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Posted: 4/11/2022 10:31:07 PM EDT
So, first time checking a firearm at MCO WTF, perp walk to TSA from the Southwest counter.
In NOLA, you tag and drop your case off like anything else, except you put the little property tag in. The lady at the counter acted like it was normal |
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[#1]
Same shit at TPA when I flew to Vegas the night before Thanksgiving. Return flight from Vegas just dropped my bag off with the ticket agent.
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[#2]
Every airport has different procedures and even the airlines vary with how they handle it.
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[#3]
It's not a perp walk. It's actually the best way to check your firearms, because they get special handling the whole way, far less likely to be lost long the way.
Where were you flying too, and did your bag come out separately upon your arrival? |
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[#4]
Quoted: It's not a perp walk. It's actually the best way to check your firearms, because they get special handling the whole way, far less likely to be lost long the way. Where were you flying too, and did your bag come out separately upon your arrival? View Quote I didn't notice any special handling other than a sticker and a pamphlet in the case. I did notice having to be escorted down an elevator and across the airport to a TSA check center instead of the fine folks at the airline taking care of it. Seems like a hassle to me, but if it's what you're accustomed to I guess it doesn't. |
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[#5]
The advantage is you drop it at that location and it gets scanned IMMEDIATELY so if there is a problem you are standing right there.
Or they could feed it into the baggage system, if there is a problem they can call you back from your gate and you can go through security twice. |
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[#6]
Everywhere I’ve checked one has had me accompany the bag to the scanning area. MCO has been one of the easier ones usually.
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[#7]
The last time I went with checked firearms I went downstairs into the TSA screening room at MCO.
Never had issues. |
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[#8]
Well, last night was fun flying out of MSY.
Learned an important lesson; laptop and firearms need to be in different bags. TSA also doesn't know their own rules, and I'll keep extra locks just in case next time. Long story short, they "have to" check every checked laptop so they cut the locks off. When they saw the firearm, cue the "it was at this moment he knew he fucked up" music, and I got a frantic call from SW telling me TSA needed the key for the lock they found inside my pelican case because they now have an unsecured firearm and need a way to lock it. Total shit show. Fuck TSA. |
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[#9]
MCO has been hit or miss sometimes. Ive had it just get opened at the counter and place the tag inside and they put it on the belt. I have also had to walk it down stairs to get looked at in the little secure room while I watched. Nothing is ever the same and they never know their own rules.
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[#10]
I rather go with the bag and be there when they check it. I recently flew JFK to SFO and back. At JFK they called TSA and told them a bag with a firearm was coming down and it went on the belt. At SFO they walked me to TSA and I watched as they rummaged thru my suitcase and swabbed everything including the inside of the gun case for explosives.
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[#11]
I flew out of Orlando last week up to Chicago O’Hare. The process at MCO was ridiculously more complex than returning through ORD.
The United reps at O’Hare were much more accommodating and FAST, than those reps at the Orlando counter. Fucking opposite world here! |
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[#12]
Quoted: I rather go with the bag and be there when they check it. I recently flew JFK to SFO and back. At JFK they called TSA and told them a bag with a firearm was coming down and it went on the belt. At SFO they walked me to TSA and I watched as they rummaged thru my suitcase and swabbed everything including the inside of the gun case for explosives. View Quote Did it come up positive? |
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[#13]
Quoted: I flew out of Orlando last week up to Chicago O’Hare. The process at MCO was ridiculously more complex than returning through ORD. The United reps at O’Hare were much more accommodating and FAST, than those reps at the Orlando counter. Fucking opposite world here! View Quote Any tips to getting through the process at MCO? I'm going to be flying United out of MCO in about a month, and I want to be prepared. I know that the rules say I am supposed to put my handgun (unloaded) in a locked case in my luggage with ammo separate/in original boxes. Are there any extra complications on top of this? |
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[#14]
Quoted: Any tips to getting through the process at MCO? I'm going to be flying United out of MCO in about a month, and I want to be prepared. I know that the rules say I am supposed to put my handgun (unloaded) in a locked case in my luggage with ammo separate/in original boxes. Are there any extra complications on top of this? View Quote |
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[#15]
Quoted: Any tips to getting through the process at MCO? I'm going to be flying United out of MCO in about a month, and I want to be prepared. I know that the rules say I am supposed to put my handgun (unloaded) in a locked case in my luggage with ammo separate/in original boxes. Are there any extra complications on top of this? View Quote Leaving ammo in the magazine can be hit or miss. In the factory box or an ammo case of some sort (like the MTM plastic cases) might save you some hassle. |
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[#16]
Quoted: Leaving ammo in the magazine can be hit or miss. In the factory box or an ammo case of some sort (like the MTM plastic cases) might save you some hassle. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Any tips to getting through the process at MCO? I'm going to be flying United out of MCO in about a month, and I want to be prepared. I know that the rules say I am supposed to put my handgun (unloaded) in a locked case in my luggage with ammo separate/in original boxes. Are there any extra complications on top of this? Leaving ammo in the magazine can be hit or miss. In the factory box or an ammo case of some sort (like the MTM plastic cases) might save you some hassle. This^. |
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[#17]
Quoted: Leaving ammo in the magazine can be hit or miss. In the factory box or an ammo case of some sort (like the MTM plastic cases) might save you some hassle. View Quote IIRC, in the magazine is supposed to be fine as long as they are in a pouch that covered the rounds. But I’ve always used a factory box so I didn’t have to worry about whether it was going to cause an issue. |
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[#18]
I liked it here when TSA would scan your bags in front of you, that was a long time ago. CLT would make you wait at the counter, then tell you it was okay, same time frame though. I've UPS'd my pistol to myself.
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[#19]
Quoted: IIRC, in the magazine is supposed to be fine as long as they are in a pouch that covered the rounds. But I’ve always used a factory box so I didn’t have to worry about whether it was going to cause an issue. View Quote Small arms ammunition (up to .75 caliber and shotgun shells of any gauge) must be packaged in a fiber (such as cardboard), wood, plastic, or metal box specifically designed to carry ammunition and declared to your airline. So, the argument is a magazine isn't a box... But it also states Firearm magazines and ammunition clips, whether loaded or empty, must be securely boxed or included within a hard-sided case containing an unloaded firearm. But, I'm with you, leave it in a box and save the trouble. Some guys want to go all "Print the rules so you can wave it in their face". |
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[#21]
Quoted: MCO has been hit or miss sometimes. I've had it just get opened at the counter and place the tag inside and they put it on the belt. I have also had to walk it down stairs to get looked at in the little secure room while I watched. Nothing is ever the same and they never know their own rules. View Quote This was my experience with Spirit in 2017. Just placed the tag inside the case, returned it to the suitcase, and away I went. |
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[#22]
I "may" have once been between the runway and taxiway at MCO with 2 pistols and a suppressed AR in my truck, after going through TSA screening. Such high security.
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[#23]
Quoted: I "may" have once been between the runway and taxiway at MCO with 2 pistols and a suppressed AR in my truck, after going through TSA screening. Such high security. View Quote If you were in your truck you weren't screened by TSA. Access to the AOA is controlled by the airport authority and they conduct any searches/screening. |
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[#25]
I'm flying out of MCO this week with my pistol.
What's not clear to me is what type of lock should I bring. I will be putting my pistol case inside my luggage. Do I use a TSA lock for both my suitcase and my luggage, or do I use a padlock for both? Should I just get a set of both and use whatever makes the TSA happy so I can go on my way? |
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[#26]
TSA lock on your bag. Your own real padlock on the pistol case. Also, secure it to the bag if you can. If it's a roller bag and you can run a cable around the support struts. Anything that prevents someone from sliding the pistol case out fast.
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[#28]
I've done it countless time in Tampa without issue. Orlando and Miami are dominated by Yankees and people from the 3rd world who make a big production out of everything. Choose where you travel to carefully
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[#29]
Quoted: I've done it countless time in Tampa without issue. Orlando and Miami are dominated by Yankees and people from the 3rd world who make a big production out of everything. Choose where you travel to carefully View Quote I’ve been pleasantly surprised and not had any significant issues (other than just added time) at any of the airports I’ve flown out of, including Baltimore, both DC Reagan and Dulles, and Denver. |
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[#30]
Quoted: I've been pleasantly surprised and not had any significant issues (other than just added time) at any of the airports I've flown out of, including Baltimore, both DC Reagan and Dulles, and Denver. View Quote Sky Harbor they wanted to swab the case for explosives but was fine otherwise. |
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[#31]
Well I'm flying out of Orlando tomorrow afternoon with my pistol. I'm putting my handgun and ammo in a pelican case and locking it with padlocks, and I've got a cable to secure it to the frame of my suitcase. TSA lock for bag.
I'm praying the TSA doesn't give me any problems- I hate dealing with entitled people that sit behind a desk. I'm flying back from a small airport in Montana, so I doubt I'll have issues with them. If I survive I'll post an AAR. |
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[#32]
I prefer that method at Tampa International. The idea that I should stand around for 15-20 minutes and then leave "if you don't hear your name called over the PA / nobody comes to get you" like they do it in other states/airports, is asinine.
I've flown with checked firearms (either rifle, pistol, or both - of every size and configuration) since I was 17 years old, and I'll be 33 in a few months. You guys that incessantly worry about stuff like this just need to relax, it's not the big deal you're making it out to be and only once or twice have I ever had a desk agent that gave me shit, because I follow airline and TSA regs to the letter on how things are to be packaged and labeled. |
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[#33]
Everything was fairly easy- only snag I had was while picking up my luggage in Orlando.
The people working in the baggage claim office for Delta barely spoke English and had no idea what was going on. There were two other people trying to pickup weapons, and we stood around for over a half hour after everyone else on our flight had gotten their regular luggage. Turns out our "special" bags were sitting on a cart unattended just out of sight from the office but right next to the conveyor belt that was offloading regular luggage. One of the guys waiting on weapons was super pissed because he had a bunch of expensive/NFA stuff in his bag. I guess putting the special CAGPT tag on the bag and wrapping a zip tie around it will protect it from theft, right? |
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Quoted: Everything was fairly easy- only snag I had was while picking up my luggage in Orlando. The people working in the baggage claim office for Delta barely spoke English and had no idea what was going on. There were two other people trying to pickup weapons, and we stood around for over a half hour after everyone else on our flight had gotten their regular luggage. Turns out our "special" bags were sitting on a cart unattended just out of sight from the office but right next to the conveyor belt that was offloading regular luggage. One of the guys waiting on weapons was super pissed because he had a bunch of expensive/NFA stuff in his bag. I guess putting the special CAGPT tag on the bag and wrapping a zip tie around it will protect it from theft, right? View Quote That's odd. My suitcase with a checked weapon came out on the baggage carousel at Philadelphia International (Spirit Airlines). I think when I flew home to Orlando on Frontier they called me to the office to get my suitcase in person. |
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Quoted: That's odd. My suitcase with a checked weapon came out on the baggage carousel at Philadelphia International (Spirit Airlines). I think when I flew home to Orlando on Frontier they called me to the office to get my suitcase in person. View Quote Mine has always come out with all the other baggage on the carousel everywhere I’ve been. |
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Quoted: Everything was fairly easy- only snag I had was while picking up my luggage in Orlando. The people working in the baggage claim office for Delta barely spoke English and had no idea what was going on. There were two other people trying to pickup weapons, and we stood around for over a half hour after everyone else on our flight had gotten their regular luggage. Turns out our "special" bags were sitting on a cart unattended just out of sight from the office but right next to the conveyor belt that was offloading regular luggage. One of the guys waiting on weapons was super pissed because he had a bunch of expensive/NFA stuff in his bag. I guess putting the special CAGPT tag on the bag and wrapping a zip tie around it will protect it from theft, right? View Quote |
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[#37]
You'll find a mixed bag of baggage pick-up results like that depending on the airport you fly into. I've had it both ways upon landing, majority of the time it comes out on the carousel but in more lefty-kind of places you may have it come out on the cart and go straight to the office.
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[#38]
I recently flew to Providence for work on Jet Blue, checking a handgun. I had no issues with the Airport or TSA, but the moron woman at the baggage counter gave me a moment of grief.
She was ADAMANT that I needed a Florida CWP to be able to check my bag. She asked for "my permit", and said that "in Florida, you HAVE to have a permit in order to check a bag." I told her "ma'am, with all due respect, you're simply incorrect. That requirement is NOT listed in either FL law, TSA regulations, or even the Jet Blue website." She reasserted that: "look, I'm not going to argue with you. It's a requirement and you can't check the bag without it." I responded saying that: "Ma'am, are you saying that the thousands of out of state hunters, competitive shooters, and even just defensive minded citizens, traveling to the state with their guns and maybe THEIR state CWPs..... would NOT be able to fly back? Even when they don't live here and it's odd to have a permit in a different state (I know it's not. I have 3 myself...)?" She said yes. I said AGAIN: "ma'am, again, with all due respect, you're simply WRONG. However, lucky for both of us, I HAVE a FL permit, so whatever it takes to get out of here...." She ALSO made me take my laptop out of my checked bag, and stow it in my carryon... again, contrary to actual policy. FFS I HATE the morons in the airport. |
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