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Posted: 3/10/2023 4:23:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: fyeguy]
Has anyone dealt with a CHL denial in Beaver County? My nephew got an immediate denial based on the Pennsylvania Instant Check System. Looks like it never even made it to NICS.
I don't think he has any form of criminal record. He may have a medical cannabis card, but I am not certain.  Attached File |
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Posted: 3/10/2023 8:49:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: mak0]
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Just FYI, a medical marijuana card makes him a prohibited person and will cause a carry license denial. Card holders are added to PICS and will fail a check. If he is not a medical card holder and has no criminal record he should obviously appeal.
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Posted: 3/11/2023 1:10:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mak0: Just FYI, a medical marijuana card makes him a prohibited person and will cause a carry license denial. Card holders are added to PICS and will fail a check. If he is not a medical card holder and has no criminal record he should obviously appeal. Thanks... he claims no to both. Contacted a lawyer, who told him to appeal, and then come to them once the State provides a reason for the denial. |
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Posted: 3/14/2023 7:09:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fyeguy: Thanks... he claims no to both. Contacted a lawyer, who told him to appeal, and then come to them once the State provides a reason for the denial. He might try filing a FOIA request before the appeal. In the appeal form you agree to the following: "I hereby authorize the Pennsylvania State Police to receive any documents, including mental health documents, as well as physician’s determination relating to commitment, necessary to make a determination with regard to this challenge. I waive any rights to confidentiality in these documents by signing this certification." So you basically allow them to go through your medical and other records to find a reason to deny you without knowing what their reason for denial actually is. I'd want to know their reason for denial before allowing them to go on a fishing expedition. |
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Posted: 3/18/2023 11:26:57 AM EDT
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Just as an aside, PICS queries NICS.
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Posted: 3/27/2023 6:44:17 AM EDT
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There could be any number of reasons for this.
Similar name comes to mind. I met someone that had a hard time getting a gun once because of the instant check. Seems when it got ironed out he had the same name of some hatchet murderer or something. Remember, machines do not think. A while ago when my DL wouldn't scan they could not let me buy a crummy can of beer and I'm 71. I would up getting my beer bought for me by a teenager with a bogus ID that did scan. |
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Posted: 3/27/2023 6:47:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By shaggy: He might try filing a FOIA request before the appeal. In the appeal form you agree to the following: "I hereby authorize the Pennsylvania State Police to receive any documents, including mental health documents, as well as physician’s determination relating to commitment, necessary to make a determination with regard to this challenge. I waive any rights to confidentiality in these documents by signing this certification." So you basically allow them to go through your medical and other records to find a reason to deny you without knowing what their reason for denial actually is. I'd want to know their reason for denial before allowing them to go on a fishing expedition. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By shaggy: Originally Posted By fyeguy: Thanks... he claims no to both. Contacted a lawyer, who told him to appeal, and then come to them once the State provides a reason for the denial. He might try filing a FOIA request before the appeal. In the appeal form you agree to the following: "I hereby authorize the Pennsylvania State Police to receive any documents, including mental health documents, as well as physician’s determination relating to commitment, necessary to make a determination with regard to this challenge. I waive any rights to confidentiality in these documents by signing this certification." So you basically allow them to go through your medical and other records to find a reason to deny you without knowing what their reason for denial actually is. I'd want to know their reason for denial before allowing them to go on a fishing expedition. Yup. And all they have to do is find ONE SINGLE liberal doctor that thinks NOBODY should have a permit and you're screwed. If I were you I'd try and find a simpatico Trooper somewhere and see if he can help. |
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