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Posted: 11/13/2021 10:55:12 PM EDT
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This is on Florida Carry's list.
Please join us (see my sig) |
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Posted: 11/13/2021 11:29:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is on Florida Carry's list. Please join us (see my sig) So, is it a valid and enforceable policy or not? That's a large site. You could have linked to where the answer would be. |
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Posted: 11/14/2021 1:10:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So, is it a valid and enforceable policy or not? That's a large site. You could have linked to where the answer would be. Sorry, there is no answer there. This problem is something we plan to address. The .gov entity cannot convey a release of the law from the lessee. But it'll have to be fixed in court. |
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Posted: 11/14/2021 12:14:35 PM EDT
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regardless of the fine points of the law, if they challenge you, you can be/will be ejected or arrested. Yeah, you can work it out in court later, but they will win the first encounter.
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Posted: 11/14/2021 4:27:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: regardless of the fine points of the law, if they challenge you, you can be/will be ejected or arrested. Yeah, you can work it out in court later, but they will win the first encounter. Challenge hell, you're not making it two feet past the property line, they have full on TSA going on. The worst I would do is show them my CCW, get an explanation, and be on my merry way some place else. I was just curious if there is any validity since it is owned by the City and not on the no carry list. They even do the employees at the employee entrance. It's not just some bozo with a wand, they have the whole nine yards. Like I said, they have had a dog a few times. This isn't local LE, private company, must cost a fortune. |
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Posted: 11/14/2021 8:20:49 PM EDT
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As stated a court will need to step in. A ruling higher then you & your permit. Either follow or don't go there.
Similar thing happened with the palm beach county fair a few years back. |
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Posted: 11/21/2021 5:09:07 AM EDT
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The FL state fair had a similar situation and lost in court due FS 790.33. You could try taking a copy of the ruling and the statute to the next meeting of the city council and see if they can order a change to come into compliance with the law.
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Posted: 11/23/2021 5:27:21 PM EDT
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The city of St Petersburg let's me carry in the building department, metal detector goes off, declare you're armed, show CWL and walk on in...
Anywhere there isn't a metal detector I just walk in. |
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Posted: 11/23/2021 5:29:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The FL state fair had a similar situation and lost in court due FS 790.33. You could try taking a copy of the ruling and the statute to the next meeting of the city council and see if they can order a change to come into compliance with the law. How does the city get around state preemption on gun laws? Serious question. |
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Posted: 11/23/2021 7:16:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How does the city get around state preemption on gun laws? Serious question. Perhaps because it's managed by a private company? I dunno. I may raise the regulation and State Fair case if I decide to go there or maybe point it out to my City Councilman, who hates me. lol. |
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Posted: 11/23/2021 7:43:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How does the city get around state preemption on gun laws? Serious question. Honest answer? Because they haven't been challenged. The city/county can't convey legal rights they don't have. It just need a case to take to court. |
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Posted: 11/24/2021 1:15:21 PM EDT
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Thanks for the replies.
To be perfectly honest I thought I was going to be a test case the first time I walked into that building department. |
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Posted: 11/27/2021 9:48:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How does the city get around state preemption on gun laws? Serious question. They can't legally, but if they just ignore it with their head in the sand then nothing happens until someone takes them to court. I know a hospital (part of a taxing district) that does the same thing. |
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Posted: 11/28/2021 11:56:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How does the city get around state preemption on gun laws? Serious question. You want my opinion? Because they are ignorant, they just don't know. That isn't an insult directed at them, I mean, I didn't know for sure either. |
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Posted: 11/28/2021 12:02:07 PM EDT
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Seems like we're allowing our rights to be stripped via complacency.
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Posted: 11/29/2021 2:21:09 AM EDT
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Been through this once with a government building and "private" event going on.
I was met with a very assholish cop (Tampa) and his two backup buddies telling me I'm not going in armed and that was that. He said didn't care about pre-emption of government buildings in the law. Story was relayed to Florida carry 5-6 years back right after it happened and was told then that this issue was on the radar. Since then I just deep carry through places I know I'm legally allowed to carry rather than being truthfull with people. |
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