afternoon. |
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Posted: 6/7/2021 2:29:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you want to see if it was signed today go to TLO, find reports and you will see a ‘signed by governor’ and ‘vetoed by governor’ When I’m on my IPad it sucks posting links, but will post a link later this afternoon. I got u fam https://capitol.texas.gov/Reports/Report.aspx?LegSess=87R&ID=signedbygov https://capitol.texas.gov/Reports/Report.aspx?LegSess=87R&ID=vetoedbygov |
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Posted: 6/7/2021 2:38:48 PM EDT
[#15]
Here's a direct link to the 'stages' view of HB 1927. This is just a quick look at where it currently stands and the next stage.
HB 1927 |
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Posted: 6/7/2021 3:24:46 PM EDT
[#16]
Is Abbott making it purposely easier for him to be primaried by waiting to sign it?
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Posted: 6/7/2021 3:58:19 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Is Abbott making it purposely easier for him to be primaried by waiting to sign it? If you think this is the case, then prove it. Go look up previous sessions and find the average amount of time taken between the Legislature passing a bill and the governor signing it. Then show that the amount of time between when HB1927 passed and now is out of the ordinary. Don't wimp out with some lame "I'm just asking questions" excuse. Do the work. I'll be waiting. |
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Posted: 6/7/2021 4:16:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: If you want to see if it was signed today go to TLO, find reports and you will see a ‘signed by governor’ and ‘vetoed by governor’ When I’m on my IPad it sucks posting links, but will post a link later this afternoon. I got u fam https://capitol.texas.gov/Reports/Report.aspx?LegSess=87R&ID=signedbygov https://capitol.texas.gov/Reports/Report.aspx?LegSess=87R&ID=vetoedbygov Thanks! If you look SB 19 and SB 20 have not been signed into law either. As long as a bill is not vetoed it not a big deal. |
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Posted: 6/7/2021 4:58:58 PM EDT
[#19]
As before, there is zero reason to think that Gov. Abbott, who said he would sign CC and issued a statement about "getting it done" while the bill was being worked out in conference committee, is either going to veto it or even not sign it and let it pass.
I expect he'll have a nice signing ceremony for all the pro-gun bills at once, and use it in his re-election - as he should. Abbott's been good on guns, and should be supported by us. |
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Posted: 6/7/2021 5:09:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is Abbott making it purposely easier for him to be primaried by waiting to sign it? Apparently Alan West just resigned from his position with the state GOP. Looking to primary Abbot, I guess. I don't see Abbot passing on such a golden opportunity to get some easy 2A cred. Just be patient, I'm sure he's just busy. |
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Posted: 6/7/2021 5:24:07 PM EDT
[#21]
Seems foolish - he's only been in that job for a little bit, and came from another state for it. So looks like a job hunter, not someone who wants to accomplish conservative goals.
Primary challenges against sitting governors are pretty much a fool's errand. Abbott's not going to lose a primary race - I know some folks are mad at him for not pushing back more against the Wuhan Virus hysteria, but most of us don't fully appreciate the media - entertainment complex's ability to drive the narrative that they wish. Media types wanted the virus to be the second coming of the Black Death and hyped it to high levels. He did a decent job during it all. |
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Posted: 6/7/2021 6:04:30 PM EDT
[#22]
He does have his hands full with the border plus all the bills he has to sign.
I think the delay is that he doesn’t want to just sign it like housekeeping bills. He will probably want to make a show of it. Give it time. It will happen. Patience. |
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Posted: 6/7/2021 7:54:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Seems foolish - he's only been in that job for a little bit, and came from another state for it. So looks like a job hunter, not someone who wants to accomplish conservative goals. Primary challenges against sitting governors are pretty much a fool's errand. Abbott's not going to lose a primary race - I know some folks are mad at him for not pushing back more against the Wuhan Virus hysteria, but most of us don't fully appreciate the media - entertainment complex's ability to drive the narrative that they wish. Media types wanted the virus to be the second coming of the Black Death and hyped it to high levels. He did a decent job during it all. Abbott wasn’t big time stupid like Cuomo, Newscum or Stretchin’ Gretchen. The problem is in the second largest state with 4 of the 10 largest cities in the country, and their insane mayors and county judges. Just in Travis county when the numbers ticked up and the media would have gone after Abbott big time if he had done nothing. Abbott had to thread a very fine needle to keep all parties kind of at bay. |
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Posted: 6/7/2021 8:37:36 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Apparently Alan West just resigned from his position with the state GOP. Looking to primary Abbot, I guess. I don't see Abbot passing on such a golden opportunity to get some easy 2A cred. Just be patient, I'm sure he's just busy. I saw somewhere the other day West was also considering a house seat. We shall see. |
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Posted: 6/7/2021 9:11:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The 28th DOES NOT COUNT, it was sent over late on the 28th. Also it would depend if holidays count. This last week most legislators were back home after adjournment on Saturday evening, and Abbott may ask Schaefer and Schwertner to the signing. The only way HB 1927 would not go into law is Abbott would HAVE TO VETO the bill. If it sits on his desk it becomes law. He signed some fucking retarded racing bill in a drag car. Hot wheels needs to sign this fucking bill before he commits political suicide. |
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Posted: 6/7/2021 10:36:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Abbott wasn’t big time stupid like Cuomo, Newscum or Stretchin’ Gretchen. The problem is in the second largest state with 4 of the 10 largest cities in the country, and their insane mayors and county judges. Just in Travis county when the numbers ticked up and the media would have gone after Abbott big time if he had done nothing. Abbott had to thread a very fine needle to keep all parties kind of at bay. He caved, plain and simple. He could have set the example and let freedom reign. |
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Posted: 6/8/2021 2:42:23 AM EDT
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lol....Kids....they're so cute.
Ahhh..... such a reminder and fond memories here from when I was 9 years old; I remember hours would pass as I waited, and waited, and waited, all day long for my father to come home from work until that moment when he would arrive at the door, I could run up to him to ask him all excited "Daddy, daddy, did you remember to get those firecrackers from your friend at work?" He'd say "No son. I was busy with many other things at work. I'll do it tomorrow". Rinse and repeat the same anxious wait, day-after-day, for what seemed like an eternity..... lol. Don't know how some of you kids will survive until Daddy Abbott brings you your firecrackers. |
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Posted: 6/8/2021 9:57:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: lol....Kids....they're so cute. Ahhh..... such a reminder and fond memories here from when I was 9 years old; I remember hours would pass as I waited, and waited, and waited, all day long for my father to come home from work until that moment when he would arrive at the door, I could run up to him to ask him all excited "Daddy, daddy, did you remember to get those firecrackers from your friend at work?" He'd say "No son. I was busy with many other things at work. I'll do it tomorrow". Rinse and repeat the same anxious wait, day-after-day, for what seemed like an eternity..... lol. Don't know how some of you kids will survive until Daddy Abbott brings you your firecrackers. Best ever, thanks for a perfect perspective on this thread! |
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Posted: 6/8/2021 6:38:44 PM EDT
[#29]
What we have is 10 or 20 days of Bloomturd pressure on Abbott to veto the bill. That same period of time is not seeing the same from our side I fear.
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Posted: 6/8/2021 6:58:52 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What we have is 10 or 20 days of Bloomturd pressure on Abbott to veto the bill. That same period of time is not seeing the same from our side I fear. The governor has 20 days after the legislature adjourns to sign, or veto any bills. If he does not veto a bill it becomes law. The Senate adjourned on 5/31. So far none of the gun bills have been signed into law. Also Abbott has only vetoed one bill. |
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Posted: 6/8/2021 9:32:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The governor has 20 days after the legislature adjourns to sign, or veto any bills. If he does not veto a bill it becomes law. The Senate adjourned on 5/31. So far none of the gun bills have been signed into law. Also Abbott has only vetoed one bill. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What we have is 10 or 20 days of Bloomturd pressure on Abbott to veto the bill. That same period of time is not seeing the same from our side I fear. The governor has 20 days after the legislature adjourns to sign, or veto any bills. If he does not veto a bill it becomes law. The Senate adjourned on 5/31. So far none of the gun bills have been signed into law. Also Abbott has only vetoed one bill. I understand but the Bloomies aren't stupid. Why pay tons of lobbyists to chase around fifty legislators for two months when you can avoid the traffic and go right to the source. |
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Posted: 6/8/2021 9:53:05 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I understand but the Bloomies aren't stupid. Why pay tons of lobbyists to chase around fifty legislators for two months when you can avoid the traffic and go right to the source. Do you believe he'll veto it? I mean, nothing is impossible I suppose but that would be the end of him. I'll be disappointed if he doesn't host a huge signing ceremony, I can't see him just letting it go into law without putting his name on it and trying to own it. |
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Posted: 6/8/2021 9:56:08 PM EDT
[#33]
A question for you guys who track the number of bills passed. How many does he have to sign, several hundred at least?
If he has aspirations for any higher office or to keep this one for any amount of time, vetoing this bill is political suicide. Does it matter if he signs it tomorrow, or waits and signs all of the 2nd amendment bills at one time in a big F You to Xiden? He knows if he doesn't sign it, it becomes law anyway and will hurt him politically as much as if he had vetoed it. However it passes, it doesn't go into effect until September 1st. Are you going to bitch about that too? |
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Posted: 6/8/2021 10:01:19 PM EDT
[#34]
He's not going to veto a bill that he's repeatedly stated that he'd sign. That would be political suicide, and he's not politically suicidal.
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Posted: 6/8/2021 10:24:32 PM EDT
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Guys I'm not making any predictions here at all. MASSIVE effort on the part of many here got us to this point. I'm just a cynic by nature when it comes to politics. The unknown here is just HOW MUCH MONEY is being wielded in this appx. 20 day window. Beto? Cornyn? Soros? Bloomberg? NONE of us here have ANY stroke with the Governor personally I suspect. The "game" is much larger for some people if you see the additional areas of control that can be achieved if turning Texas Blue can happen. Guns are just a part of the picture. ALL of the people I just mentioned have Abbotts cell#. Please understand that I am TRULY hopeful that HB1927 becomes law and is implemented on Sept. 1/21.
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Posted: 6/8/2021 10:34:45 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Guys I'm not making any predictions here at all. MASSIVE effort on the part of many here got us to this point. I'm just a cynic by nature when it comes to politics. The unknown here is just HOW MUCH MONEY is being wielded in this appx. 20 day window. Beto? Cornyn? Soros? Bloomberg? NONE of us here have ANY stroke with the Governor personally I suspect. The "game" is much larger for some people if you see the additional areas of control that can be achieved if turning Texas Blue can happen. Guns are just a part of the picture. ALL of the people I just mentioned have Abbotts cell#. Please understand that I am TRULY hopeful that HB1927 becomes law and is implemented on Sept. 1/21. the bolded segment is exactly where my head is at. I don't think he'll veto it, but I'd much rather see him sign it than let his veto power expire so it becomes law on 9/1. I'm not necessarily bitching, but the longer he waits the more nervous I am about shit that is going on behind the scenes that are out of our sight. |
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Posted: 6/8/2021 10:49:35 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Guys I'm not making any predictions here at all. MASSIVE effort on the part of many here got us to this point. I'm just a cynic by nature when it comes to politics. The unknown here is just HOW MUCH MONEY is being wielded in this appx. 20 day window. Beto? Cornyn? Soros? Bloomberg? NONE of us here have ANY stroke with the Governor personally I suspect. The "game" is much larger for some people if you see the additional areas of control that can be achieved if turning Texas Blue can happen. Guns are just a part of the picture. ALL of the people I just mentioned have Abbotts cell#. Please understand that I am TRULY hopeful that HB1927 becomes law and is implemented on Sept. 1/21. My speculation: Abbott's aspiration is another term as governor. Then go for a Senate seat if he wants to when Cornyn finishes his term and retires. So signing all the pro-gun bills in the next few days or week will at least give him a much better chance to his goal AND he will make $$$ along the way until he decides to retire. Getting $$$ from Bloomturd and the likes is possible, but then Abbott is done politically. Then again, how much money are we talking about to change Abbott's mind??? $20 mil, 50 mil, 100mil??? Abbott will sign HR 1927 and other pro-gun bills. Be patience, guys. |
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Posted: 6/10/2021 11:38:23 PM EDT
[#38]
Since the gun bills went to the Governor shortly before the session ended, and thus there's extra time to sign them before they become law anyway, it would make sense to prioritize on signing the bills with a shorter time frame.
Should happen next week I'd guess, or the start of the week after - it all depends on the best timing for signing various bills. Lots to coordinate between legislators, lobbyists, PAC's and donors, etc. |
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Posted: 6/11/2021 5:23:15 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It was 25 years since the Neal Knox attempted take over and WLP changing bylaws to restrict how people could be nominated to the NRA board, which was done in Dallas in 2018. I think the NRA would have been a lot better shape under Neal Knox. Having read a lot of his columns and he had a better grasp of politics than WLP and most NRA board members. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Hopefully not in the cesspool we are currently in. Wayne and company wasted no time changing the bylaws so that he and the executive board could not be voted out by the rabble. It was 25 years since the Neal Knox attempted take over and WLP changing bylaws to restrict how people could be nominated to the NRA board, which was done in Dallas in 2018. I think the NRA would have been a lot better shape under Neal Knox. Having read a lot of his columns and he had a better grasp of politics than WLP and most NRA board members. WLP ran Knox out on a rail immediately after the bylaw was passed making the Executive Vice President (WLP) no longer subject to election by the membership, but rather by the board instead. For years He controlled who was voted onto the board by putting "Do not vote for..." proclamations on the pages surrounding the ballots in American Rifleman. Frankly that should have been a clue. I'm also more than a little surprised that those didn't make a come back a few years ago to deal with the growing number of people who weren't down for the scam but were getting elected anyway. Speaking of which, did the NRA even hold an election for board members this year? I don't think I got a ballot, I don't get the magazine and am ignoring most crap they send me, but I am an endowment member. |
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Posted: 6/11/2021 7:41:12 AM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Speaking of which, did the NRA even hold an election for board members this year? I don't think I got a ballot, I don't get the magazine and am ignoring most crap they send me, but I am an endowment member. I just got a ballot last week. |
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Posted: 6/11/2021 9:22:01 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: WLP ran Knox out on a rail immediately after the bylaw was passed making the Executive Vice President (WLP) no longer subject to election by the membership, but rather by the board instead. For years He controlled who was voted onto the board by putting "Do not vote for..." proclamations on the pages surrounding the ballots in American Rifleman. Frankly that should have been a clue. I'm also more than a little surprised that those didn't make a come back a few years ago to deal with the growing number of people who weren't down for the scam but were getting elected anyway. Speaking of which, did the NRA even hold an election for board members this year? I don't think I got a ballot, I don't get the magazine and am ignoring most crap they send me, but I am an endowment member. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Hopefully not in the cesspool we are currently in. Wayne and company wasted no time changing the bylaws so that he and the executive board could not be voted out by the rabble. It was 25 years since the Neal Knox attempted take over and WLP changing bylaws to restrict how people could be nominated to the NRA board, which was done in Dallas in 2018. I think the NRA would have been a lot better shape under Neal Knox. Having read a lot of his columns and he had a better grasp of politics than WLP and most NRA board members. WLP ran Knox out on a rail immediately after the bylaw was passed making the Executive Vice President (WLP) no longer subject to election by the membership, but rather by the board instead. For years He controlled who was voted onto the board by putting "Do not vote for..." proclamations on the pages surrounding the ballots in American Rifleman. Frankly that should have been a clue. I'm also more than a little surprised that those didn't make a come back a few years ago to deal with the growing number of people who weren't down for the scam but were getting elected anyway. Speaking of which, did the NRA even hold an election for board members this year? I don't think I got a ballot, I don't get the magazine and am ignoring most crap they send me, but I am an endowment member. I got my ballot yesterday, but why send it in? There have been a bunch of bylaw ‘changes’ that force out more and more board members who don’t tow the WLP/MH line. The NRA no longer has to put out ‘don’t vote for’ statements, that person will never get nominated. Also WLP/MH made it very hard for anyone to want to be on the board, where if someone sues the NRA and the board members (very common) the NRA’s insurance/law firm will not protect the board members. You could be bankrupted just being on the board. Why do you think a few years ago so many people resigned from the board. |
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Posted: 6/11/2021 11:25:57 AM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Since the gun bills went to the Governor shortly before the session ended, and thus there's extra time to sign them before they become law anyway, it would make sense to prioritize on signing the bills with a shorter time frame. Should happen next week I'd guess, or the start of the week after - it all depends on the best timing for signing various bills. Lots to coordinate between legislators, lobbyists, PAC's and donors, etc. Another thread said he will sign all of the gun bills next Thursday. I have no idea where he got that info. |
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Posted: 6/11/2021 4:34:42 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/11/2021 8:13:33 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuote HistoryFrom there - “When is the Governor going to sign Constitutional Carry?” We understand that you are all anxious to see these bills signed. We’re thrilled to let you know that Governor Abbott has announced that he will be signing these priority bills (including Constitutional Carry) next week at a special signing ceremony. |
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Posted: 6/12/2021 12:07:41 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: From there - Good times - figured that all the gun bills would be signed at once, and with a nice ceremony about it. Still smiling over this huge win, and the depth of all the pro-gun bills that were passed this year. It was a fantastic session for gun rights. |
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Posted: 6/12/2021 5:36:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Good times - figured that all the gun bills would be signed at once, and with a nice ceremony about it. Still smiling over this huge win, and the depth of all the pro-gun bills that were passed this year. It was a fantastic session for gun rights. Talk about Flipping a HUGE Finger in the Face of the Democrats ...  LOL!! 
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Posted: 6/12/2021 7:07:57 PM EDT
[#47]
Exactly. Nanny Doomberg spend millions of dollars to infest this state with more elected Democrats. But instead his plans fizzled like his presidential run, and Texas had the most pro-gun session in its history, and of any state this year.
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Posted: 6/12/2021 8:10:57 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Exactly. Nanny Doomberg spend millions of dollars to infest this state with more elected Democrats. But instead his plans fizzled like his presidential run, and Texas had the most pro-gun session in its history, and of any state this year. In the House and Senate the Democrats gained no seats, but the Republicans lost a few RINO’s but gained quite some very strong pro 2A supporters. Even in the Federal election the Republicans gained quite a few in the house. Now we need to get rid of some of the DUMBocrats that stole Republican seats in 2018 under the ‘Beto Effect’ |
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Posted: 6/14/2021 10:48:03 AM EDT
[#49]
Any idea of what day this week the signing is?
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Posted: 6/14/2021 11:14:28 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Any idea of what day this week the signing is? Not sure of what day yet. Someone what talking about Thursday, but that has never been confirmed. Best bet is to sign up for GOA text alerts. |
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