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Posted: 12/13/2020 9:46:09 AM EST
I currently have a stripped lower receiver just sitting around. I’ve pondered the idea of building it into an ar pistol. I do have a pistol permit for the state of New York. What are the rules for this? Seems like as long as I make the magazine non detachable I’m good to go? Is there barrel length restrictions?
Link Posted: 12/13/2020 10:20:42 AM EST
[Last Edit: 12/13/2020 10:23:27 AM EST by DaveM4P99]
Yeah just has to be a fixed magazine. Just use a t-nut on the mag release. Doesn't have to be permanent like some think, in my opinion.

Then get the lower added to your pistol permit by showing FFL receipt with make, model and serial. May need to show proof of an upper so they can list caliber. Depends on county.

Barrel length can be anything. Flash hider and adjustable brace are all OK.
Link Posted: 12/24/2020 11:03:59 AM EST
Has anyone in Suffolk had any luck getting a AR pistol on their “ sportsman” license ?
Link Posted: 12/24/2020 1:49:09 PM EST
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Has anyone in Suffolk had any luck getting a AR pistol on their “ sportsman” license ?
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Curious about Nassau also.  Not that I need another pistol on my permit...

Bill
Link Posted: 12/24/2020 9:27:37 PM EST
Fixed mag lower should not be a problem unless you have a badge in your wallet and can get the upgrade.   When you register it, make sure you cover it in whatever other calibers you want to buy uppers for so you dont have to go back and do it later.
Link Posted: 12/24/2020 9:51:01 PM EST
Suffolk sheriff won't.
Link Posted: 12/26/2020 10:54:13 PM EST
Anyone ever try/ask in yaphank?      Over  the summer I went in person to drop off my renewal ..... guy behind the counter that helped me was super nice and we chatted for a bit about normal stuff.    I should have asked him .....doh
Link Posted: 12/27/2020 11:25:42 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/27/2020 11:26:04 PM EST by sherm8404]
Nassau and Suffolk are definitively no go’s for AR pistols.
Link Posted: 1/5/2021 8:00:57 PM EST
I apologize for being way behind the times but what forces the mag to be fixed once it's listed on a pistol permit?
Link Posted: 1/6/2021 11:23:44 PM EST
No pistol can have a detachable magazine outside the pistol grip. Even Olympic target 22lr pistols are assault weapons now.
Link Posted: 1/8/2021 8:17:25 AM EST
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No pistol can have a detachable magazine outside the pistol grip. Even Olympic target 22lr pistols are assault weapons now.
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The 50 ounce weight limit also applies to pistols with a detachable magazine.

I have one OP. Put a fixed mag in it.

Clerk had no issues adding it here, but I've heard in some counties they will outright refuse to put an AR on your permit.
Link Posted: 1/8/2021 9:28:57 AM EST
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Originally Posted By sitdwnandhngon:


The 50 ounce weight limit also applies to pistols with a detachable magazine.

I have one OP. Put a fixed mag in it.

Clerk had no issues adding it here, but I've heard in some counties they will outright refuse to put an AR on your permit.
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I had no issues...but how does the clerk even know it's an AR lower receiver? Do they google the name? Some lowers have very random names.

Also an AR pistol is not illegal in NY so a clerk has no basis for denying it.
Link Posted: 1/8/2021 9:33:12 AM EST
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Originally Posted By DaveM4P99:


I had no issues...but how does the clerk even know it's an AR lower receiver? Do they google the name? Some lowers have very random names.

Also an AR pistol is not illegal in NY so a clerk has no basis for denying it.
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Originally Posted By sitdwnandhngon:


The 50 ounce weight limit also applies to pistols with a detachable magazine.

I have one OP. Put a fixed mag in it.

Clerk had no issues adding it here, but I've heard in some counties they will outright refuse to put an AR on your permit.


I had no issues...but how does the clerk even know it's an AR lower receiver? Do they google the name? Some lowers have very random names.

Also an AR pistol is not illegal in NY so a clerk has no basis for denying it.


Sales receipt for the lower said something like "AR-15, Caliber 5.56"

Some judges, clerks, sherrifs or whoever (each county is different) will outright refuse to add one, at least that's the word on Reddit and NYFirearms.

I'm sure you could appeal it, but at the end of the day they get to decide....thanks NY.
Link Posted: 1/8/2021 2:01:30 PM EST
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Originally Posted By sitdwnandhngon:


Sales receipt for the lower said something like "AR-15, Caliber 5.56"

Some judges, clerks, sherrifs or whoever (each county is different) will outright refuse to add one, at least that's the word on Reddit and NYFirearms.

I'm sure you could appeal it, but at the end of the day they get to decide....thanks NY.
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It's all in the language....years ago there was a story of a Municipality that didn't want their Police Officers issued .45acp because it was too big, so the Chief told them it was 11mm and they said that was OK.

We list them however the receiver is marked eg:
Anderson Mfg.
MSR-15
Multi.
FU123456
When a stripped lower comes in, it's Booked as "Other" and if you want to make it a Handgun, do a P-12 as a Frame/receiver same as you would something like a T/C Contender.  The Pistol Clerk will want to know the caliber, and if you don't have one yet, just list it as none, then change it when you do.....Most will have difficulty (remember, just because they work in a Law Enforcement Department doesn't mean they know jack-schitt more than they've been told) so use the T/C analogy as they often understand that.
Link Posted: 1/8/2021 2:07:53 PM EST
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It's all in the language....years ago there was a story of a Municipality that didn't want their Police Officers issued .45acp because it was too big, so the Chief told them it was 11mm and they said that was OK.

We list them however the receiver is marked eg:
Anderson Mfg.
MSR-15
Multi.
FU123456
When a stripped lower comes in, it's Booked as "Other" and if you want to make it a Handgun, do a P-12 as a Frame/receiver same as you would something like a T/C Contender.  The Pistol Clerk will want to know the caliber, and if you don't have one yet, just list it as none, then change it when you do.....Most will have difficulty (remember, just because they work in a Law Enforcement Department doesn't mean they know jack-schitt more than they've been told) so use the T/C analogy as they often understand that.
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Originally Posted By fp1201:
Originally Posted By sitdwnandhngon:


Sales receipt for the lower said something like "AR-15, Caliber 5.56"

Some judges, clerks, sherrifs or whoever (each county is different) will outright refuse to add one, at least that's the word on Reddit and NYFirearms.

I'm sure you could appeal it, but at the end of the day they get to decide....thanks NY.

It's all in the language....years ago there was a story of a Municipality that didn't want their Police Officers issued .45acp because it was too big, so the Chief told them it was 11mm and they said that was OK.

We list them however the receiver is marked eg:
Anderson Mfg.
MSR-15
Multi.
FU123456
When a stripped lower comes in, it's Booked as "Other" and if you want to make it a Handgun, do a P-12 as a Frame/receiver same as you would something like a T/C Contender.  The Pistol Clerk will want to know the caliber, and if you don't have one yet, just list it as none, then change it when you do.....Most will have difficulty (remember, just because they work in a Law Enforcement Department doesn't mean they know jack-schitt more than they've been told) so use the T/C analogy as they often understand that.


Our county requires a caliber to be listed.

Multi is not an option.

I asked about a TC and how they did those. She said just list every caliber barrel you own for it or want to own for it.
Link Posted: 1/8/2021 2:45:59 PM EST
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Originally Posted By sitdwnandhngon:


Our county requires a caliber to be listed.

Multi is not an option.

I asked about a TC and how they did those. She said just list every caliber barrel you own for it or want to own for it.
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Then in that case, I'd suggest just telling them what you plan on assembling. "A .22, a Thirty, and a 6.5"  Remember most of the time you're dealing with a LIFER.  
Link Posted: 1/8/2021 3:13:56 PM EST
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Then in that case, I'd suggest just telling them what you plan on assembling. "A .22, a Thirty, and a 6.5"  Remember most of the time you're dealing with a LIFER.  
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Originally Posted By fp1201:
Originally Posted By sitdwnandhngon:


Our county requires a caliber to be listed.

Multi is not an option.

I asked about a TC and how they did those. She said just list every caliber barrel you own for it or want to own for it.

Then in that case, I'd suggest just telling them what you plan on assembling. "A .22, a Thirty, and a 6.5"  Remember most of the time you're dealing with a LIFER.  


What's a lifer?
Link Posted: 1/12/2021 11:27:38 AM EST
I built a 300 blackout pistol with a fixed mag and when i went to put it on my card the county clerk listed it as anderson. Took five minutes.
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