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Posted: 12/29/2005 12:05:19 AM EDT
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If you make it to the next shoot I'll hand you one that wont bite  ( no it's not for sale and never will be  )
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Posted: 12/29/2005 7:43:59 AM EDT
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I SEE A GOD DAMN CHAMBER FLAG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
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Posted: 12/29/2005 8:17:05 AM EDT
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The fight will probably be over before you have a chance to retrieve a rifle. How long does it take to fire two or three rounds? How long to run to your car from where you are right now? Unless I’m just getting in or out of the car I am probably a minute of two away. I think the context of the quote is your South American banana plantation is being overrun by guerillas, so you take care of the first wave with your pistol while you run naked from the hot tub to your gun rack and retrieve your M16 and twenty mags. I heard he moved up here to Oregon, out in the sticks somewhere. How come he’s not in the forum yet? |
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Posted: 12/29/2005 8:17:11 AM EDT
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Simple - Meth heads in my part of the world tend to not go down with one or two shots; this info from Clackamas County Sheriff officers. They also tend to congregate in large groups of three or more. Thus the need for sufficient capacity (what every that magic number is). I do agree on the need to shoot to escape but more so my mindset is to shoot to survive. BTW - I only carry one extra mag. To further the point, I do not see the practicality in carrying an 18 round magazine as you mentioned. First that would require switching to 9mm and I will not do that. Second, it seems to me the G18 mags would not conceal well. The G23 with its 13+1 capacity conceals very well. Ballistically speaking the .40 SW is a very capable round. In addition to the proven reliability of the Glock platform I am comfortable with my choice. |
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Posted: 12/29/2005 8:27:57 AM EDT
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Meth head meet 230gr JHP.
I've heard too many reports of 40 hits that dont seem to do as well as they should. Breaking bone favors alot of momentum. I lean towards heavier is better. Hell if the .50GI was a common round/pistol I'd carry that. As long as you dont significantly increase recoil I'll always take the bigger cartridge. Capacity is of far less importance as long as there's enough to get the job done in the first place. I'd feel as comfortable with a 45acp revolver as an autoloader if I could shoot it as well. |
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Posted: 12/29/2005 10:49:10 AM EDT
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Trip to the range, buddy?
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Posted: 12/29/2005 7:24:19 PM EDT
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[sigh] Pointless to continue. You have your thought(wrong), I mine(right)  . |
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Posted: 12/29/2005 7:34:19 PM EDT
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what was the date of that study? I was reading that the round count for NYPD was 5.something for years. Then it went through the roof on the SOP-9 cards when they went from revolvers to autos with
BAH! pistol is a pistol is a pistol... I decided years ago that .05 inches of wound channel isn't going to mean anything between 9mm and .45. But I carry a .45 anyway. |
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Posted: 12/29/2005 7:46:14 PM EDT
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I think he doesn't do forums. He posted over on glocktalk to clear something up one time. If you have the money and inclination, get down there to take some classes. Clint is a great instructor. |
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Posted: 12/29/2005 8:48:29 PM EDT
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Makes sense. I still dont buy into needing high capacity in a CCW. But, thats just my warped sense of thinking! |
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Posted: 12/29/2005 9:23:56 PM EDT
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a guy I know was taking a close range gun fighting class and said he was seriously re-considering carrying his Kimber - thought he might go back to the Glock. he came to this conclusion trying to shoot it out with 2 attackers armed with knives in the 3-5 ft range. He came to the conclusion that 8 shots (not hits) wasn't enough to get the job done... unable/difficult to re-load while getting stabbed. |
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Posted: 12/29/2005 11:08:32 PM EDT
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If your pistol runs dry in that close of an engagement it will become an impact weapon. I've done alot of close quarters drills and engaging 2 or more targets is not difficult if practiced. How many do practice close-in drills on a regular basis? |
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Posted: 12/30/2005 9:15:35 AM EDT
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If you don't know how to shoot from retention, you should learn.
How many practice shooting laterally from a seated position? My friend is a professional and he trains a lot so I'm sure he shoots at contact - 3 yards quite a bit. But his conclusion was that practicing close in drills does not prepare a person for the targets to move around the 360 deg shooting range of life and try to stab him. Kind of like the first time you use SIM-guns... 
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Posted: 12/30/2005 9:34:21 AM EDT
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If this rain lets up some, I will probably take the kids out to shoot it, this weekend. Should be a fun one for them (and me). Now, I just need to get a couple extra mags for it. |
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Posted: 12/30/2005 9:43:14 AM EDT
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Ha, that would be nice, this is unreal. Hope ya have fun with it, that's a damn nice pistol! Hope you can make it up on the 21st as well, that is if we decide where it is gonna be held at
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Posted: 12/30/2005 11:03:06 AM EDT
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I won't really know if the 21st is free, until it gets here. I'm just day to day, for awhile. Once things are settled down, I should know what free time I will have. |
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Posted: 12/30/2005 2:35:39 PM EDT
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I agree, you're right...based on the facts presented I'm shit canning the high cap (standard) mags and going back to 9-10 rounders in my G22, 23, 27..Makes sense that way  ETA: My latest post was a cheep shot at sarcasm. I'll leave it posted but it lacks merit to support my orginal statement. |
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Posted: 12/31/2005 11:37:20 AM EDT
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There is always a G36 SINGLE STACK
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Posted: 1/7/2006 6:41:50 PM EDT
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Well, shot it today, wish I had better conditions to do it in. First go out was just more of a load it and make sure it went bang thing, crappy weather.
Came home, got an issue with my new upper narrowed down, went back out. Although not off of a bench, I could keep 8 in about a 5" circle off hand at 25yds, so I'm pretty happy with it. Oh, out of the 200rds thru it today, never had an issue with the devilish external extractor
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Posted: 1/7/2006 11:34:52 PM EDT
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Report back when you've got 2000 through it My cheap MIM infested Springer GI is up over 2K now without a hiccup. I've got to shoot it more. I'll load up 500LSWCs and see if it'll digest them all in one sitting. For those who dont shoot alot of cast bullets that's a big issue because the waxy bullet lube gets all over the place and gets pretty thick and nasty. Anybody know why my text looks different????? |
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No matter what I do, the thumb safety tears a hole in the web of my thumb. I have had a number of them, All the same, even with plenty of good smithin'. Oh well, I can look and admire.