Justin Bibb, the mayor elect of Cleveland has got together with good old Sh#t-Bird Brown in calling for the DOJ to reopen an investigation into the shooting that resulted in Tamir Rice's death. This despite the Obama/Holder DOJ being unable to find cause to bring a case.   Bibb on Twitter:  "Seven years ago, Tamir Rice was killed while playing with a toy gun, I join Cleveland City Council, U.S. Senator @SherrodBrown and others in calling on the Department of Justice to reopen the investigation. Today, we remember Tamir as the quest for justice continues."

With the greatly empowered community oversight board and this far-left kiddie mayor already grandstanding like this the CPD is really going to be in for it in the coming years.  As a result all of our lives in the area will be worse.  It's not just folks like me who live in the city, mark my words the problems will spill over into the suburbs too.

I really need to move...  

https://www.cleveland19.com/2021/11/23/cleveland-mayor-elect-justin-bibb-calls-doj-reopen-federal-tamir-rice-investigation/

The same thing with Issue 24.  All of the retards who voted for Bibb and 24, or those who merely didn't vote have ensured the area slides further down the drain, and becomes more like a low-rent Portland or Chicago.

In the meantime, Cleveland cops have been resigning, transferring, and retiring at a rate never before seen, while their recruitment has been unable to get qualified applicants.  The number of those leaving greatly exceeds the number joining.  Staffing levels have fallen below 80%, with many officers and sergeants being forced to work double-shifts just to meet the 80% minimum.

Bibb's grand-plan is to give the cops a raise, but nobody wants to work for a hostile administration. I'm sure staffing will continue to crumble.

It seems that a lot of the people from voted for this are progressive, white transplants.

I was going to edit my previous post, but my phone is all screwy.

I wanted to add that Bibb also posted his disappointment and concern that Kyle Rittenhouse was found innocent, noting that he believes there are two justice-systems (inferring one for whites, and one for non-whites).  He is trying his damnedest to be the next Obama.

As you know, there is a strong contingent of Champagne socialists in my neighborhood.  This hasn't been helpful...

When my wife and I voted (early AM) there were more people in the school working the election than people voting.  Contrast that to the 2020 election where we had the longest lines to vote I've seen in over 20 years of voting at that location.  The line was out of the building, around the corner and half-way down the block.  Prior to that the only time I ever had to stand in a line more than a few people long was 2008, Obama's first election.

That morning, I was one of three people at my polling location, which is outside of the city.  Ironically, I saw more anti-24 signs in the suburb than I saw signs, either for or against, in Cleveland.

I'm leaving the county, altogether, once my wife is done having kids.

Not a bad plan.  I can't believe that this kid is our mayor.  I thought Kucinich was the worst we would ever see.  This is going to be rough...

As much of POS as frank jackson is, bibb is going to destroy the city, starting with the police force.  It has already started.....

The worst part may be that not only will cleveland be greatly affected, but all the surrounding cities will suffer from it as well.

You know, I'd be OK with another investigation, IF they can prove the police KNEW it was a toy gun, KNEW they weren't going to be shot, and shot anyways, because "black".

They can prove that, right?

That's what I thought. Time for them to STFU.

It was a tragic situation, but hardly the only time a kid got shot, playing with a toy gun. I remember vividly a few incidents after Laser Tag got big and kids were running around everywhere with black "guns". I'm sure the officer who shot Tamir goes through hell over it on a regular basis.

It's a damn shame the kid wasn't taught respect for police.

Bibb is a fucktard tool and unfortunately the city is gonna slide with his anti police policies. I feel for all those young people who bought expensive condos downtown. They're gonna feel it first.

Some people just learn the hard way.

Lived in Cuyahoga County for 2 years (2010 to 2012). Olmsted Falls to be exact. That is as close to Cleveland as Ill ever live. Unfortunatly I still work in Cleveland. Been trying to change that for years but its not possible in my current situation. There's a reason why I drive almost an hour to work every day. I work in the ghetto, so my kid does not have to live anywhere near the ghetto.

Unfortunately we're all going to feel it.  I live within the city limits but even folks in the 'burbs will be effected by this too.  Criminals have cars and sometimes people want to come in to town for a game, concert, museum, etc...

I feel for the mid-career police officers who aren't able to retire but have a solid base of years put in already.

I'm west side, have several cops on my street. They're not happy but say they'll resist any roll back.

A lot of cops talk a big game, but in the end, it really is "every man for himself."  I've seen it a hundred times: they'll get together, and plan some big move to shake things up.  In the end, enough fold that the rest have no power, and give up.  The unions are, largely, incompetent and spineless, so they will be of little-to-no help (although they claim Bibb has been receptive of their input).  The only real resistance will just be from the guys actually leaving.

Ironically, administrative types, who were completely against Bibb and 24, are now saying that everyone is overreacting.  They say he will give huge raises, and anyone who is afraid of the new oversight are just bad cops.  Anyone with half of a brain realize that they are pleading for people to stay, since they are afraid of demotions, and losing pension money.  Of course, these same people, a year ago, were telling people to leave if they didn't like working as a cop.  In any case, they are already doing all they can to secure their top-level positions, and ensure their upward-trajectory.

I think that one positive is that Bibb is, to some degree, full of shit, and there are too many legal roadblocks for the new oversight committee to take effect as-written.  He seems a bit like a blowhard (in more ways than one), so I suppose it is possible that he will just do his best to misappropriate funds, and secure jobs for his cohorts, while not actually changing much of anything.  Then, in 3 years, he will go on about how Jackson left things such a mess that he really needs a second term before he can start to make the changes he initially promised (sound familiar?).

As I said - I plan on leaving the county, and staying away from any of the highways running through Cleveland.

BAM! TRUTH!

...all these MFs can do is destroy. Like termites and fungus. Parasites and leeches of the worst order. Sucking on the productivity and decency of the vast majority of the city and region. All schooled in the Frankfurt School, now morphed into BLM, Antifa, CRT, and all rest of the unholy BS they teach.

Here's the hilarious part: AFTER they destroy everything--city, schools, roads, bridges, LEO, Fire, EMS, sewers, water supply--they actually believe in their pea-sized brains things will still be 'normal.' That after NE Ohio is in a smoking ruin due to their incompetence and evil intent--they can still go out to their local hood-rat deli and cop some skittles and MD 20/20 or Colt 45 malt liquor. The two brain cells left in their tiny skulls believe this. They have been conditioned with propaganda and have not met any serious resistance...yet.

The wrecking crew of dumb-asses running the show at Cleveland's City Hall and their foot-soldiers, flash mobs, and worthless POS come out to some of the 'burbs in NE Ohio, or better still, the rural areas...they will get quite a reception.



~ Cleveland, Born 'n Bred, Slavic Village, 1940s, worked the mills, now retired in NE Ohio

The cognitive dissonance is pretty incredible.  Like you said BeNotAfraid, it's easy to tear things down.  It's a lot more difficult to build and maintain.  I love the Teslas and BMWs with Bernie stickers on them.  When I see them I think "you know that you won't get to keep what you have if you get your way right?"

Can we call him Bibben?

I would love to tear down all the abandoned houses, apartment buildings, and industrial buildings, plus get rid of all the vacant lots.  Then consolidate what is left.  Any guesses as to how much smaller the city of thieveland would be?  50%? More??


I also wonder how many dead bodies would be found if the city was gone over with a fine-toothed comb.

I was just talking to someone from Cleveland Heights about some horrible monster of a woman there, who was complaining about cops, at their latest council meeting.  You see, she was appalled that they requested to search her garage for a gun that a fleeing criminal had thrown into her yard after crashing his car into a house.  She went on to recount how they were walking around the street (every one of them) with AR-15s (which she kept bringing up) making her feel very uncomfortable: they could have accidentally killed a child, she lamented!  She explained to them that there was no way that the poor, oppressed criminal victim-of-circumstance could have thrown anything into her yard, because she saw the whole thing, and, why, he never left his car!  She told cops that they would need a warrant to retrieve the gun.  Well, can you believe those assholes had the nerve to secure the scene while getting said warrant?  The audacity!  She was so intimidated and bullied that she can't understand why anyone wants cops in Cleveland Heights.  In fact, she moved there from Milwaukee (or was it Minneapolis) because Cleveland Heights was supposed to be so progressive!  She was deeply disappointed that cops not only caught a criminal, but followed the law and secured a warrant, and then retrieved the illegal weapon that he had ditched in her yard (that she knew for a fact wasn't there).  She demands satisfaction!

There was also the tale of a city worker who filed a complaint against an off-duty cop (from another city) for yelling at a young POC who had sexually-harassed his daughter.  Even though he admitted that the guy violated no law or right, it just isn't right for a cop to be mean to a poor, oppressed individual in today's climate.  

The residents cry for bullshit progressive action, yet demand strict enforcement in their neighborhoods when they are the victims.  This doesn't even touch on the debacle of Section 8 residents lowering property values, causing everyone to be at odds over whether or not to enforce housing violations, since, well, that's racist.

Back to Cleveland, I remember many times when some transplant in Tremont, Gordon Square, Downtown, or the colleges couldn't believe they were victimized by people from the projects two blocks over.  Or why their luxury car was broken into when sitting out all night.  Or why there were homeless guys shooting up and shitting behind their apartments.  Or why their houses got burglarized after setting out the boxes for all of their fancy electronics.  The worse part is when you explain why, and they are angry at you for suggesting that, perhaps, the people in these neighborhoods don't want to be their friends.  Don't dare suggest they get a gun for protection, either.  As one progressive Jewish lady from the East Side (she felt is was important that we knew) yelled at us "WHY WOULD I OWN A GUN?!  THIS IS NOT A GUN CULTURE!"

We will see what Bibb actually does.  Supposedly he has been somewhat confused, and shocked, by all that goes into actually being a mayor, and the rules for "doing business".  It really sounds like he is in over his head.  In the meantime, the new, progressive residents of Cleveland will most certainly do their best to turn it into Detroit Jr.

The house at Fairmount & Taylor? That is literally around the corner from me. That guy's house is really messed up. My wife sometimes follows what's going on with city council, I'll ask if she heard anything about the bitchy neighbor.

Kept hearing how wonderful the Gordon Square area is.

So we went there. It's a couple of blocks of not-quite-hood surrounded by hood

What is so amazing to me about the situation that you describe with the bitchy resident is that she doesn't understand the basic truth that these criminals are actually bad people.  Without interference by the police with their activities they will take over and her delicate sensibilities will really be offended.  She thinks cops walking around with rifles is bad?  Wait until she has drug dealers setting up shop in houses on her street and protecting their places of business as they see fit.  Then she'll be all offended that the police aren't doing more.  

On Bibb being in over his head:  Who would have throught that electing a starry-eyed kid to be the mayor of a decent sized city would be a bad idea?  I don't agree with his politics so he was never going to get my vote but anyone who couldn't see that there was nothing behind his platitudes and posturing is as naive as he is...

Unfortunately, anyway you look at it there will be 4 years of this BS.  Just as Obama fucked up the country and the justice system and Biden continuing it will just get worse.
Get up and Vote. I laugh at the fools in Ohio city and Tremont. They think it is so trendy until crime hits them.

Born in Cleveland, bought first house in Euclid. Bought next house in Brunswick next in Medina. The last house will be in the middle of farm country. The hard part, I did like every area that I lived in. However sliding home value, increasing crime, and poor school systems caused me to move out of a city that I liked very much.

If you are in Cleveland leave as soon as you can. I follow NE Ohio Scanner on twitter there are at least four to five shootings a day on top of almost daily reported murders. It is not a safe place no matter what anyone says.

The best part of Cleveland is CWRU , The Clinic and Little Italy.

I use to hit a couple restaurants in little Italy but the drive from the west side in is not worth it, especially if you are leaving late in the evening.
Its a zoo you can drive thru rolling down Chester.

Don't forget the literal dozens of carjackings and robberies every day.  EVERY DAY.  Just yesterday, nurse got carjacked leaving work.  Same nurse that may have been patching up that POS had he caught a hot one....

Cleveland just keeps going downhill.  I’m at the southern end of the county and will hopefully move further south eventually.
Got out of Cleveland 11 years ago and finally got rid of my Cleveland house when the market was up.
My parents are still there.  I’m going to give them my house in the burbs when I leave the county.

We moved to Medina this past July.  It's wonderful.

I know a few people out that way.  I actually missed an opportunity to buy property down off of River Styx.  The original price was way too high, but then they split the parcel and the primary lot went for a much-more reasonable amount.  Stupid family drama left me out of the loop!

My father-in-law was in Medina County, but he retired and moved out by Sullivan.  The primary reason I haven't left, yet, is that I have a couple of family members in Cuyahoga, which makes for convenient babysitters.  I'm trying to convince them to move, too!

@AR45fan   I’ll be up in Medina Township in a few weeks for the trustee meeting for work, suggestions on a place to grab food that’s not a chain up there?

The Foundry has pretty darn good food.  There is also a whole in-the-wall bar that is supposed to have amazing pizza and wings.  The name escapes me at the moment.  


I had an opportunity to buy 13 acres, which abutted 7 more I had permission on,  for next to nothing in Medina.  It was arguably the best deer hunting spot I have ever had.  The house sucked, and with little kids I just couldn't do it.  I really wish I would have bought that land!!!!!

@bdover

Medina (the city) has pretty much everything; all kinds of restaurants, wineries, breweries, brew pubs, you name it.  Some I've been to:

On Tap

Thyme2 - This is pretty good.

Twisted Burgers and Sushi - Food's good but service is sometimes slow.

Foundry Social - This place has indoor electric go-karts, it's fun.

Blue Heron Brewery - This place gets talked up a lot and gets really busy but, maybe bad luck, we've found the food to be hit or miss.

TresPortillos - Typical Mexican, not a chain but they are all sort of alike, right?  This one is pretty good as they go though.

That's the car that went airborne? Yeah, that house has been hit multiple times.

4-5 a day? Try every hour. "Shots fired" is every other call sometimes.

The Opportunity (torobyou) Corridor is fast AF to get to University Circle now. Little Italy is 5 min from there.