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Posted: 8/1/2021 6:42:36 PM EDT
Two more weeks to go, I'll be ditching my PRK resident and become a Arizonian, yeepee.

I promise, I won't bring any of the Kalifornia Liberal Sh_t to my new home state.

It will take me some time before I can get organize, and start shooting again.
Link Posted: 8/1/2021 7:05:08 PM EDT
Welcome!  What part of Arizona will you be settling in to?

Oh yea!  Ammo Tax!
Link Posted: 8/1/2021 7:10:44 PM EDT
Register vehicles ASAP and burn the Cali plates
Link Posted: 8/1/2021 8:29:53 PM EDT
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This, and welcome to freedom!

Link Posted: 8/1/2021 9:10:44 PM EDT
Welcome aboard.  I did it 23 years ago.  CA to AZ.  BTW it is Arizonan.  

To really be an Arizonan you need to buy your first machinegun.  I recommend an M16 variant as the first step.  
Link Posted: 8/1/2021 9:42:06 PM EDT
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I'l believe it when I start seeing it

Please for the love of humanity, leave the Calitude behind and drive normally and more importantly, safely. I'm tired of CA plated vehicles, thinking they can treat us like shit just like they do there. Cars in the roundabouts always have right of way, get the fuck off the median so both passing cars can have safe space, stop tailgating us on single lane roads, and stop means stop, FFS.
Link Posted: 8/1/2021 11:13:56 PM EDT
Not big fan of most people crowding in,

but gun lovers...we can make room = )

Welcome aboard from an AZ native!
Link Posted: 8/2/2021 12:35:04 AM EDT
Not to threadjack, but me too, my time frame is by the end of the year.

My home in Yavapai county is under construction right now. I have friends and family in Scottsdale. .

The Mrs. and I bring conservative votes.  We don’t drive like A-holes.  Not looking to change anything and looking forward to a change.

I am not a Kalistan native.

I have an NFA shopping list.

Life member AZCDL for a couple years now, ever since I started planning our escape to America.

Taxation is theft, but the Ammo tax is just being neighborly!  

God bless Arizona!

Link Posted: 8/2/2021 1:02:17 AM EDT
Welcome from an AZ native. As suggested, get rid of those Cali plates FAST, obey traffic laws, please, and feel free to ohh and ahh at everything available in our gun shops.
Link Posted: 8/2/2021 1:57:04 AM EDT
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Welcome!  What part of Arizona will you be settling in to?

Oh yea!  Ammo Tax!
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Mesa, more specifically Eastmart
What ammo tax, more reason the leave this god forsaken place.
Link Posted: 8/2/2021 1:58:02 AM EDT
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ADOT on the next day, getting rid of both driver's license and Kal plates.
Link Posted: 8/2/2021 1:59:33 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By jimmybcool:
Welcome aboard.  I did it 23 years ago.  CA to AZ.  BTW it is Arizonan.  

To really be an Arizonan you need to buy your first machinegun.  I recommend an M16 variant as the first step.  
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NFA list is already established, CCW license, NFA trust first, then SBR, SBS, and Suppressors.
Binary trigger next, then go a few machineguns.
Link Posted: 8/2/2021 8:38:29 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By 5D15:
Not to threadjack, but me too, my time frame is by the end of the year.

My home in Yavapai county is under construction right now. I have friends and family in Scottsdale. .

The Mrs. and I bring conservative votes.  We don’t drive like A-holes.  Not looking to change anything and looking forward to a change.

I am not a Kalistan native.

I have an NFA shopping list.

Life member AZCDL for a couple years now, ever since I started planning our escape to America.

Taxation is theft, but the Ammo tax is just being neighborly!  

God bless Arizona!

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You'll fit.

Where in Yavapai? Yavapai native here.

Our top three problematic drivers are:

1. Intoxicated.

2. Reckless with no regard for others or distracted, sometimes both (looking at you, Californians).

3. Medical such as strokes and crashing into oncoming cars; we have a huge retirement community along with snowbirds.
Link Posted: 8/2/2021 9:27:44 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By leungken:

Mesa, more specifically Eastmart
What ammo tax, more reason the leave this god forsaken place.
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You'll like it here, moved here from Cali back in '83.

Eastmark is nice, you'll like living there.
Link Posted: 8/2/2021 1:36:55 PM EDT
When my niece immigrated I took her and her AR to J&G in Prescott to get her bullet button removed.  They did it for free and everyone in the store applauded for her.
Link Posted: 8/2/2021 5:28:53 PM EDT
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Don't do this at MVD unless you like hitting your head with a hammer.  Find a 3rd party title and license service, fees are minimal and you will save much frustration.
Link Posted: 8/2/2021 5:30:16 PM EDT
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Nice!
Link Posted: 8/2/2021 9:54:31 PM EDT
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ADOT on the next day, getting rid of both driver's license and Kal plates.
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Prepare for a bit of a sticker shock when you register/title your vehicle.
Link Posted: 8/2/2021 11:19:50 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Jonny1904:
You'll fit.

Where in Yavapai? Yavapai native here.

Our top three problematic drivers are:

1. Intoxicated.

2. Reckless with no regard for others or distracted, sometimes both (looking at you, Californians).

3. Medical such as strokes and crashing into oncoming cars; we have a huge retirement community along with snowbirds.
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86303 ZIP code, Prescott address but not in city limits.  

Link Posted: 8/3/2021 3:14:39 AM EDT
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Don't do this at MVD unless you like hitting your head with a hammer.  Find a 3rd party title and license service, fees are minimal and you will save much frustration.
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Originally Posted By mojeb21:
Register vehicles ASAP and burn the Cali plates



Don't do this at MVD unless you like hitting your head with a hammer.  Find a 3rd party title and license service, fees are minimal and you will save much frustration.

Where to find those, recommendations are much appreciated.
Link Posted: 8/3/2021 7:26:44 AM EDT
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86303 ZIP code, Prescott address but not in city limits.  

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Originally Posted By Jonny1904:
You'll fit.

Where in Yavapai? Yavapai native here.

Our top three problematic drivers are:

1. Intoxicated.

2. Reckless with no regard for others or distracted, sometimes both (looking at you, Californians).

3. Medical such as strokes and crashing into oncoming cars; we have a huge retirement community along with snowbirds.


86303 ZIP code, Prescott address but not in city limits.  

Both seek and I will be your closest arfcom neighbors

@seek2
Link Posted: 8/3/2021 7:31:26 AM EDT
Originally Posted By leungken:

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AAA if you are a member. Fast and low/no fees.
Link Posted: 8/3/2021 12:05:00 PM EDT
I'm pretty sure ARF is invading yavapai county at this point.

I think we have quite a few folks in the Prescott area, self included.
Link Posted: 8/3/2021 11:36:26 PM EDT
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I touched bases briefly with AZ_Sky also when I first bought my lot.

Link Posted: 8/4/2021 8:06:52 AM EDT
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I touched bases briefly with AZ_Sky also when I first bought my lot.

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Originally Posted By Jonny1904:
Both seek and I will be your closest arfcom neighbors

@seek2




I touched bases briefly with AZ_Sky also when I first bought my lot.


I believe he is 86305.

Welcome home.
Link Posted: 8/5/2021 12:04:05 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Jonny1904:

I believe he is 86305.

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Thanks!

I looked at a map of 86303… big area!
Link Posted: 8/5/2021 12:12:51 AM EDT
Moved here last year so far i like it and yes buying a new gun was a simple process as should be even had to buy a compact too and private party sales are nice.

Got registered to vote right away too and brought 3 red votes here.I only had to go to MVD once to transfer my sand rail since i needed a dot level 2 inspection but honestly i never seen more incompotent workers there that i gave up on the transfer They basically wouldnt do it and had no clue and third party only could do a full st legal only which it cant because of emissions and would only give large plate not the small plate like all my friends here have on theirs!Basically gave up on it and left green sticker from ca on it.

As for everything else third party was worth the extra few bucks.
Link Posted: 8/5/2021 1:00:15 AM EDT
No thanks
Link Posted: 8/6/2021 10:22:56 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By leungken:

Mesa, more specifically Eastmart
What ammo tax, more reason the leave this god forsaken place.
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East Mesa is GTG. Welcome
Link Posted: 8/8/2021 5:12:39 PM EDT
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I believe he is 86305.

Welcome home.
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Originally Posted By 5D15:
Originally Posted By Jonny1904:
Both seek and I will be your closest arfcom neighbors

@seek2




I touched bases briefly with AZ_Sky also when I first bought my lot.


I believe he is 86305.

Welcome home.
86301
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86301
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Originally Posted By Jonny1904:
Originally Posted By 5D15:
Originally Posted By Jonny1904:
Both seek and I will be your closest arfcom neighbors

@seek2




I touched bases briefly with AZ_Sky also when I first bought my lot.


I believe he is 86305.

Welcome home.
86301

Close enough
Link Posted: 8/10/2021 12:34:19 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By leungken:

Mesa, more specifically Eastmart
What ammo tax, more reason the leave this god forsaken place.
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The member Rizzo requires .22 from all new residents. If you don't obey, he'll tape flashlights onto your vehicle exhaust.

Eta: get a ccw permit as soon as you can. Not needed, but it bypasses the background check at the FFL when buying new or transferring.
Link Posted: 8/10/2021 12:44:53 PM EDT
Folks often post questions about Shooting in AZ on forums, I often reply, I finally saved my replies so I won't have to retype everything each time. This probably gives more info than you asked for but its easy to copy/paste. latest update in Aug 2021.

Websites:
http://www.arizonashooting.org/ web group
http://www.azshootingzone.com/forums/ web group
https://arizonagunowners.com/ web group
https://www.ar15.com/forums/hometown/Arizona/13/ another web group
http://www.phoenixrodandgun.org/ A club with a range in south phoenix
http://www.rsscaz.com/ A club with a range in east Mesa
https://www.azgfd.com/shooting/basf/ A range with clubs in north phoenix.
all 3 have public ranges and competition ranges and active competition groups
http://arizona-rifleshooting.com/ my website about competition

3 ranges in the Tucson area:
http://www.tucsonrifleclub.org/
https://pimapistolclub.com/
https://tucsontrapandskeet.com/

orgs:
http://www.asrpa.com/ our state association they do: competition, training, education, run a range west of phoenx and civil rights advocacy.
http://www.azcdl.org/ is 100% civil rights

NRA/CMP/PRS style competition groups:
https://phoenixrodandgun.org/    (prgc)
https://www.rsscaz.com/     (rio)
http://www.desertsharpshooters.com/    (avery)
https://www.facebook.com/AZLRPRS     (cowtown)
https://www.roadrunnerrifleclub.com/     (avery or rio)
http://arizona-rifleshooting.com/

AZ has open carry and constitutional carry. Take the AZ CCW class anyway, its useful info and the permit is your proof of background check so you don't have to go thru NICS when you buy.


There are 4 or 5 nice outdoor shooting ranges in the Phoenix area. See below. (As well as several indoor ranges I don't know much about.)

I've been a member of both PRGC & RSSC for over 20 years, (and have been a volunteer, match director, coach or club officer in those years).

Both RSSC & PRGC are true member-run clubs, both lease their dirt (RSSC from AZGFD, PRGC from PHX city park).

Ben Avery is a AZGFD owned and run facility, landless clubs reserve  the various ranges and run shoots there.

A smaller range, Joe Foss range in Buckeye, an hour west of Phoenix, is run by ASRPA.

All 3 larger ranges have a public range, the 2 clubs offer membership. All 3 have lots of competition style events. Every scheduled competition or practice style event at the 2 clubs and the clubs that use Avery are open to everyone, most by walk-on, some shoots take advanced entry reservations.

Both PRGC and RSSC cost about the same to join. Each has a main range and 6 or 8 specialty ranges. RSSC faces north, PRGC faces south (low winter sun is unpleasant to shoot in) PRGC High Power range is configured properly with 1 pits and 3 firing lines, Rio is backwards, 1 firing line and 2 pits.

RSSC tries to run itself like a business, all members have to leave when the last RO clocks out, even if there are still 3 hours of sunlight remaining. All the specialty ranges (except shotgun) require a lengthy approval process to gain access. On top of that, there is a tedious process to get the after-hours pass that allows weekday shooting till 9.  RSSC has the best sporting clays field in the state, perhaps all the states. But they don't allow carry.

PRGC is much more member-friendly. members can use most (but not all) ranges without a special qual process. PRGC is very friendly for members bringing guests and allows carry.

BASF has about 80 firing points on the public range and 15 or 20 trap/skeet/clays fields and a huge archery area. The facility also has about 15 other ranges reserved by clubs for shoots including 100 firing points to 1000yds on high power, 2 silhouette ranges and about a dozen practical bays.

PRS-style shooting is monthly at a private shooting site called "Cowtown" in the west part of the valley not far from Ben Avery. And a monthly shoot at RSSC.

BLM is opening some formal maintained shooting sites in the west valley desert.

There are some nice outdoor ranges in Tucson, also near Casa Grande, Flagstaff, Payson, Kingman, Yuma and other parts of the state.

As to shooting in the Desert, BLM and National forest permit shooting most of the year. State Trust Land permits hunting but NOT target shooting.  Indian reservations do not permit anything. Check the national forest websites, Tonto NF, the one closest to phoenix, has closed off shooting on hundreds of square miles nearest town due to dirt bike infestation and bans water jugs. Steel and paper are still OK, but plan on an hour drive to find a safe legal place. During hot weather fire seasons all the NFs ban shooting, camp fires and smoking.

Hunting is by drawing for tags to hunt anything larger than a quail or coyote. But lots of public land to hunt on.
https://www.azgfd.com/



Shopping in the Phoenix area:
BassPro in Mesa
Cabela's in northwest valley
2 or 3 Sportsman's Warehouse stores
lots of Local gun Shops.

Hope this helps, welcome to AZ, shoot good!

Poole
http://arizona-rifleshooting.com/
Link Posted: 8/10/2021 11:59:52 PM EDT
I am looking for
1,000 plus yard managed rifle range, for precision rifles (that are ranged, marked, and controlled, not BLM land)
Individual shooting bays (180 or 360) that I can practice holster draw, shooting on the move, "tactical" or "combat" type shooting, and even some night shoots with lights or NODS
A good sporting clay field

Update, I AM an AZ residence.
Link Posted: 8/12/2021 3:35:50 AM EDT
http://www.desertsharpshooters.com/  is running 1000yd at Ben Avery this coming saturday, be in the pits at 630 for set up, or show up after 7 to watch.

as to 180/360deg shooting bays, Avery, Rio & PRGC have bays but probably not more than 30deg left to right, cowtown might have more flexibility. go watch or participate in the USPSA, IDPA and multigun shoots at the ranges and see what interests you.

shoot good

Poole
Link Posted: 8/12/2021 9:32:31 AM EDT
you are going to need your birth cert. when applying for your drivers license
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Actually, that's only required for the National ID license which has been postponed until May 2023 due to the WuFlu - still will eventually need it though.
It sucks that the government won't let National Id license transfer from one state to the next!
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Actually, that's only required for the National ID license which has been postponed until May 2023 due to the WuFlu - still will eventually need it though.
It sucks that the government won't let National Id license transfer from one state to the next!
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Originally Posted By Gunrunr:
you are going to need your birth cert. when applying for your drivers license

Actually, that's only required for the National ID license which has been postponed until May 2023 due to the WuFlu - still will eventually need it though.
It sucks that the government won't let National Id license transfer from one state to the next!


Not born here, so I brought my passport and my Global Entry, got my temp now.
Link Posted: 8/12/2021 4:43:48 PM EDT
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Actually, that's only required for the National ID license which has been postponed until May 2023 due to the WuFlu - still will eventually need it though.
It sucks that the government won't let National Id license transfer from one state to the next!
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Originally Posted By Gunrunr:
you are going to need your birth cert. when applying for your drivers license

Actually, that's only required for the National ID license which has been postponed until May 2023 due to the WuFlu - still will eventually need it though.
It sucks that the government won't let National Id license transfer from one state to the next!

I had to verify, because I was still thinking that it's needed to fly right now:

https://azdot.gov/motor-vehicles/driver-services/arizona-travel-id
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Not born here, .....
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香港?
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香港?
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Not born here, .....


香港?

How did you guess
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by the spelling of your surname

http://arizona-rifleshooting.com/hk.html

these pics are from '02 to '04, I heard HKRA closed.

hope to see you on the firing line!

Poole
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by the spelling of your surname

http://arizona-rifleshooting.com/hk.html
http://arizona-rifleshooting.com/hkra1.jpg
these pics are from '02 to '04, I heard HKRA closed.

hope to see you on the firing line!

Poole
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Originally Posted By leungken:

How did you guess


by the spelling of your surname

http://arizona-rifleshooting.com/hk.html
http://arizona-rifleshooting.com/hkra1.jpg
these pics are from '02 to '04, I heard HKRA closed.

hope to see you on the firing line!

Poole

My birth place, left th city to US when I was 18.
Been back only two times, last visit was November 2019, right before the CCP virus hit.

I'll restart shooting, once I moved in, and hopefully the weather gets cooler, and dryer.
Link Posted: 8/13/2021 1:02:01 PM EDT
you don't have to wait for it to get cooler! us serious shooters shoot outdoor year 'round!

(but I'll admit that first summer might take some aclimating)

welcome to AZ

Poole
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you don't have to wait for it to get cooler! us serious shooters shoot outdoor year 'round!

(but I'll admit that first summer might take some aclimating)

welcome to AZ

Poole
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Not the weather, but need to get the move completed before having fun.
I lived in this house for 16 years, and Kalifornia for almost 40 years, lots of moving needed to be done.

Yes, definitely, see you at the firing line.
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