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Posted: 5/14/2021 8:20:46 AM EDT
So there's JagarWerks, ATEi and Battlewerks.
Can't decide which one to use for my G43 and G19 milling for a Trijicon RMR and RMRcc. ETA: ended up picking JagerWerks, took about 6 weeks with refinishing and $185 total  |
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Posted: 5/14/2021 8:27:03 AM EDT
[#1]
I would buy a new Brownells slide and channel liner the price would be similar after shipping anyways. I here Jagerwerks is good.
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Posted: 5/14/2021 8:34:38 AM EDT
[#2]
ATEI is the best in the business and has a fast turn around, so why use anyone else?
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Posted: 5/14/2021 8:47:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: ATEI is the best in the business and has a fast turn around, so why use anyone else? Because I could describe battlewerx the same way? I've done 3 slides with them now and they do it right and are fast fuck if you don't get it refinished, I haven't had them finish anything though, so can't comment( I just blue and oil the spot) an |
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Posted: 5/14/2021 8:51:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because I could describe battlewerx the same way? I've done 3 slides with them now and they do it right and are fast fuck if you don't get it refinished, I haven't had them finish anything though, so can't comment( I just blue and oil the spot) an Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: ATEI is the best in the business and has a fast turn around, so why use anyone else? Because I could describe battlewerx the same way? I've done 3 slides with them now and they do it right and are fast fuck if you don't get it refinished, I haven't had them finish anything though, so can't comment( I just blue and oil the spot) an so the milled area you just blue it yourself? i know if i choose to refinish the slide it's nitride, i'm not a fan of removing the OEM finish on it. |
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Posted: 5/14/2021 8:51:47 AM EDT
[#5]
I had ATEI do some mold inserts a long time ago for MegaTech
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Posted: 5/14/2021 9:16:58 AM EDT
[#6]
JagerWerks have done several of mine. Top quality, fast, and easy to work with.
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Posted: 5/14/2021 9:29:05 AM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Because I could describe battlewerx the same way? I've done 3 slides with them now and they do it right and are fast fuck if you don't get it refinished, I haven't had them finish anything though, so can't comment( I just blue and oil the spot) an I've gone through Battlewerx twice. Both done right and quick. |
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Posted: 5/14/2021 9:44:10 AM EDT
[#8]
it doesn't seems like any of them is a sponsor here, not that it matter - just curious
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Posted: 5/14/2021 9:47:13 AM EDT
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Maple Leaf Firearms (Texas) did my Gen3 for an SRO pocket. Jagerwerks (Michigan) did my Gen4 for a DPP pocket. Both had around 45-60 day turnaround with milling and treatment. Neither slide had any additional milling other than red dot pockets. Both did fine work.
Not sure if there’s a local place to me in SC but would really like to be able to walk into/deliver in-person the next slide I get milled for a red dot. ETA: Jagerwerks includes a nice ball point pen as swag in the box... ETAx2: Also, I noticed Jagerwerks didn’t mill the pocket for the DPP as MLF miles the pocket for the SRO. I do not know if that’s just a shop preference or if the red dots required it. |
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Posted: 5/14/2021 10:22:08 AM EDT
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There is Primary machine as well. Ive used them and was happy.
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Posted: 5/14/2021 10:22:26 AM EDT
[#11]
Buying a pre-cut slide is the way I went. No downtime for your gun, and you really are not paying that much more.
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Posted: 5/14/2021 11:36:35 AM EDT
[#12]
I have experience with Jagerwerks and Agency Arms AOS
Both have been outstanding.... I'd trust either 100% |
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Posted: 5/14/2021 11:38:25 AM EDT
[#13]
Battlewerx doesn’t have you send in your red dot for a perfect fit to the slide, ATEI does. So you have a perfect fit and aren’t at the mercy of a machine shops tolerances vs Trijicons or whoever’s tolerances.
So yes, ATEI is still better. Personally I run plates as of now and I’m fine with that, but if I’m going to send my slide off to be milled, then it’s going to be to the place that does it best and that’s ATEI. |
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Posted: 5/14/2021 11:52:06 AM EDT
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If you want the fastest, look at NC Engravers. I sent them a P365 slide to be milled for a 507K and I shit you not, they had it done in about 24 hours including cerakote. That's a little too fast, makes me concerned about QC, but it looks good, everything fit perfect, and the finish is holding up fine so no complaints yet.
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Posted: 5/14/2021 1:36:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you want the fastest, look at NC Engravers. I sent them a P365 slide to be milled for a 507K and I shit you not, they had it done in about 24 hours including cerakote. That's a little too fast, makes me concerned about QC, but it looks good, everything fit perfect, and the finish is holding up fine so no complaints yet. Looked at their website, tempting. I want to get my VP9 milled for an RMR. That turnaround time is insane, I don't want to be without the slide for several weeks. |
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Posted: 5/14/2021 2:42:04 PM EDT
[#16]
BattleWerx
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Posted: 5/14/2021 3:22:47 PM EDT
[#17]
the fit on my G17.3 slide milled by BattleWerx for a Trij RMR2 was so precise that I originally thought it was wrong.. the sight had to be lowered carefully not to cant it... I don't think the mounting studs are needed as the concave fit is so tight and centers the sight so well only need the screws to hold it down
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Posted: 5/14/2021 3:54:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you want the fastest, look at NC Engravers. I sent them a P365 slide to be milled for a 507K and I shit you not, they had it done in about 24 hours including cerakote. That's a little too fast, makes me concerned about QC, but it looks good, everything fit perfect, and the finish is holding up fine so no complaints yet. |
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Posted: 5/15/2021 10:44:04 PM EDT
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For those that got your slides milled, did you have them refinish with nitride or did you blue the bare metal spot yourself?
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Posted: 5/16/2021 12:06:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: For those that got your slides milled, did you have them refinish with nitride or did you blue the bare metal spot yourself? |
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Posted: 5/16/2021 12:13:34 AM EDT
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Quoted: Can't decide which one to use for my G43 and G19 milling for a RMR. Make sure you consider rear iron sight forward (unless you plan to run an SRO). |
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Posted: 5/16/2021 9:40:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: By "RMR" I assume you mean Trijicon RMR. Some folks use the term "RMR" to refer to MRDS's in general since the Trijicon RMR has been the gold standard for over a decade. Make sure you consider rear iron sight forward (unless you plan to run an SRO). Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Can't decide which one to use for my G43 and G19 milling for a RMR. Make sure you consider rear iron sight forward (unless you plan to run an SRO). |
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Posted: 5/16/2021 10:36:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It'll be in front of the RMRcc for co-witness, just need to find suppressor height ones for the 43 Iron sights serve no purpose with an MRDS except in the highly unlikely event your $450+ Trijicon RMR / RMRcc fails. Rear iron sight forward simply minimizes the likelihood of your eyes being drawn to the iron sights. The sight radius is shorter, however, you'll find you're still proficient with the iron sights at a self-defense distance. Out of curiosity, why are you going with rear iron sight forward with the G43 / RMRcc and not with the G19 / RMR? |
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Posted: 5/16/2021 10:42:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Having the rear iron sight in front of or behind the MRDS doesn't affect co-witness. Of course, you're after lower one-third co-witness (or even lower one-quarter co-witness with an SRO). Iron sights serve no purpose with an MRDS except in the highly unlikely event your $450+ Trijicon RMR / RMRcc fails. Rear iron sight forward simply minimizes the likelihood of your eyes being drawn to the iron sights. The sight radius is shorter, however, you'll find you're still proficient with the iron sights at a self-defense distance. Out of curiosity, why are you going with rear iron sight forward with the G43 / RMRcc and not with the G19 / RMR? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It'll be in front of the RMRcc for co-witness, just need to find suppressor height ones for the 43 Iron sights serve no purpose with an MRDS except in the highly unlikely event your $450+ Trijicon RMR / RMRcc fails. Rear iron sight forward simply minimizes the likelihood of your eyes being drawn to the iron sights. The sight radius is shorter, however, you'll find you're still proficient with the iron sights at a self-defense distance. Out of curiosity, why are you going with rear iron sight forward with the G43 / RMRcc and not with the G19 / RMR? |
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Posted: 5/16/2021 11:57:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Valid points as I'm been going back and forth on it, or maybe just the standard height sights so I don't have to buy the suppressor height ones or no irons entirely. |
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Posted: 5/16/2021 12:09:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you're not betting your life on the Glock (i.e., range toy, competition, ...), you could certainly forgo the rear iron sight. JagerWerks offers a "race cut" which positions the MRDS at the far rear of the slide with no rear iron sight. Personally, I'd always want a (suppressor-height) front iron sight. Some guys, in the absence of a rear iron sight, just paint (?) a small mark on the rear / center of the MRDS. You'll typically train with the dot completely dimmed / disabled. On occasion, I put black electrical tape over the entire lens. Again, this assumes you're worried about the RMR failing or becoming completely obstructed. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Valid points as I'm been going back and forth on it, or maybe just the standard height sights so I don't have to buy the suppressor height ones or no irons entirely. |
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Posted: 5/16/2021 12:35:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: the G43 and G19 are my CCW, so I think having irons is a good idea. i've read about not having the irons and trying to find your red dot since the view is small I'd discourage you from using the front iron sight as a crutch to find the dot. IMO, you're better off removing the iron sights altogether. Once you can consistently find the dot, you can reintroduce the iron sights for backup. Just my $0.02. |
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Posted: 5/16/2021 3:22:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Spend the money on a good pair of suppressor-height sights. Some guys like tritium. Some guys don't. The general consensus seems to be you want black outlines front and rear. I have Trijicon green tritium suppressor-height sights with black outlines front and rear on two G44's and two G19's. I'd discourage you from using the front iron sight as a crutch to find the dot. IMO, you're better off removing the iron sights altogether. Once you can consistently find the dot, you can reintroduce the iron sights for backup. Just my $0.02. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: the G43 and G19 are my CCW, so I think having irons is a good idea. i've read about not having the irons and trying to find your red dot since the view is small I'd discourage you from using the front iron sight as a crutch to find the dot. IMO, you're better off removing the iron sights altogether. Once you can consistently find the dot, you can reintroduce the iron sights for backup. Just my $0.02. A method I’m using that seems to have worked very well for me is sweeping up from prone instead of pushing/driving the muzzle out in front. Where I was a more “head down shooter”, I now try to maintain head straight, or at least much straighter than I was more accustomed to, shoulders down (avoid the “scrunch”), bends at elbows. Maybe it’ll work for you, maybe not. |
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Posted: 5/16/2021 3:29:34 PM EDT
[#29]
Quoted: So there's JagarWerks, ATEi and Battlewerks. Can't decide which one to use for my G43 and G19 milling for a Trijicon RMR and RMRcc. Battlewerx did a beautiful job on my G45 and had a pretty nice turn around time. |
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Posted: 5/16/2021 3:53:13 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Looked at their website, tempting. I want to get my VP9 milled for an RMR. That turnaround time is insane, I don't want to be without the slide for several weeks. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: If you want the fastest, look at NC Engravers. I sent them a P365 slide to be milled for a 507K and I shit you not, they had it done in about 24 hours including cerakote. That's a little too fast, makes me concerned about QC, but it looks good, everything fit perfect, and the finish is holding up fine so no complaints yet. Looked at their website, tempting. I want to get my VP9 milled for an RMR. That turnaround time is insane, I don't want to be without the slide for several weeks. Some nice gun porn at their homepage. I don't really have anything like that but have not even seen some of these finishes: NC Engravers make pretty Guns 
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Posted: 5/17/2021 8:41:12 AM EDT
[#31]
I just paid for Jagerwerks, off go my slides this morning - maybe next time i will try Battlewerks with my HKs
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Posted: 5/17/2021 8:56:30 AM EDT
[#32]
Any of the big names will do.
I go with Battlewerx. Jagerwerks doesn't mill as deep fwiw. Although it's not a functional issue. |
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Posted: 5/17/2021 11:49:56 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I just paid for Jagerwerks, off go my slides this morning A-B-C-D-E-F-G-H, I got a Glock in KalamazooHope you got the black nitride. |
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Posted: 5/17/2021 11:53:50 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Wise choice. A-B-C-D-E-F-G-H, I got a Glock in KalamazooHope you got the black nitride. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I just paid for Jagerwerks, off go my slides this morning A-B-C-D-E-F-G-H, I got a Glock in KalamazooHope you got the black nitride. 
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Posted: 5/17/2021 11:54:38 AM EDT
[#35]
ATEi
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Posted: 5/17/2021 11:57:41 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Battlewerx doesn't have you send in your red dot for a perfect fit to the slide, ATEI does. So you have a perfect fit and aren't at the mercy of a machine shops tolerances vs Trijicons or whoever's tolerances. So yes, ATEI is still better. Personally I run plates as of now and I'm fine with that, but if I'm going to send my slide off to be milled, then it's going to be to the place that does it best and that's ATEI. |
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Posted: 5/17/2021 12:25:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: i think i choose them because i go to k-zoo and GR for business a lot from ohio, maybe it was just a distance thing and paid extra for $60 nitride option too and front of optic dovetail FWIW, all of my RMR's have sealing plates. Rear iron sight forward is a winner. |
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Posted: 5/17/2021 12:57:54 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I was born and raised 20 minutes from there, so it's a bit of a sentimental choice for me, too. However, I wouldn't have made the choice had JagerWerks not been the best option in the country. FWIW, all of my RMR's have sealing plates. Rear iron sight forward is a winner. |
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Posted: 5/17/2021 4:16:22 PM EDT
[#39]
ATEi with front serrations, pro cut and slide refinish. Simply perfect in every way.
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Posted: 5/17/2021 4:21:31 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Battlewerx doesn’t have you send in your red dot for a perfect fit to the slide, ATEI does. So you have a perfect fit and aren’t at the mercy of a machine shops tolerances vs Trijicons or whoever’s tolerances. Well that sounds super special but isn't that a double edge sword? So ATEI mills your slide for your specific sight and then later on you need (or decide) to replace it/upgrade it to different Trijicon optic but Trijicon's tolerances are so bad that your new optic doesn't fit your super special milling.  |
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Posted: 5/19/2021 8:27:39 AM EDT
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Check out DP Custom Works in NC.
I looked at the web site, called him and talked and then drove my P07 down to him a few days later. No issues (milled for a Holoson and then had the slide nitride finished). dp custom works llc.glock-optic-cut |
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Posted: 7/3/2021 3:55:42 PM EDT
[#42]
Just got it back today from Jagerwerks, I was surprised they didn't reinstall back my iron sights as I have requested and it was in a baggie
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Posted: 7/3/2021 5:01:48 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Just got it back today from Jagerwerks, I was surprised they didn't reinstall back my iron sights as I have requested and it was in a baggie |
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Posted: 7/3/2021 5:06:17 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So ATEI mills your slide for your specific sight and then later on you need (or decide) to replace it/upgrade it to different Trijicon optic but Trijicon's tolerances are so bad that your new optic doesn't fit your super special milling. |
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Posted: 7/3/2021 5:13:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's odd. Did you have the slide milled / recoated or just recoated? I included my Trijicon RM06, suppressor-height sights, barrel and recoil spring assembly. If you're just having a slide recoated, I believe they ask you not to include the iron sights or internals. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Just got it back today from Jagerwerks, I was surprised they didn't reinstall back my iron sights as I have requested and it was in a baggie |
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Posted: 7/3/2021 5:35:51 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I got it milled for my RMRcc and nitride recoated. It's annoying because it'll delay my CCW now and I will have to buy tools to get it put back on because I don't think I want to send it back to them and wait. A sight pusher isn't a bad investment. However, you may want to check with your local gunsmiths. |
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Posted: 7/3/2021 5:37:46 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I would definitely contact them. Please let us know what you find out. A sight pusher isn't a bad investment. However, you may want to check with your local gunsmiths. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I got it milled for my RMRcc and nitride recoated. It's annoying because it'll delay my CCW now and I will have to buy tools to get it put back on because I don't think I want to send it back to them and wait. A sight pusher isn't a bad investment. However, you may want to check with your local gunsmiths. |
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Posted: 7/3/2021 6:20:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:i emailed right away after i got my package ... By the way, you get added kudos for rear iron sight forward. |
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Posted: 7/3/2021 7:12:26 PM EDT
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+1 vote for DP Custom Works for your next slide.
2 great experiences, perfect tolerances, less than 6 week turn around each time. And they re-installed sights each time that were damn near perfectly zeroed. Well worth the fair price in my opinion. |
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Posted: 7/5/2021 9:05:27 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: And their answer was they simply forgot? No compensation? No bueno! By the way, you get added kudos for rear iron sight forward. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted:i emailed right away after i got my package ... By the way, you get added kudos for rear iron sight forward. |
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