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Posted: 12/4/2007 10:34:16 AM EDT

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Well then it's nice to know that a couple of guys in uniform should be able to just show up with flag draped casket full of C-4 and be given a free pass.

That is a total fabrication and not what happened, nor could it happen.

Oh, you mean that there should be regulations and protocols in place that need to be observed? Didn't you just get done telling us that people who follow them need to be disciplined?

Posted: 12/4/2007 10:44:53 AM EDT

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Well then it's nice to know that a couple of guys in uniform should be able to just show up with flag draped casket full of C-4 and be given a free pass.

That is a total fabrication and not what happened, nor could it happen.

Oh, you mean that there should be regulations and protocols in place that need to be observed? Didn't you just get done telling us that people who follow them need to be disciplined?

No, the only safety protocals necessary is to arm everyone.

Posted: 12/4/2007 10:55:26 AM EDT

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Well then it's nice to know that a couple of guys in uniform should be able to just show up with flag draped casket full of C-4 and be given a free pass.

That is a total fabrication and not what happened, nor could it happen.

Oh, you mean that there should be regulations and protocols in place that need to be observed? Didn't you just get done telling us that people who follow them need to be disciplined?

No, the only safety protocals necessary is to arm everyone.

I don't think that is going to work so well on a crowded airplane.

Posted: 12/4/2007 11:04:19 AM EDT

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Well then it's nice to know that a couple of guys in uniform should be able to just show up with flag draped casket full of C-4 and be given a free pass.

That is a total fabrication and not what happened, nor could it happen.

Oh, you mean that there should be regulations and protocols in place that need to be observed? Didn't you just get done telling us that people who follow them need to be disciplined?

No, the only safety protocals necessary is to arm everyone.

I don't think that is going to work so well on a crowded airplane.

Neither will it stop people from sneaking explosives onboard.

Posted: 12/4/2007 4:27:25 PM EDT

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While traveling through SEATAC returning to Iraq from my R&R, nearly the same type of thing happened to me. I was in uniform and large female TSA employee clearly relished making an example out of me. I was lucky to escape without the "full cavity search".

When I passed through Dallas, the TSA employees there treated me like gold.

I hope this exposure gets some things changed.

Posted: 12/4/2007 5:59:39 PM EDT

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It has yet to be decided what, if any, disciplinary action will be taken against the screener at Sea-Tac.

If the screener followed existing protocol, no discipline is necessary or warranted.

BS, i lost count of how many well paying jobs I was fired from for making a stand on what is right and just.

Just following orders to keep a job is the most cowardly thing a man or women can do.

Since when is treating soldiers the same as everyone else is wrong and unjust? Give me a break.

Is it really unfathomable that someone with nefarious intents could discover this double standard and dress as a soldier to bypass security?

According to you soldiers are war criminals anyway, right? They should be glad they were only strip searched by TSA.

One wonders were they would get the military ID with Computer chip inbedded in it....etc......If in uniform and on offical travel they would also be in possesion of offical military travel documents/Leave paperwork....

Posted: 12/4/2007 6:09:07 PM EDT

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It has yet to be decided what, if any, disciplinary action will be taken against the screener at Sea-Tac.

If the screener followed existing protocol, no discipline is necessary or warranted.

BS, i lost count of how many well paying jobs I was fired from for making a stand on what is right and just.

Just following orders to keep a job is the most cowardly thing a man or women can do.

Since when is treating soldiers the same as everyone else is wrong and unjust? Give me a break.

Is it really unfathomable that someone with nefarious intents could discover this double standard and dress as a soldier to bypass security?

According to you soldiers are war criminals anyway, right? They should be glad they were only strip searched by TSA.

One wonders were they would get the military ID with Computer chip inbedded in it....etc......If in uniform and on offical travel they would also be in possesion of offical military travel documents/Leave paperwork....

...The port of Seattle cop with credentials as well....Who happens to be escorting the soldiers.... The guys with the honor guard on the tarmac with a casket...with a dead body in it...

Posted: 12/4/2007 11:20:34 PM EDT

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It has yet to be decided what, if any, disciplinary action will be taken against the screener at Sea-Tac.

If the screener followed existing protocol, no discipline is necessary or warranted.

BS, i lost count of how many well paying jobs I was fired from for making a stand on what is right and just.

Just following orders to keep a job is the most cowardly thing a man or women can do.

Since when is treating soldiers the same as everyone else is wrong and unjust? Give me a break.

Is it really unfathomable that someone with nefarious intents could discover this double standard and dress as a soldier to bypass security?

According to you soldiers are war criminals anyway, right? They should be glad they were only strip searched by TSA.

One wonders were they would get the military ID with Computer chip inbedded in it....etc......If in uniform and on offical travel they would also be in possesion of offical military travel documents/Leave paperwork....

Paperwork and ID can and have been forged. If a genuine military ID is needed, a soldier could be killed an their official ID used. Someone could walk up to you, pop you in the head, and be on a flight out of Spokane or Seattle before you were ever missed.

Other than your own seeming desire to be more equal than the rest of the animals, I see no reason why servicemen should be any more exempt from security measures than anyone else. It simply creates a loophole that could easily be exploited.

Posted: 12/5/2007 6:12:39 AM EDT

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It has yet to be decided what, if any, disciplinary action will be taken against the screener at Sea-Tac.

If the screener followed existing protocol, no discipline is necessary or warranted.

BS, i lost count of how many well paying jobs I was fired from for making a stand on what is right and just.

Just following orders to keep a job is the most cowardly thing a man or women can do.

Since when is treating soldiers the same as everyone else is wrong and unjust? Give me a break.

Is it really unfathomable that someone with nefarious intents could discover this double standard and dress as a soldier to bypass security?

According to you soldiers are war criminals anyway, right? They should be glad they were only strip searched by TSA.

One wonders were they would get the military ID with Computer chip inbedded in it....etc......If in uniform and on offical travel they would also be in possesion of offical military travel documents/Leave paperwork....

Paperwork and ID can and have been forged. If a genuine military ID is needed, a soldier could be killed an their official ID used. Someone could walk up to you, pop you in the head, and be on a flight out of Spokane or Seattle before you were ever missed.

Other than your own seeming desire to be more equal than the rest of the animals, I see no reason why servicemen should be any more exempt from security measures than anyone else. It simply creates a loophole that could easily be exploited.

Riiiiight......and the moon is made of cheese......

Posted: 12/5/2007 6:21:55 AM EDT

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It has yet to be decided what, if any, disciplinary action will be taken against the screener at Sea-Tac.

If the screener followed existing protocol, no discipline is necessary or warranted.

BS, i lost count of how many well paying jobs I was fired from for making a stand on what is right and just.

Just following orders to keep a job is the most cowardly thing a man or women can do.

Since when is treating soldiers the same as everyone else is wrong and unjust? Give me a break.

Is it really unfathomable that someone with nefarious intents could discover this double standard and dress as a soldier to bypass security?

According to you soldiers are war criminals anyway, right? They should be glad they were only strip searched by TSA.

One wonders were they would get the military ID with Computer chip inbedded in it....etc......If in uniform and on offical travel they would also be in possesion of offical military travel documents/Leave paperwork....

Paperwork and ID can and have been forged. If a genuine military ID is needed, a soldier could be killed an their official ID used. Someone could walk up to you, pop you in the head, and be on a flight out of Spokane or Seattle before you were ever missed.

Other than your own seeming desire to be more equal than the rest of the animals, I see no reason why servicemen should be any more exempt from security measures than anyone else. It simply creates a loophole that could easily be exploited.

Riiiiight......and the moon is made of cheese......

Yeah, and no one could hijack an airplane with a simple boxcutter. Until someone did.

Posted: 12/5/2007 6:29:52 AM EDT

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It has yet to be decided what, if any, disciplinary action will be taken against the screener at Sea-Tac.

If the screener followed existing protocol, no discipline is necessary or warranted.

BS, i lost count of how many well paying jobs I was fired from for making a stand on what is right and just.

Just following orders to keep a job is the most cowardly thing a man or women can do.

Since when is treating soldiers the same as everyone else is wrong and unjust? Give me a break.

Is it really unfathomable that someone with nefarious intents could discover this double standard and dress as a soldier to bypass security?

According to you soldiers are war criminals anyway, right? They should be glad they were only strip searched by TSA.

One wonders were they would get the military ID with Computer chip inbedded in it....etc......If in uniform and on offical travel they would also be in possesion of offical military travel documents/Leave paperwork....

Paperwork and ID can and have been forged. If a genuine military ID is needed, a soldier could be killed an their official ID used. Someone could walk up to you, pop you in the head, and be on a flight out of Spokane or Seattle before you were ever missed.

Other than your own seeming desire to be more equal than the rest of the animals, I see no reason why servicemen should be any more exempt from security measures than anyone else. It simply creates a loophole that could easily be exploited.

Riiiiight......and the moon is made of cheese......

Yeah, and no one could hijack an airplane with a simple boxcutter. Until someone did.

Military personnel escorting deceased service members shouldnt be searched, its thats simple, I know you find it hard to understand...I have no problem being searched for any other reason....There shouldnt be any need if the PAO coordinated properly, they have military ID(which is far more difficult to forge than a regular drivers lic) and orders, then their is always the casket they are escorting......Its not a governement conspiracy so loosen up the foil......

Posted: 12/5/2007 6:56:42 AM EDT

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It has yet to be decided what, if any, disciplinary action will be taken against the screener at Sea-Tac.

If the screener followed existing protocol, no discipline is necessary or warranted.

BS, i lost count of how many well paying jobs I was fired from for making a stand on what is right and just.

Just following orders to keep a job is the most cowardly thing a man or women can do.

Since when is treating soldiers the same as everyone else is wrong and unjust? Give me a break.

Is it really unfathomable that someone with nefarious intents could discover this double standard and dress as a soldier to bypass security?

According to you soldiers are war criminals anyway, right? They should be glad they were only strip searched by TSA.

One wonders were they would get the military ID with Computer chip inbedded in it....etc......If in uniform and on offical travel they would also be in possesion of offical military travel documents/Leave paperwork....

Paperwork and ID can and have been forged. If a genuine military ID is needed, a soldier could be killed an their official ID used. Someone could walk up to you, pop you in the head, and be on a flight out of Spokane or Seattle before you were ever missed.

Other than your own seeming desire to be more equal than the rest of the animals, I see no reason why servicemen should be any more exempt from security measures than anyone else. It simply creates a loophole that could easily be exploited.

Riiiiight......and the moon is made of cheese......

Yeah, and no one could hijack an airplane with a simple boxcutter. Until someone did.

Military personnel escorting deceased service members shouldnt be searched, its thats simple, I know you find it hard to understand...I have no problem being searched for any other reason....There shouldnt be any need if the PAO coordinated properly, they have military ID(which is far more difficult to forge than a regular drivers lic) and orders, then their is always the casket they are escorting......Its not a governement conspiracy so loosen up the foil......

If we are going to have security measures, everyone should be held to the same standard. To do otherwise creates an opportunity for exploitation.

And no one said it was government conspiracy, junior. Try to keep up. Or was a 9/11 a government conspiracy, too?

Posted: 12/5/2007 7:10:13 AM EDT

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If we are going to have security measures, everyone should be held to the same standard. To do otherwise creates an opportunity for exploitation.

And no one said it was government conspiracy, junior. Try to keep up. Or was a 9/11 a government conspiracy, too?

An opportunity for exploitation? This is based on your extensive knowledge and training in the security field I presume?? Have you flown lately? TSA and the illusion of security it provides, is exactly that....Anyone with enough motivation training and knowledge can get by these people. I dont believe National Security is going to be compromised if we allow burial details, with proper ID and escorted by police to go by security....Junior? What you think because your older, spent 5 years as a tanker and work on trains that somehow makes you my superior?? try again......

Posted: 12/5/2007 7:23:30 AM EDT

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If we are going to have security measures, everyone should be held to the same standard. To do otherwise creates an opportunity for exploitation.

And no one said it was government conspiracy, junior. Try to keep up. Or was a 9/11 a government conspiracy, too?

An opportunity for exploitation? This is based on your extensive knowledge and training in the security field I presume?? Have you flown lately? TSA and the illusion of security it provides, is exactly that....Anyone with enough motivation training and knowledge can get by these people. I dont believe National Security is going to be compromised if we allow burial details, with proper ID and escorted by police to go by security....Junior? What you think because your older, spent 5 years as a tanker and work on trains that somehow makes you my superior?? try again......

Well then, why bother with security at all.

I don't have a problem with provisions that allow burial details to go through a security checkpoint seperate from the general public and then be allowed to board the plane. But some sort of security measures do need to be taken for everyone. And if uniformed servicemen are going to go through security and board the aircraft with the general public, then they get treated the same as the general public. If that is too much to ask then perhaps they should be on a military flight.

Now keep trying to argue that you should be more equal than others, junior...

Posted: 12/5/2007 4:56:28 PM EDT

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Posted: 12/5/2007 4:57:00 PM EDT

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If we are going to have security measures, everyone should be held to the same standard. To do otherwise creates an opportunity for exploitation.

And no one said it was government conspiracy, junior. Try to keep up. Or was a 9/11 a government conspiracy, too?

An opportunity for exploitation? This is based on your extensive knowledge and training in the security field I presume?? Have you flown lately? TSA and the illusion of security it provides, is exactly that....Anyone with enough motivation training and knowledge can get by these people. I dont believe National Security is going to be compromised if we allow burial details, with proper ID and escorted by police to go by security....Junior? What you think because your older, spent 5 years as a tanker and work on trains that somehow makes you my superior?? try again......

Well then, why bother with security at all.

I don't have a problem with provisions that allow burial details to go through a security checkpoint seperate from the general public and then be allowed to board the plane. But some sort of security measures do need to be taken for everyone. And if uniformed servicemen are going to go through security and board the aircraft with the general public, then they get treated the same as the general public. If that is too much to ask then perhaps they should be on a military flight.

Now keep trying to argue that you should be more equal than others, junior...

If you had somekind of english reading comprehension skills, you would have read that I wrote, that I had no problem being searched in uniform. I have on many occasions, twice going to and coming back from Iraq, no less. I said that burial details should be exempt.....And in real life, some people arnt others equals(smarter, faster, better looking, more educated, make more money, better more important job etc, etc....deal with it or not)..

Posted: 12/5/2007 5:18:50 PM EDT

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and we're done with this.

Posted: 12/5/2007 5:19:00 PM EDT

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