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Posted: 1/11/2021 10:09:33 AM EST
[Last Edit: 1/11/2021 10:13:36 AM EST by uncle_big_green]
"A right delayed is a right denied."  Even though I felt badly for Sullivan, he's toxic and the loss of his son doesn't excuse his bad deeds.

https://coloradosun.com/2021/01/11/colorado-gun-control-laws-2021-preview/

As JLPettimoreIII would say, "Uhaul time, bud."

ETA - Just saw this minutes after posting.  Here's another Colorado jackass at the federal level.

https://denver.cbslocal.com/2021/01/10/bennet-amazon-parler-social-website/
Link Posted: 1/11/2021 10:48:09 AM EST
While they're all bad, the most insidious of them is the safe storage requirement.

How do you keep a firearm for home defense under "safe storage" requirements?
Link Posted: 1/11/2021 11:10:31 AM EST
[Last Edit: 1/11/2021 11:10:55 AM EST by uncle_big_green]
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Originally Posted By Lothbrok:
While they're all bad, the most insidious of them is the safe storage requirement.

How do you keep a firearm for home defense under "safe storage" requirements?
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Is that a trick question?  

I'm not going to be surprised if people ignore laws that ignore rights.  
Link Posted: 1/11/2021 8:17:59 PM EST
We've had a de facto waiting period for the last 8 or 9 months since background checks have been taking days to complete.  

Many of the people who were buying guns in 2020 were brand new gun owners, and they were buying because they were afraid for their safety during the pandemic and riots.  I wonder what they thought of having to wait several days before they could take their new gun home.

Hopefully, they hated having to wait.  And hopefully, they'll contact their state reps/senators and tell them a waiting period is a bad idea.
Link Posted: 1/12/2021 4:45:00 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Lothbrok:
While they're all bad, the most insidious of them is the safe storage requirement.

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If its in my hand, I consider it safe...for me.

Not so much for the idiot breaking into my house though
Link Posted: 1/12/2021 8:45:00 AM EST
With the property tax increase and more gun control. The millions of Californians will feel right at home.
Link Posted: 1/12/2021 9:31:06 AM EST
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With the property tax increase and more gun control. The millions of Californians will feel right at home.
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Maybe we should start an effort to rename the state to "East Kalifornia."
Link Posted: 1/12/2021 11:02:02 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Lothbrok:
While they're all bad, the most insidious of them is the safe storage requirement.

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I’m still working on you know who to move to the Keys. Care to join me? We can just fish and drink beers for the remainder of our days.
Link Posted: 1/12/2021 11:03:54 AM EST
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Originally Posted By SFENDER:
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Do you have a link to the property tax thing?
Link Posted: 1/12/2021 11:06:33 AM EST
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I’m still working on you know who to move to the Keys. Care to join me? We can just fish and drink beers for the remainder of our days.
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Originally Posted By denverdan:
Originally Posted By Lothbrok:
While they're all bad, the most insidious of them is the safe storage requirement.

How do you keep a firearm for home defense under "safe storage" requirements?


I’m still working on you know who to move to the Keys. Care to join me? We can just fish and drink beers for the remainder of our days.

Hard to be a mountaineer in the keys.

Considering an exit plan ourselves. Not quite there yet, but working on it. You know we’ll come visit the keys though!
Link Posted: 1/12/2021 11:31:36 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Lothbrok:

Hard to be a mountaineer in the keys.

Considering an exit plan ourselves. Not quite there yet, but working on it. You know we’ll come visit the keys though!
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There are job openings for me in western Montana as well. To be totally honest though I’d prefer the Keys. Where are you guys looking?
Link Posted: 1/12/2021 12:20:43 PM EST
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Originally Posted By denverdan:


There are job openings for me in western Montana as well. To be totally honest though I’d prefer the Keys. Where are you guys looking?
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Originally Posted By denverdan:
Originally Posted By Lothbrok:

Hard to be a mountaineer in the keys.

Considering an exit plan ourselves. Not quite there yet, but working on it. You know we’ll come visit the keys though!


There are job openings for me in western Montana as well. To be totally honest though I’d prefer the Keys. Where are you guys looking?

Western MT would be dope!

UT, ID, MT are about the last ones left for us. Gotta be close to rock and ice climbing, mountaineering, and in a place with better gun laws and lower taxes. Lower COL would be a great benefit.
Link Posted: 1/12/2021 12:56:02 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Lothbrok:

Western MT would be dope!

UT, ID, MT are about the last ones left for us. Gotta be close to rock and ice climbing, mountaineering, and in a place with better gun laws and lower taxes. Lower COL would be a great benefit.
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Originally Posted By Lothbrok:
Originally Posted By denverdan:
Originally Posted By Lothbrok:

Hard to be a mountaineer in the keys.

Considering an exit plan ourselves. Not quite there yet, but working on it. You know we’ll come visit the keys though!


There are job openings for me in western Montana as well. To be totally honest though I’d prefer the Keys. Where are you guys looking?

Western MT would be dope!

UT, ID, MT are about the last ones left for us. Gotta be close to rock and ice climbing, mountaineering, and in a place with better gun laws and lower taxes. Lower COL would be a great benefit.


Yeah western Montana is amazing. Unfortunately I think state level gun laws will be a non issue soon. So I guess living somewhere you like is the more important thing.
Link Posted: 1/12/2021 2:59:53 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Lothbrok:

Hard to be a mountaineer in the keys.

Considering an exit plan ourselves. Not quite there yet, but working on it. You know we’ll come visit the keys though!
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Feel free to come to my place in Cheyenne.......
Link Posted: 1/12/2021 6:55:22 PM EST
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Originally Posted By denverdan:


I’m still working on you know who to move to the Keys. Care to join me? We can just fish and drink beers for the remainder of our days.
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I need somewhere with at least a few hills (and cliffs).  I'm thinking AR, TN or KY - maybe WV.  I'm not as familiar with AR, but a friend is moving there and it seems decent.  

I'll come visit in the winter.  Fishing and beer are winners in my book.  I'm guessing that you know who has family here and doesn't want to leave them?  That's not uncommon, but remind her that plane tickets are affordable.
Link Posted: 1/12/2021 6:59:23 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Lothbrok:

Western MT would be dope!

UT, ID, MT are about the last ones left for us. Gotta be close to rock and ice climbing, mountaineering, and in a place with better gun laws and lower taxes. Lower COL would be a great benefit.
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Duuude, I told you that ice is for the cooler and you didn't listen.  

Related to my post above, I want a little warmer weather in a place where I can have a big garden that I don't have to religiously water.  That place will come with more trees, too.  I'll reacclimate to the humidity.  I lived in it for 30+ years.
Link Posted: 1/12/2021 8:11:09 PM EST
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Originally Posted By uncle_big_green:


I need somewhere with at least a few hills (and cliffs).  I'm thinking AR, TN or KY - maybe WV.  I'm not as familiar with AR, but a friend is moving there and it seems decent.  

I'll come visit in the winter.  Fishing and beer are winners in my book.  I'm guessing that you know who has family here and doesn't want to leave them?  That's not uncommon, but remind her that plane tickets are affordable.
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Originally Posted By uncle_big_green:
Originally Posted By denverdan:


I’m still working on you know who to move to the Keys. Care to join me? We can just fish and drink beers for the remainder of our days.


I need somewhere with at least a few hills (and cliffs).  I'm thinking AR, TN or KY - maybe WV.  I'm not as familiar with AR, but a friend is moving there and it seems decent.  

I'll come visit in the winter.  Fishing and beer are winners in my book.  I'm guessing that you know who has family here and doesn't want to leave them?  That's not uncommon, but remind her that plane tickets are affordable.


Haha that’s funny my exact words to her were “planes still fly” she just hates change. We’re both pretty established in our careers but they travel well so to speak.

I just told her I am not staying in Koloradifornia any longer than I have to.
We shall I suppose
Link Posted: 1/12/2021 8:42:19 PM EST
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Originally Posted By uncle_big_green:


Maybe we should start an effort to rename the state to "East Kalifornia."
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Originally Posted By uncle_big_green:
Originally Posted By SFENDER:
With the property tax increase and more gun control. The millions of Californians will feel right at home.


Maybe we should start an effort to rename the state to "East Kalifornia."


Calirado
Link Posted: 1/12/2021 9:49:46 PM EST
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Originally Posted By denverdan:


Haha that’s funny my exact words to her were “planes still fly” she just hates change. We’re both pretty established in our careers but they travel well so to speak.

I just told her I am not staying in Koloradifornia any longer than I have to.
We shall I suppose
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There's another option.  You can just leave the wife with me.  I'll even allow supervised visitations
Link Posted: 1/12/2021 10:03:54 PM EST
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Do you have a link to the property tax thing?
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Originally Posted By SFENDER:
With the property tax increase and more gun control. The millions of Californians will feel right at home.


Do you have a link to the property tax thing?



Link
Link Posted: 1/13/2021 10:42:33 AM EST
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Originally Posted By denverdan:


Haha that’s funny my exact words to her were “planes still fly” she just hates change. We’re both pretty established in our careers but they travel well so to speak.

I just told her I am not staying in Koloradifornia any longer than I have to.
We shall I suppose
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Yeah, i told my wife mid year last year that I was leaving and she could come along or not but she'd have to find someplace to live.

We tried getting permission for her to work from home (in July mind you, since of course 2 weeks of march).  oh no, they wouldn't give it.  Don't care, we moved anyway (although it took longer).  Of course she's still working from home and will be probably forever at this point (cuz fuck the first cocksucker) but ti's way better here.  Some things are cheaper, some things are more expensive, but I don't care.

Not staying in a doomed state (where I was born mind you a long time ago in a world that's totally dead now).  

I saw even Golden has gone crazy and now demanding full electrification.  GOLDEN.  not Boulder, Golden.  The state is doomed, get the fuck out.
Link Posted: 1/13/2021 11:15:34 AM EST
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Originally Posted By BozemanMT:


Yeah, i told my wife mid year last year that I was leaving and she could come along or not but she'd have to find someplace to live.

We tried getting permission for her to work from home (in July mind you, since of course 2 weeks of march).  oh no, they wouldn't give it.  Don't care, we moved anyway (although it took longer).  Of course she's still working from home and will be probably forever at this point (cuz fuck the first cocksucker) but ti's way better here.  Some things are cheaper, some things are more expensive, but I don't care.

Not staying in a doomed state (where I was born mind you a long time ago in a world that's totally dead now).  

I saw even Golden has gone crazy and now demanding full electrification.  GOLDEN.  not Boulder, Golden.  The state is doomed, get the fuck out.
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Originally Posted By denverdan:


Haha that’s funny my exact words to her were “planes still fly” she just hates change. We’re both pretty established in our careers but they travel well so to speak.

I just told her I am not staying in Koloradifornia any longer than I have to.
We shall I suppose


Yeah, i told my wife mid year last year that I was leaving and she could come along or not but she'd have to find someplace to live.

We tried getting permission for her to work from home (in July mind you, since of course 2 weeks of march).  oh no, they wouldn't give it.  Don't care, we moved anyway (although it took longer).  Of course she's still working from home and will be probably forever at this point (cuz fuck the first cocksucker) but ti's way better here.  Some things are cheaper, some things are more expensive, but I don't care.

Not staying in a doomed state (where I was born mind you a long time ago in a world that's totally dead now).  

I saw even Golden has gone crazy and now demanding full electrification.  GOLDEN.  not Boulder, Golden.  The state is doomed, get the fuck out.



So, you went to MT then? I need some ideas
Link Posted: 1/13/2021 7:18:38 PM EST
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Feel free to come to my place in Cheyenne.......
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Originally Posted By Lothbrok:

Hard to be a mountaineer in the keys.

Considering an exit plan ourselves. Not quite there yet, but working on it. You know we’ll come visit the keys though!

Feel free to come to my place in Cheyenne.......

Don’t threaten me with a good time!
Link Posted: 1/13/2021 7:32:23 PM EST
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I'm still working on you know who to move to the Keys. Care to join me? We can just fish and drink beers for the remainder of our days.
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Originally Posted By denverdan:
Originally Posted By SFENDER:
With the property tax increase and more gun control. The millions of Californians will feel right at home.


Do you have a link to the property tax thing?



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Here's another link with estimations for Denver
Link Posted: 1/15/2021 5:36:28 AM EST
Originally Posted By uncle_big_green:
"A right delayed is a right denied."  Even though I felt badly for Sullivan, he's toxic and the loss of his son doesn't excuse his bad deeds.

https://coloradosun.com/2021/01/11/colorado-gun-control-laws-2021-preview/

As JLPettimoreIII would say, "Uhaul time, bud."

ETA - Just saw this minutes after posting.  Here's another Colorado jackass at the federal level.

https://denver.cbslocal.com/2021/01/10/bennet-amazon-parler-social-website/
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God I hate that turd.
Link Posted: 1/15/2021 6:00:33 PM EST
Are you guys talking about FL keys?  Might want to stand by:

Link Posted: 1/15/2021 8:22:33 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Kisara:
Are you guys talking about FL keys?  Might want to stand by:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbeqwqWiq1Q
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The Keys are my thing. I personally believe we’re gonna be fucked on a federal level sooner than later. So I may as well live that makes me happy.

Not to mention we are about to be taxed to fucken death in Colorado.
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