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Posted: 12/12/2018 9:51:29 PM EDT
I've been looking for a S&W 36 or 60 for a while and they seem to be unicorns around my area, with according unicorn pricing.
I specifically want a 5-shot 38 Spl and I DON'T want a Charter (whatever iteration). I have no experience with the Ruger LCR series and I am intrigued by them and their price. Are they worth the reputation? |
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My summer CC piece is an LCR in 38. Super light. Great trigger. Swapped the front sight for an XS big dot. Owned a 642 and prefer the LCR.
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I like the S&W 442/642 for the looks, but that's about it. I carry the Ruger LCR in .38 +P as a backup gun in uniformed patrol. It's ugly as sin, but 1) it's light enough to carry comfortably on 12+ hour shifts while not being a pain to shoot .38 +P Winchester PDX1 or Speer Gold Dot, 2) Much smoother factory trigger than it's S&W counterpart, and 3) unlike it's S&W counterpart, you have the option of changing out the front sight of you desire an actual sight picture beyond what a dull "ramp and gutter" can offer. I have the XS front sight on my LCR, which just "pops" out at you. Hi-Viz makes a decent fiber optic sight, too.
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I have a Bodyguard 38 Special.
I am waiting for a Ruger LCR in 38 to show up also I like the Smith so far. The grip is great and it really soaks up recoil. |
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My EDC is a 640 357mag. I bitch about the weight til I shoot it. Then remember why I haven't sold it.
If I could change one thing on it I would put a sights like the Pro series has. |
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This is what you need to look for. You can still find nice one's for sale cheap but you have to look. |
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Ive got a bunch of J-frames and carry them as a BUG for 22+ years as a plain clothes LEO
I bought a .38 LCR a few years back and really like it. great trigger... I'd recommend the 642 Airweight as an all around gun but I prefer the 342 Airlite .38 loaded with Gold Dot 135g +P for carry |
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Thanks everyone.
Looks like I'm gonna start looking hard at the LCR's after Christmas. |
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Taurus.
They sell every one they make and have expanded production into a new plant. There are a lot of happy revolver owners, and for all the online complaints, I've read about as many S&W owners with the same. I'd like a S&W, but not for a $150 premium on top of it. There is now also Colt. They are back in the game. Rugers are also out there. One thought - if price is a workable thing - a 5 shot 9mm moon clip is a favorite these days when you can find one. They don't last very long, people are on top of them like a duck on a June bug. There are advantages. |
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I've owned several LCR's and they're good guns with good traits like an easily replaceable front sight and smooth trigger pull, but I prefer the trigger reset on the S&W's.
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My little M&P 340 keeps not getting sold.
I think why do I need this gun with my Glock 43 Then I handle it with its Hogue Tamers and fall in love all over. |
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I’m carrying a SW 649 on an OWB holster as I type.
Since it’s winter here (jacket weather) a Ruger LCRx rides in the coat pocket of my Carhart coat. I’ve had both for many years and never an issue with either. The trigger on the Ruger is a little smoother IMHO, and in the summer that is the one that get carried the most. |
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Quoted: Why a 5 shot? Why not a real 6 shooter like a Colt Detective? https://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/12/63/91/01/20171012.jpg View Quote Nice Colt, by the way. |
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I kind of got a thing for Cheifs Specials. The model 36/60 is the perfect pistol imo. I like the heavier weight over alloy and the triggers are so much better not to mention the recoil. https://www.okshooters.com/attachments/20181116_140113-jpg.127208/ https://www.okshooters.com/attachments/20181116_135848-jpg.127207/ View Quote |
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I kind of got a thing for Cheifs Specials. The model 36/60 is the perfect pistol imo. I like the heavier weight over alloy and the triggers are so much better not to mention the recoil. https://www.okshooters.com/attachments/20181116_140113-jpg.127208/ https://www.okshooters.com/attachments/20181116_135848-jpg.127207/ View Quote |
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I have 3 S&W snubbies (2 J-frames and a K-frame). I love them all. A couple of my friends have LCR’s and they love them, I’ve shot them and like them a lot as well, but I’ll keep the Smiths that I have. I carry a 442 no-lock with CT grips the most of the 3.
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Quoted: When ammo capacity is so limited, one extra cartridge is a significant improvement. "Looks" is low on my selection criteria. View Quote On reflection, I guess there is a reason I want a 5-shooter: the profile of the gun and how well it carries on my body. With revolvers, that 1 extra round in the cylinder is uncomfortable IWB, which is my preferred carry method, especially since it rarely gets cold enough in FL to warrant me wearing a coat. When I do wear a coat, my model 64 loaded with 110 grain JHPs works just fine. My normal carry gun is a Kahr K9. |
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https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/32224/IMG_2472_JPG-770559.JPG This is what you need to look for. You can still find nice one's for sale cheap but you have to look. View Quote |
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A few more model numbers to add to your search. The 442 and 642 are available new, without the lock.
Model 37 - airweight Chiefs Special 637 - “stainless” model 37 (aluminum frame, stainless barrel and cylinder) 442 - blue hammerless airweight 642 - “stainless” hammerless airweight 640 - all steel stainless hammerless, 38 and 357 360 - Scandium frame airweight, 38 and 357 |
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Been carrying this a year. Mentioned this in another post. Taurus makes some decent revolvers. Taurus M85 5RD 38SP +P 2" stainless for $230. Buds is out of stock. Probably find one at a lgs. View Quote |
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Your the first guy that I trust that has not had a crapfit about the bodyguard. My Mom has one and likes it a lot and it has a nice trigger and she shoots it well. I have no clue how durable it is though. A lot of guys poo poo it pretty heavily. From what I can tell.
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I have no experience with the Ruger LCR series and I am intrigued by them and their price. Are they worth the reputation? View Quote I went with the 6 shot version and I'm very happy with it. Attached File |
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Quoted: Yes. I went with the 6 shot version and I'm very happy with it. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/61196/20181112_203433_jpg-772623.JPG View Quote |
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Owned a variety of different revolvers, one style I keep going back to is a J frame.
Just traded for a S&W 640-1 last night with a leather Kramer holster. Carry 38 +P, but like having the ability to shoot 357 in it when I want to |
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Quoted: Yes. I went with the 6 shot version and I'm very happy with it. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/61196/20181112_203433_jpg-772623.JPG Now that I have some actual experience with it, I love it as well. I'm trying to be good, but those short barrel .327 SP101's are very very tempting. |
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Quoted: When I carry the gun, I'll carry either speed strips or speedloaders as well. The sole purpose of my CCW is to get me and mine outta harm's way- not fight a contracted battle. On reflection, I guess there is a reason I want a 5-shooter: the profile of the gun and how well it carries on my body. With revolvers, that 1 extra round in the cylinder is uncomfortable IWB, which is my preferred carry method, especially since it rarely gets cold enough in FL to warrant me wearing a coat. When I do wear a coat, my model 64 loaded with 110 grain JHPs works just fine. My normal carry gun is a Kahr K9. View Quote Oh well. It's your choice. |
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I cant wrap my head around your premise that 1 extra round is uncomfortable. I carried a Model 36 in a IWB holster for years...but switched to the Detective Special and didnt notice a bit of felt difference. Oh well. It's your choice. View Quote |
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Owned a variety of different revolvers, one style I keep going back to is a J frame. Just traded for a S&W 640-1 last night with a leather Kramer holster. Carry 38 +P, but like having the ability to shoot 357 in it when I want to View Quote I want a steel j frame really badly. Just to see if I'd like it more than my 442. I'm sure I would like it more shooting but I wonder if I'd notice the extra weight carrying and if it would be a bummer. My guess is not. So that's my next goal for a gun. 36/60/49/649/640 Something like that. I'm undecided about hammers though. I carry AIWB and a hammer might be a nice thing to have to put your finger on when holstering. But I could see how sometimes it might snag on draw. However, I can see the utility in using single action for a long shot. But then I don't really want to get in a habit of shooting single action. I think the 49/649 would be the best compromise though. |
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Have been carrying a performance center 442 lately in my winter coat pocket.
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The 9mm LCR really intrigues me. My EDC is a G19 and that’s the only pistol I currently own so a pocketable revolver in 9mm would be handy due to simple logistics. One ammo type for everything is nice and ballistics seem very respectable too.
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The 9mm LCR really intrigues me. My EDC is a G19 and that’s the only pistol I currently own so a pocketable revolver in 9mm would be handy due to simple logistics. One ammo type for everything is nice and ballistics seem very respectable too. View Quote "Shooting the 9mm round in such a small revolver was eye-opening. While not as violent as shooting .357 rounds in a small-frame revolver, the 9mm loads were very "snappy." The +P loads gave a little more recoil, but the difference was not great. It only took about 10 rounds to start feeling the sting of the 9mm loads. After one 50-round box and 15 +P loads, the recoil had become downright unpleasant, and I was done. Both the web of my shooting hand and my trigger finger are still very sore today. So, plainly, this isn't much of a fun gun for the range." |
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For carry I like the 640, 442, 642 with the concealed hammer. I also have the Smith and Wesson Bodyguard in 38. I like it a a lot. LGS has them on sale for $279. Much easier to pull from a pocket. In my experience the hammer spur will get caught up when drawing it If you want a steel frame gun Kings Firearms has the 640 in 357. They have them at $379 plus $15 shipping. I got one and it had some marks on it but the action was like new. Carried but not fired much. Here is a picture from their site https://i.imgur.com/uikf2Thl.jpg View Quote Can you post a link. I can not find the 640 on their site . |
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@MBUZICHOMA Can you post a link. I can not find the 640 on their site . View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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For carry I like the 640, 442, 642 with the concealed hammer. I also have the Smith and Wesson Bodyguard in 38. I like it a a lot. LGS has them on sale for $279. Much easier to pull from a pocket. In my experience the hammer spur will get caught up when drawing it If you want a steel frame gun Kings Firearms has the 640 in 357. They have them at $379 plus $15 shipping. I got one and it had some marks on it but the action was like new. Carried but not fired much. Here is a picture from their site https://i.imgur.com/uikf2Thl.jpg Can you post a link. I can not find the 640 on their site . Kings Firearms 640-3 |
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This police surplus 640 was magic for me. In my hands, an airweight 38 is pretty much a belly gun. Too light for me to control with any accuracy. But this 640 adds just enough weight to make it a good shooter for me. Also adds enough weight to make it a holster gun, too heavy for pocket carry. The grips help too. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/33552/AA4EDFC3-18B9-4B32-A939-092476ADCD53-562556.jpg View Quote I know at one time they made a 2.125" barrel on some of those newer stainless models. But it almost looks like 2.5"..... Or 2.25" ? |
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Quoted: Very nice. Out of curiosity, do you know how long that barrel technically is? And do you know the measurement from the back of the cylinder to the end of the barrel how long that is? I know at one time they made a 2.125" barrel on some of those newer stainless models. But it almost looks like 2.5"..... Or 2.25" ? View Quote |
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The Hogue Tamer grips for the Centennial styled J frames work very very well. They don’t work with my Galco shoulder rig or the ankle glove with the strap though. They sell a Tamer for the LCR too I think.
I rented a LCR, and like another post said I found the reset odd. I have a lot of rounds through S&Ws and I’m just used to them. I highly recommend renting a gun before you buy it. The smaller the frame, the lighter the weight, and the larger the caliber, the more important this is. |
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For some reason about 75% of the time I shot my 442 with the tamers, I drew blood from my right thumb from the take down lever. I don't have that problem with boot grips. I guess it's just where my thumb is with those grips. They do help with felt recoil though and make the gun feel good in the hand. However, my hands are not overly big and my pinky pretty much gets on the grip on a booth grip. Plus I feel like I have better trigger control with with a grip that doesn't cover the backstrap. Although I think ideally there would be a grip that adds just a bit of material over the back strap. Just not as much as the tamers.
That's how they fit me. |
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