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Posted: 12/9/2013 10:48:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Registration is the first step in the plan And then they will know where the registered ones are. Those that are compliant would have to be found. What I hear them say, they will never do door to door searches ? Check history Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I think it's kind of amusing how many people are convinced that a confiscation bill will be passed for those who register, but that their (currently) compliant rifles will be immune. All meg fed semi autos are next, then all semi auto rifles in general. Registration is the first step in the plan And then they will know where the registered ones are. Those that are compliant would have to be found. What I hear them say, they will never do door to door searches ? Check history So they order registration of the ones that are "compliant" for now. A lot of them register. Those who don't, don't remove them from their houses, take them hunting, to the range, etc, for fear of arrest and imprisonment. They then confiscate the registered ones, and as for the rest, they've largely confined them to gun safes and basements. They win either way.
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Posted: 12/9/2013 11:35:37 AM EDT
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I did pick up one of DD's mag locks, along with an extended rear pin, and pinned to 10 30 round mag...IF I decide to keep my M4gry in state, I'll swap parts (of course keping the old parts for when I get out of this shithole), and have a non-detachable mag M4gry that still looks like an M4gry.
Not a perfect solution, but it doesn't have to be registered, and I can take it out and shoot it.... Not bad to have the parts in the back pocket..... Talked with Dean quite a bit about it, he has talked extensively with the SP idiots...they said his mag lock will satisfy the law, but of course no paperwork or letters....YMMV, but it seems like the best "compliant" fix to me. I looked at/tried those whacky looking banana handle no stock things...didn't FEEL too bad, but, man, just plain fuggly. As I said, I'd rather have the fixed mag solution.... |
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Posted: 12/9/2013 12:32:49 PM EDT
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I did pick up one of DD's mag locks, along with an extended rear pin, and pinned to 10 30 round mag...IF I decide to keep my M4gry in state, I'll swap parts (of course keping the old parts for when I get out of this shithole), and have a non-detachable mag M4gry that still looks like an M4gry. Not a perfect solution, but it doesn't have to be registered, and I can take it out and shoot it.... Not bad to have the parts in the back pocket..... Talked with Dean quite a bit about it, he has talked extensively with the SP idiots...they said his mag lock will satisfy the law, but of course no paperwork or letters....YMMV, but it seems like the best "compliant" fix to me. I looked at/tried those whacky looking banana handle no stock things...didn't FEEL too bad, but, man, just plain fuggly. As I said, I'd rather have the fixed mag solution.... Do you have any pics? |
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Posted: 12/9/2013 12:35:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I did pick up one of DD's mag locks, along with an extended rear pin, and pinned to 10 30 round mag...IF I decide to keep my M4gry in state, I'll swap parts (of course keping the old parts for when I get out of this shithole), and have a non-detachable mag M4gry that still looks like an M4gry. Not a perfect solution, but it doesn't have to be registered, and I can take it out and shoot it.... Not bad to have the parts in the back pocket..... Talked with Dean quite a bit about it, he has talked extensively with the SP idiots...they said his mag lock will satisfy the law, but of course no paperwork or letters....YMMV, but it seems like the best "compliant" fix to me. I looked at/tried those whacky looking banana handle no stock things...didn't FEEL too bad, but, man, just plain fuggly. As I said, I'd rather have the fixed mag solution.... Except train or practice with it.  This kind of thing isn't so bad on my precision AR, but I need to be able to practice mag changes, clearing stoppages, etc on my "fighting" carbines.
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Posted: 12/9/2013 3:34:52 PM EDT
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Did you ask them about what documentation they have on file to support the following? When you get it please take a few pics and post them in this thread. TIA Magazine Lock holds magazine in exactly the same way asyour firearms original magazine catch, but makes it non removeable. Once the firearm has a "fixed magazine" it is no longer classified as an assault weapon, no matter what features are on it, and therfor does not require registration. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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that's different from what they had at the Rochester Gun Show in Sept. must be they have refined things a bit and actually made the product available for self installers. eta: i just ordered one to see what exactly it is. i am still tinkering with my work around, but always looking for a cleaner look, and better way. Did you ask them about what documentation they have on file to support the following? When you get it please take a few pics and post them in this thread. TIA Magazine Lock holds magazine in exactly the same way asyour firearms original magazine catch, but makes it non removeable. Once the firearm has a "fixed magazine" it is no longer classified as an assault weapon, no matter what features are on it, and therfor does not require registration. they have nothing in writing. NYSP told them as long as the mag wasn't detachable it wasn't an assault weapon. would not put it in writing. they aren't going to tell people how to do a work around. i will post pics when i get it, including any literature it comes with. |
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Posted: 12/15/2013 9:10:27 AM EDT
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ok. got it a few days ago, but i have been working and been dealing with a head cold and now SNOW!!
anyways, here it is. the parts:  " />
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i put the parts together outside the lower so you get the idea: 
then i added the 10 round mag and installed into a stripped lower. dry fit only, it's not permanent. i will cross that bridge when needed.  " />
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this is the back side. now the guns that DD had at the Rochester Gun Show, had a tig weld over the threads to make it permanent. how/if you make it permanent is up to you. i'd say a weld or red locktite would be permanent, and anything less.....well, you know. my plan if needed is to use red locktite and drill out the allen head on the screw, so it can't be turned out even if someone were to try to heat it up and back it out in order to prove it wasn't permanent.  " />
well that's that. it sucks, but doesn't have to be registered. |
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Posted: 12/15/2013 3:05:16 PM EDT
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One would think a registered gun smith would have to make the fix not individuals. I think the ATF would have to come up with the design to be approved not the state of NY. What a fucked up law.
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Posted: 12/15/2013 3:22:43 PM EDT
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One would think a registered gun smith would have to make the fix not individuals. I think the ATF would have to come up with the design to be approved not the state of NY. What a fucked up law. The ATF has nothing to do with it, nor do they want to. This is NY's shit storm, and they offer no advice on how to comply other than register. |
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