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Posted: 2/17/2020 1:29:10 PM EDT
[#1]
I’m doing a panel QA that day I think but let me double check.
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Posted: 2/17/2020 2:19:38 PM EDT
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Let me check. I just did a ruck March with Stoner and I am hungry for more.
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Posted: 2/17/2020 7:09:33 PM EDT
[#3]
I am definitely interested, and available on the 29th, but not familiar with BB events or what is required.
Details please 
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Posted: 2/17/2020 9:06:52 PM EDT
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I am definitely interested, and available on the 29th, but not familiar with BB events or what is required. Details please Here's the link to the Battle Buddies guidelines- GD Discussion Here In short, the BB is a hiking club intended to help people become better prepared with skills such as communication, land navigation, shooting, physical fitness and overall readiness. The requirements include three six-mile hikes with a 35lb pack and long gun or a 45lb pack without, completed in 2 hours. There is also a shooting qualification that uses the NRA high-power match as a backbone, but you don't have to perform it in an official NRA sanctioned event, so we can set up our own and get qualified. I'd like to do a 6 mile hike on the 29th, we may have to break up into a couple of groups for fast and slow to make sure those that can qualify will get that done as it has to be accompanied by two non-family members. I'd also like to do some shooting, we can decide based on who is going if we need to practice some of the skills for the NRA match or if other things are needed more. We can also have a gear test/comparison to help people get set up if they'd like. We can also start some land nav, but that might be spreading things a bit thin for a single day. If you've never been to the range in Price, you're in for a huge treat. It's Disneyland for shooters. For me and my son, this is all in preparation for the summer event in Montana that requires pre-qualification. I'd love to help anyone else also get qualified and prepared for that event, the link for that is here- Montana Battle Buddies Event- June 5 & 6 |
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Posted: 2/18/2020 1:14:29 PM EDT
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What time is it planning on starting? bit of a drive, but i might be able to make it.
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Posted: 2/18/2020 1:59:50 PM EDT
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What time is it planning on starting? bit of a drive, but i might be able to make it. |
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Posted: 2/18/2020 7:13:50 PM EDT
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I'm 99% in, just need to double check with the wife that there's no activities scheduled for the kids that weekend.
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Posted: 2/18/2020 10:10:30 PM EDT
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I'm 90% for this as well.
I've done a lot of long range shooting and 3gun but never any high power type shooting. Will we be shooting at paper or steel? Please tell me steel... |
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Posted: 2/18/2020 11:18:00 PM EDT
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I'm 90% for this as well. I've done a lot of long range shooting and 3gun but never any high power type shooting. Will we be shooting at paper or steel? Please tell me steel... If we're going to do it I'll come up with some targets and call the match, you guys and my son will be able to shoot and I'll qualify.... some other day. |
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Posted: 2/19/2020 1:31:40 PM EDT
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I'm in, weather permitting (basically snow).
I'll probably stay at my in-laws place in Ferron Friday night and then drive over to the range. Don't feel like leaving my place before 6AM Saturday morning or dewinterizing the trailer just yet. 
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Posted: 2/19/2020 1:33:10 PM EDT
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So are there rules to the type of rifle/gear/ammo that you can use?
How long does a match like this take? Maybe we all can get a chance to shoot it., and practice on some steel. Like I said, I was planning on bring my SPR, not sure if it is legal for this competition. I'll be running a carbine stock on it if we are going to hike so I can pack it.  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/20/2020 12:25:15 AM EDT
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The one day I have to work Saturday this quarter and the BB shoot falls on it.. Oh well. I wish I could be there. The range in Price is absolutely fantastic. Post some pics of the days events!
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Posted: 2/21/2020 1:24:20 AM EDT
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Decided to see what kind of pace 3 MPH is on the treadmill at the gym tonight.
It's a pretty brisk walk, add in a 35-45 lb pack and an uneven surface and it will be a bit challenging for sure. I've spent the last couple of weeks focusing on cardio conditioning in preparation so hopefully that will pay during the hike. Also got one of my spare slings mounted on my go to rifle finally. Gonna re-check zero this weekend on both my scope and BUIS. Any idea on how much ammo we should bring for the shooting portion? If we have a plate carrier/chest rig can we bring that and have it count towards pack weight for the hike? |
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Posted: 2/21/2020 10:17:42 AM EDT
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I got a response from Ben on the shooting portion-
Any gun in any configuration is acceptable, he want people to grab whatever gun they would grab for a hike or emergency and do the test with that, so I’ll be using a Grendel SBR. I’m working on getting the correct targets for it. For the hike the rules are fairly simple. 45lbs without a gun, 35lbs with. If you want to wear a plate carrier or chest rig on the hike it does not count as weight in the pack. Any water used for weight can’t be used during the hike, it has to still meet weight at the end. I can bring a scale if we’d like, but we’re using the honor system for pack weights. Hopefully by the end of the day we’ll have 1/3 hikes in the bag and the shooting qualification. I’d like to do a hike and some land nav next time, we can do that up in the SLC/Utah county area too. We also should set up a Stop the Bleed training. |
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Posted: 2/21/2020 11:40:49 AM EDT
[#15]
Would love to go but I will be out of town until the 28th and have a lot of catching up to do at home.
North Springs is awesome. I have shot a bunch of matches with the CASL group. Great bunch of people. You guys will have a lot of fun! |
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Posted: 2/21/2020 12:37:57 PM EDT
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@SCW
Thanks for the details, I'll plan accordingly. I think I'll leave the PC home for this one then, will likely use it when getting the other hikes out of the way though, should be a good test to see how everything is adjusted or positioned before 'go time'. My rifle with a fully loaded PMAG comes in right about 9 lbs. I'll plan on hiking with it, but will bring extra weight in case I plan to leave it behind. ETA: I'll load my bag up as if I were going hunting, any additional weight needed I think I'll use frozen water, if that won't work let me know and I'll come up with something else to use. |
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Posted: 2/21/2020 12:41:45 PM EDT
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are you walking on trails or are you bushwhacking it overland. North Springs when it's muddy would literally kill me in 6 miles. some of that ground is pretty steep, and it's super slick when that mud gets wet
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Posted: 2/21/2020 12:41:58 PM EDT
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@SCW Thanks for the details, I'll plan accordingly. I think I'll leave the PC home for this one then, will likely use it when getting the other hikes out of the way though, should be a good test to see how everything is adjusted or positioned before 'go time'. My rifle with a fully loaded PMAG comes in right about 9 lbs. I'll plan on hiking with it, but will bring extra weight in case I plan to leave it behind. |
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Posted: 2/21/2020 12:48:54 PM EDT
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are you walking on trails or are you bushwhacking it overland. North Springs when it's muddy would literally kill me in 6 miles. some of that ground is pretty steep, and it's super slick when that mud gets wet The event in Montana will likely be pretty tough, getting people to qualify and participate I'm trying to make easy and inviting, even if people can't meet the qualifications now, we can be doing some training and shooting. Or at least get together and develop some of the community aspects that are so impressive about the VA guys. The concept of known and trustworthy neighbors would be good. |
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Posted: 2/21/2020 7:57:21 PM EDT
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Gents, my two kids and I did a short hike today, I pushed pretty hard just to see what we could do if we pushed. We got a full 3 miles along the road in 49 minutes, counting the 3 minute stop to put the weight back in my daughter's pack and figure out how to keep the zipper shut. My son and I used 45lb packs and my daughter (15 years old) was at 30lbs, but I limited her due to an injury I'm not convinced she's 100% healed.
I'd like to plan on about 17min/mile for the full 6 miles next week. As long as you can keep that pace for the first 3 miles you'll get a provisional qualification, if you can keep the pace for the 6 miles you'll have the first of three qualifier hikes. This is a route I mapped out around the range, really minimal elevation gain and should be pretty good dry roads. We'll have to start at the far end of a parking lot to make the full 6 miles, that or turn in circles for a few minutes.  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/22/2020 1:53:35 AM EDT
[#21]
Looks good to me.
I'm pretty confident in my ability to keep pace, definitely looking forward to whatever challenges come up! |
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Posted: 2/22/2020 6:25:34 PM EDT
[#22]
Hit the range this afternoon to double check zero.
Was shooting a little lower than I wanted so I came up a bit to end up at 1" low at 25 yards (farthest range I had access to today). Should be good for a 50 yard zero. Best 5 shot group of the day ended up at .41 MOA. |
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Posted: 2/23/2020 12:05:28 AM EDT
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Hit the range this afternoon to double check zero. Was shooting a little lower than I wanted so I came up a bit to end up at 1" low at 25 yards (farthest range I had access to today). Should be good for a 50 yard zero. Best 5 shot group of the day ended up at .41 MOA. My son and daughter will be shooting, I'm still not using my left arm very well after having surgery last month, so I'm just planning on helping run the 'match' and try to get everyone qualified. I'll be able to do the hike and take some pics for the (soon to be released) BB website. You guys will have to let me know if you're concerned with having your picture on the website, if so I'll make sure to work around that. |
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Posted: 2/23/2020 2:45:23 PM EDT
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I've got no issues with that, my work isn't anything special really so I don't have any reason to worry about those type of optics.
At this point my stance is such that I'm done being worried about OPSEC (to a degree) when it comes to the activities I engage in on my own time. |
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Posted: 2/25/2020 1:49:50 PM EDT
[#25]
I am going to take a rain check on this adventure. I have a plumbing issue that is patched until I can get to it on Saturday. You guys have fun!
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Posted: 2/25/2020 2:16:14 PM EDT
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Anyone going to bother me if i pull off the road out there to sleep in my car? won't be making it down till about 10pm friday night
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Posted: 2/25/2020 3:56:25 PM EDT
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Anyone going to bother me if i pull off the road out there to sleep in my car? won't be making it down till about 10pm friday night |
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Posted: 2/25/2020 3:58:05 PM EDT
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I am going to take a rain check on this adventure. I have a plumbing issue that is patched until I can get to it on Saturday. You guys have fun! |
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Posted: 2/25/2020 7:59:08 PM EDT
[#29]
Sorry some of you all will be missing out!
Looks like we'll have some decent weather for Saturday though. |
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Posted: 2/26/2020 11:30:22 AM EDT
[#30]
Me and the lady are in - what time does everything get started? And what is the range setup going to be? Can do the hike at the very least, lady has never shot a rifle before outdoors so I probably won't be making her shoot paper at 600.
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Posted: 2/26/2020 2:56:29 PM EDT
[#31]
I believe the range portion starts at 8AM, @SCW can clarify.
My understanding is once the range portion is done we'll be starting the hike. Depending on how many shooters/setup I would assume we would be wrapping everything up by 3-4PM at the very latest. |
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Posted: 2/26/2020 3:24:46 PM EDT
[#32]
I'll be there at 8am, we'll start by getting sighted in, walk the distances out to 600 and make sure everyone is tuned in and ready. Then we'll do the NRA match at 200 and 600 yards. I'd imagine we should be all done with that by noon or so, then do the hike in 3 hours. Depending on how tired my kids and I are after the hike, we might spend some time doing some pistol shooting at Cowboy Town after the hike. I'll have a new handgun and my daughter really wants to bang away at steel targets.
My daughter will be shooting a new rifle and she's never shot to 600 before either, but I really think we can get good hits and help people qualify. We don't need to be in a big hurry and we aren't going to stick to the details of the NRA events (like no coaching, no touching mags between strings, limits on caliber and optics, etc), so as long as people can get good scores on the correct size targets at the correct distances, we'll qualify. I'd like to help as many people as possible get familiar with the three shooting positions and be able to make solid hits at 200 and 600 yards. Even new shooters. On the hike we'll take off whenever we're ready, we can leave from the parking lot of the range and leave our stuff in the cars. Anyone that wants to meet a provisional qualification can go the 3 miles and anyone that wants to meet the full qualification on the first hike can do the 6 miles with weight. There is no need for a provisional rating if you want to jump straight to the qualification hike, the provisional is just to help people step their way to qualification as they can. |
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Posted: 2/27/2020 12:46:14 AM EDT
[#33]
In. I was just down there for the LRSU milk jug challenge, wind was crazy, couldn’t spot impacts in the snow, but got it on the last shot
 . Planning on shooting carbine with ACOG, but I better bring the AR10 for 600y just in case.
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Posted: 2/27/2020 10:24:16 PM EDT
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Got all my stuff packed up and ready to go.
My pack weighs in at 44.6 lbs before adding any water weight. I'll just toss in a couple of my 13 round XD mags to make the rest of the weight. Hitting my 200 lb weight goal by summer is looking better and better, I'd much rather weigh in at ~245 lbs with a pack versus the 260+ that I'm at now.
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Posted: 2/27/2020 10:49:27 PM EDT
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Got all my stuff packed up and ready to go. My pack weighs in at 44.6 lbs before adding any water weight. I'll just toss in a couple of my 13 round XD mags to make the rest of the weight. Hitting my 200 lb weight goal by summer is looking better and better, I'd much rather weigh in at ~245 lbs with a pack versus the 260+ that I'm at now. I took my kids shooting today, we got them both comfortable with the guns and confident they can make good hits on small targets. Now they just need to settle down and do what we've practiced, we've spent a few hours dry firing in the house and learning the positions. I've pretty well given up on doing the match myself, I'll just call/RO the match for everyone else and try to get everyone a passing score, then do the hike. My elbow is really cranky from trying to be active with it too soon. I was hoping my brother in law would make it too, instead he's got an entire household with the flu, so I'd prefer I don't see him for a while. |
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Posted: 2/28/2020 12:45:28 PM EDT
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Gents-
Remember that the range fees are (I think) $10/person. There will also be a minor expense for the NRA targets, which I'll bring. I think it will be a couple of bucks. Temps first thing in the morning are going to be near freezing, but we'll be in the sun. Bring a pad to lay on the concrete for the sitting and prone positions of the shoot. The entire match requires 50 rounds of whatever you want to use. Here's the match breakdown- Stage 1: Slow fire (10 shots in 10 minutes), standing at 200 yards Stage 2: Rapid fire (10 shots in 60 seconds with reload), sitting or kneeling, at 200 yards Stage 3: Rapid fire (10 shots in 70 seconds with reload), prone, at 300 yards Stage 4: Slow fire (20 shots in 20 minutes), prone, at 600 yards We'll take some time to make sure of our zero, then check at 300 and 600 before we start the match. We are not following strict NRA rules regarding behavior during the match including coaching, touching mags between strings, checking equipment and ammo, etc. We are just trying to qualify with our go-to guns at those ranges on those targets. We also need to perform the course of fire correctly, so reloads and time limits will be in effect. After the NRA we'll do the hike, we can leave guns/gear in vehicles and we'll hike from the parking lot. I'll be there right as it opens, I'm driving a white Ford pickup. See you tomorrow! Feel free to call me if you need to- Shane 435- eight five one- 9047 |
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Posted: 2/28/2020 1:27:03 PM EDT
[#37]
Sounds good, I'll be sure to grab some cash.
I've got a few moving type blankets that I'll bring in case someone doesn't have a mat. I should be there right around 8AM as well, I'll be driving up from Ferron. I'll be in a brown Ram pickup. |
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Posted: 2/28/2020 11:08:55 PM EDT
[#38]
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Sounds good, I'll be sure to grab some cash. I've got a few moving type blankets that I'll bring in case someone doesn't have a mat. I should be there right around 8AM as well, I'll be driving up from Ferron. I'll be in a brown Ram pickup. |
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Posted: 2/29/2020 11:11:28 PM EDT
[#39]
Made it back home a little over an hour ago...drive through the Canyon was pretty uneventful.
Anyway, totaled up my targets and came in at 210, really surprised I broke 200 considering how few hits I had at 600. The handful of 9 and 10s I got at 200 and 300 saved my bacon there. Also kind of frustrating knowing I would have come much closer to the 50% mark if I had just 6-7 more hits at 600. That said, still a ton of fun and I'm going to work on some heavier loads to help keep the wind from being as big of a deal at those ranges. Nice meeting you all, looking forward to doing it again! |
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Posted: 2/29/2020 11:18:07 PM EDT
[#40]
When’s the next one @scw?
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Posted: 2/29/2020 11:30:26 PM EDT
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Made it back home a little over an hour ago...drive through the Canyon was pretty uneventful. Anyway, totaled up my targets and came in at 210, really surprised I broke 200 considering how few hits I had at 600. The handful of 9 and 10s I got at 200 and 300 saved my bacon there. Also kind of frustrating knowing I would have come much closer to the 50% mark if I had just 6-7 more hits at 600. That said, still a ton of fun and I'm going to work on some heavier loads to help keep the wind from being as big of a deal at those ranges. Nice meeting you all, looking forward to doing it again! Good shooting. Get some dry fire practice and next time you’ll rock it, easy. Quoted:
When’s the next one @scw? My kids and I are headed back to Price in two weeks, we want to just slowly work through getting good hits to 600 and some more positional shooting practice. My daughter was frustrated that she didn’t pass the qualification her first time, lol. |
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Posted: 2/29/2020 11:34:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Honestly, I think your ‘failure’ was at least partially my fault. Next time we’ll have targets for 600 yards that will be the full width, even if we need to print 1/3 of the target at a time and staple them next to each other. I only took a few shots and I really shouldn’t have, my elbow is so sore and tender that showering was painful. But I’m chronically dumb, so not surprised, lol. Good shooting. Get some dry fire practice and next time you’ll rock it, easy. I think we can do a hike and intro land nav up north next time. Make it easier for the bulk of the Utah guys that don’t live in Central Utah. I want to do *something* every month, and I’m very willing to drive around some. If we did a hike around Sugarhouse Park followed up with some land nav training maybe? I’m open to suggestions. My kids and I are headed back to Price in two weeks, we want to just slowly work through getting good hits to 600 and some more positional shooting practice. My daughter was frustrated that she didn’t pass the qualification her first time, lol. I'm a total newb when it comes to land nav and just about anything else so I'd be excited to learn some stuff from people who know |
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Posted: 2/29/2020 11:49:04 PM EDT
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Legislative session is ending soon so I should have a bit more free time. Would love to come out to the next one. I'm a total newb when it comes to land nav and just about anything else so I'd be excited to learn some stuff from people who know I’m doing the ‘wandering around’ portion with my kids and nephews next Saturday. We spent about two hours going through USGS scale maps and learning all the finer points of what’s on the maps. I’m buying several types of compasses for them to play with and get familiar. I’ll have a few maps and compasses and protractors for us to play with by the time we get together for a land nav training. |
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Posted: 3/1/2020 1:06:49 AM EDT
[#44]
If anyone had pictures from today to share with us that were not able to make it, that would be cool to see. I am 100% in for the next one, wherever it is.
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Posted: 3/1/2020 8:17:36 PM EDT
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I’ve got several pictures on my phone and some on my drone that I only flew a couple of times. I’ll try to get them posted.
I’m trying hard to recover today, I guess I was getting sick and spent a good part of the night trying to relax and sleep, today I’ve got a fever and headache, cough, etc. my daughter is also hacking up her lungs today, I hope we didn’t get anyone else sick. A lot of our friends and relatives have been catching the flu, I hope I don’t have that. |
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Posted: 3/1/2020 9:50:15 PM EDT
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So far so good here, but I know who to blame if that changes
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