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Posted: 9/29/2018 11:10:23 PM EDT
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Just SBR it
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Posted: 9/29/2018 11:46:27 PM EDT
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Just SBR it Thanks. |
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Posted: 10/1/2018 7:13:03 AM EDT
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It has a pistol brace instead of a stock. That means it is not designed and intended to be fired from the shoulder. Therefore, it’s a pistol.
Also, MI measures in the shortest configuration and the DD website lists 20.75” folded. This meets the definition of a pistol in MI and could be concealed Lastly, the 26” vs 30” thing is no longer a thing in MI. They changed that a couple years ago. |
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Posted: 10/5/2018 11:10:20 PM EDT
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It has a pistol brace instead of a stock. That means it is not designed and intended to be fired from the shoulder. Therefore, it’s a pistol. Also, MI measures in the shortest configuration and the DD website lists 20.75” folded. This meets the definition of a pistol in MI and could be concealed Lastly, the 26” vs 30” thing is no longer a thing in MI. They changed that a couple years ago. It’s very confusing and not sure the store knows exactly. Appreciate the guidance. |
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Posted: 10/6/2018 10:45:15 AM EDT
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Thanks. DD has two versions. 1 fixed and 1 folder. Can the fixed (28 OAL) be concealed or has to be less then 26? It’s very confusing and not sure the store knows exactly. Appreciate the guidance. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It has a pistol brace instead of a stock. That means it is not designed and intended to be fired from the shoulder. Therefore, it’s a pistol. Also, MI measures in the shortest configuration and the DD website lists 20.75” folded. This meets the definition of a pistol in MI and could be concealed Lastly, the 26” vs 30” thing is no longer a thing in MI. They changed that a couple years ago. It’s very confusing and not sure the store knows exactly. Appreciate the guidance. |
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Posted: 10/6/2018 11:07:22 AM EDT
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28 OAL cannot be concealed. That's a rifle only. Last question, so if I did buy the fixed version how would I register it? They’re selling or at least listing it as a pistol. |
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Posted: 10/6/2018 11:51:14 PM EDT
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Thank you. Last question, so if I did buy the fixed version how would I register it? They’re selling or at least listing it as a pistol. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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28 OAL cannot be concealed. That's a rifle only. Last question, so if I did buy the fixed version how would I register it? They’re selling or at least listing it as a pistol. That said, if the fixed version has a pistol brace, it can’t be a rifle. If it’s over 26” OAL, it can’t be a pistol. Therefore it’s a firearm. I’m not familiar with this model in particular. Can you post the details? Stock/brace, OAL folded and unfolded, barrel length, etc. |
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Posted: 10/7/2018 12:08:06 AM EDT
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So I hate doing this, but I’m on my phone and don’t feel like researching it. I am not a lawyer, and this is not legal advice. That said, if the fixed version has a pistol brace, it can’t be a rifle. If it’s over 26” OAL, it can’t be a pistol. Therefore it’s a firearm. I’m not familiar with this model in particular. Can you post the details? Stock/brace, OAL folded and unfolded, barrel length, etc. |
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Posted: 10/7/2018 8:43:30 PM EDT
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Fixed pistol brace 28oal, 10.3barrel. This model doesn’t fold. Was just wondering what would’ve happen if I was to drop off sthe sales receipt since it’s claimed to be a pistol. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So I hate doing this, but I’m on my phone and don’t feel like researching it. I am not a lawyer, and this is not legal advice. That said, if the fixed version has a pistol brace, it can’t be a rifle. If it’s over 26” OAL, it can’t be a pistol. Therefore it’s a firearm. I’m not familiar with this model in particular. Can you post the details? Stock/brace, OAL folded and unfolded, barrel length, etc. |
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Posted: 10/7/2018 11:05:38 PM EDT
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I can’t claim to know what would happen because strange things have happened with the pistol registry. Having said that, being a fixed 28” OAL and having a pistol brace rather than a stock makes it a firearm. It is not a rifle because it is not intended to be fired from the shoulder with a pistol brace. It is not a pistol because it is over 26” OAL. It is not a shotgun because it has a rifles barrel. Therefore, it’s simply a firearm. It cannot be registered as a pistol in MI, and it cannot be carried concealed via a CPL. I find this model interesting though I’ll have to pass for now. Going to look and try to price the folding model. Thanks again. |
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Posted: 10/12/2018 9:24:51 AM EDT
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I can't claim to know what would happen because strange things have happened with the pistol registry. Having said that, being a fixed 28" OAL and having a pistol brace rather than a stock makes it a firearm. It is not a rifle because it is not intended to be fired from the shoulder with a pistol brace. It is not a pistol because it is over 26" OAL. It is not a shotgun because it has a rifles barrel. Therefore, it's simply a firearm. It cannot be registered as a pistol in MI, and it cannot be carried concealed via a CPL. |
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Posted: 11/10/2018 1:21:06 AM EDT
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So.... I found a good price on the folder option online at a particular website and went through the checkout process. After selecting a FFL the website listed this:
These products cannot be included with your order due to the following: Michigan prohibits the sale of pistols greater than 26 inches in overall length. They’re not open until monday so I was kinda shocked. I’m not up to date on ar-pistols. This was going to be my first at-pistol. Thoughts? |
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Posted: 11/15/2018 9:26:24 AM EDT
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So.... I found a good price on the folder option online at a particular website and went through the checkout process. After selecting a FFL the website listed this: These products cannot be included with your order due to the following: Michigan prohibits the sale of pistols greater than 26 inches in overall length. They’re not open until monday so I was kinda shocked. I’m not up to date on ar-pistols. This was going to be my first at-pistol. Thoughts? Have you called them to inquire? |
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Posted: 11/17/2018 12:54:30 AM EDT
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I’m not sure what they mean by that statement. Have you called them to inquire? |
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Posted: 11/17/2018 1:38:08 PM EDT
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I have a Sig P556 that, iirc, Sig lists as 28 1/4" OAL.
I bought it from Jays, registered as a pistol. 
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Posted: 11/18/2018 2:20:11 AM EDT
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I suspect a fair amount of the clerks processing the RI60s are not doing any research on the claimed firearms they just process what gets dropped off.
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