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Posted: 1/1/2019 5:01:38 PM EDT
https://www.waltherarms.com/handguns/q5-match-steel-frame/#
Also, peeking on distributor websites, there are UPC codes for a M1 Q4 Tac and a M1 Q5 Match 
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Posted: 1/1/2019 6:37:04 PM EDT
[#1]
Those look . . . . . . . Fugly
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Posted: 1/1/2019 8:29:32 PM EDT
[#2]
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Those look . . . . . . . Fugly  apparently it shoots real well
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Posted: 1/2/2019 2:15:34 AM EDT
[#3]
And not threaded....... pass for me
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Posted: 1/2/2019 4:04:48 AM EDT
[#4]
Has a button not a paddle. Pass
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Posted: 1/2/2019 1:59:36 PM EDT
[#5]
Bill Blowers was raving about them.
When it comes to the milling, esthetically speaking it it looks like some of the worst milling I've seen on Glocks. |
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Posted: 1/2/2019 2:19:01 PM EDT
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Bill Blowers was raving about them. |
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Posted: 1/2/2019 4:00:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Link to this? https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2085613094851424&id=100002082623643 |
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Posted: 1/2/2019 4:05:00 PM EDT
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Check his Facebook. https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2085613094851424&id=100002082623643 |
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Posted: 1/2/2019 4:16:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Content not found. Maybe he posted it to his company page too. |
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Posted: 1/2/2019 5:16:16 PM EDT
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Works for me, but I'm FB "friends" with him and I'm logged in. Maybe he posted it to his company page too. |
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Posted: 1/2/2019 6:37:40 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/2/2019 8:18:42 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryCompare it to the Shadow line from CZ and it seems about par. It's also less than the low end STIs and less than a Zev'd out competition Glock. I think the price is competitive for that type of competition gun. Walther also reportedly has a good mil/le discount if you qualify. Curious to see what that works out to be. |
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Posted: 1/2/2019 9:23:51 PM EDT
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Compare it to the Shadow line from CZ and it seems about par. It's also less than the low end STIs and less than a Zev'd out competition Glock. I think the price is competitive for that type of competition gun. Walther also reportedly has a good mil/le discount if you qualify. Curious to see what that works out to be. |
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Posted: 1/3/2019 3:32:00 AM EDT
[#14]
Put a paddle on that SF and sign me up!
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Posted: 1/3/2019 6:44:40 PM EDT
[#15]
It's cute but $1500+ for a striker fired gun is ridiculous, unless it has a MUCH better trigger and better fit/finished parts than a normal Q5 Match, since it's more than 2x the price.
Sorry while I like some striker fired guns, and the Q5 match is pretty darn nice, their triggers simply do not compare to a nice non-striker single action trigger. Let's remember striker fired guns were born out of a desire to cut cost corners. $1600 these are selling for is CZ TSO territory, $400+ more than a CZ Shadow 2, same price as a Tangfolio Witness II Extreme, $150 more gets you an STI Edge If they were in the $1100/$1300 MSRP and 10-15% less street that would be more in line with what they are offering. |
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Posted: 1/3/2019 7:07:46 PM EDT
[#16]
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It's cute but $1500+ for a striker fired gun is ridiculous, unless it has a MUCH better trigger and better fit/finished parts than a normal Q5 Match, since it's more than 2x the price. Sorry while I like some striker fired guns, and the Q5 match is pretty darn nice, their triggers simply do not compare to a nice non-striker single action trigger. Let's remember striker fired guns were born out of a desire to cut cost corners. $1600 these are selling for is CZ TSO territory, $400+ more than a CZ Shadow 2, same price as a Tangfolio Witness II Extreme, $150 more gets you an STI Edge If they were in the $1100/$1300 MSRP and 10-15% less street that would be more in line with what they are offering. Thing is...the TSO is super hard to find and not usable in production. And a lot of people prefer the shadow anyway (so I hear) because they can use it in production and 3 gun if they want to as well. Im just a fan of using the same type/style gun across multiple game types so you can be most proficient. |
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Posted: 1/3/2019 10:11:18 PM EDT
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$1600 these are selling for is CZ TSO territory, $400+ more than a CZ Shadow 2, same price as a Tangfolio Witness II Extreme, $150 more gets you an STI Edge Also worthy of note - Competition shooters certainly won't be the only market interested in a metal-framed striker-fired duty pistol. These will sell. And they'll sell well |
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Posted: 1/3/2019 11:40:07 PM EDT
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I bought one today, I’ve wanted a steel framed striker fired gun for years. The Hudson H9 didn’t do it for me, nor did did the those aluminum and steel frames you could buy for the Glock about 10 years ago. I always thought the PPQ had a great trigger but considered it just another polymer pistol...so for me it’s worth it to try it.
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Posted: 1/4/2019 11:07:37 AM EDT
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I bought one today, I’ve wanted a steel framed striker fired gun for years. The Hudson H9 didn’t do it for me, nor did did the those aluminum and steel frames you could buy for the Glock about 10 years ago. I always thought the PPQ had a great trigger but considered it just another polymer pistol...so for me it’s worth it to try it. Maybe this will get SIG to release steel and aluminum frames for the P320. |
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Posted: 1/4/2019 11:24:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
It's cute but $1500+ for a striker fired gun is ridiculous, unless it has a MUCH better trigger and better fit/finished parts than a normal Q5 Match, since it's more than 2x the price. Sorry while I like some striker fired guns, and the Q5 match is pretty darn nice, their triggers simply do not compare to a nice non-striker single action trigger. Let's remember striker fired guns were born out of a desire to cut cost corners. $1600 these are selling for is CZ TSO territory, $400+ more than a CZ Shadow 2, same price as a Tangfolio Witness II Extreme, $150 more gets you an STI Edge If they were in the $1100/$1300 MSRP and 10-15% less street that would be more in line with what they are offering. I think you are mixing up polymer frames and striker fired actions. |
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Posted: 1/4/2019 4:47:12 PM EDT
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There's always an exception but the P7 and Lugers haven't been representative of striker fired guns for the last what 30 years now?
I'm happy to be in the minority and for the right game I can see it as an advantage to get one trigger pull, and an optics options. That said at the end of the day in my mind, while I've spent way more than this on several guns, I can buy a new Q5 Match for < $700 delivered, a Q5 SF Pro is $1600. That's a $900 price increase, more than double the Q5 Match cost, for a metal grip, +2 base plates, and magwell. I guess for me it doesn't fit into my game nitch so $900 for that, seems like a LOT to ask. Any of these guns will always be less in the long run than ammo costs. I have no doubt they will sell, these days plenty of people are sucked into the marketing and quickly parted from huge amounts of their $ without thinking. It's no different than the $600+ bipods and $3000 tripods for precision rifles these days. On the plus side, it might start a marketing trend of steel framed striker guns and I can see that leading to some nice options and perhaps reduced prices. If the SF Pro came down around the $1200 mark it might be more tempting. |
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Posted: 1/4/2019 11:07:58 PM EDT
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I'd be willing to bet in about a year once the shiny newness wears off you'll be able to find them new for around the $1,200/1,100 mark
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Posted: 1/4/2019 11:08:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
I bought one today, I’ve wanted a steel framed striker fired gun for years. The Hudson H9 didn’t do it for me, nor did did the those aluminum and steel frames you could buy for the Glock about 10 years ago. I always thought the PPQ had a great trigger but considered it just another polymer pistol...so for me it’s worth it to try it. |
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Posted: 1/5/2019 2:16:11 PM EDT
[#24]
I’d just ordered a tuned Tanfoglio stock 3. Had I known about this gun, I would have went this route instead.
I wonder what the weight of the SF is with an empty mag? Could also be good for both USPSA & IDPA. I’ve wanted a heavy, striker fired steel framed pistol for years. Kuddos to Walther for finally coming through. I don’t understand the belly-aching over the price of this pistol. It’s in line with high end SA/DA steel frame pistols. At a quoted 42oz, this won’t be a CCW mass market pistol. 
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Posted: 1/5/2019 3:13:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
I’d just ordered a tuned Tanfoglio stock 3. Had I known about this gun, I would have went this route instead. I wonder what the weight of the SF is with an empty mag? Could also be good for both USPSA & IDPA. I’ve wanted a heavy, striker fired steel framed pistol for years. Kuddos to Walther for finally coming through. I don’t understand the belly-aching over the price of this pistol. It’s in line with high end SA/DA steel frame pistols. At a quoted 42oz, this won’t be a CCW mass market pistol. Its funny, on the Blowers post people are complaining how difficult it would be to carry on a CCW or duty belt and saying it's stupid to make a gun that big or heavy. ETA: Weights are listed on the walther page with empty mag. SF: 41.6 SF PRO: 42.3 https://www.waltherarms.com/handguns/q5-match-steel-frame/ |
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Posted: 1/5/2019 6:08:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: ETA: Weights are listed on the walther page with empty mag. SF: 41.6 SF PRO: 42.3 https://www.waltherarms.com/handguns/q5-match-steel-frame/ No biggy, I'd carry it. 
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Posted: 1/5/2019 6:37:29 PM EDT
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I've been assured by Glock 19X haters every pistol MUST be the ideal concealed carry gun and any design considerations that deviate from that goal are pointless. Its funny, on the Blowers post people are complaining how difficult it would be to carry on a CCW or duty belt and saying it's stupid to make a gun that big or heavy. ETA: Weights are listed on the walther page with empty mag. SF: 41.6 SF PRO: 42.3 https://www.waltherarms.com/handguns/q5-match-steel-frame/ The SF is IDPA legal...and can be USPSA legal if they get the approvals...that’s big! This is same weight as the CZ accushadow. This gun is going to do well! |
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Posted: 1/5/2019 8:30:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
I've been assured by Glock 19X haters every pistol MUST be the ideal concealed carry gun and any design considerations that deviate from that goal are pointless. Its funny, on the Blowers post people are complaining how difficult it would be to carry on a CCW or duty belt and saying it's stupid to make a gun that big or heavy. |
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Posted: 1/6/2019 3:47:01 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Dude, The SF is IDPA legal...and can be USPSA legal if they get the approvals...that’s big! This is same weight as the CZ accushadow. This gun is going to do well! 
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Posted: 1/7/2019 3:25:46 PM EDT
[#30]
***clapping noises****
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Posted: 1/28/2019 2:22:18 PM EDT
[#31]
I’m on my phone, forgive me.
What’s the difference in the steel frames? Pro vs not pro (both steel framed)? |
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Posted: 1/28/2019 3:56:29 PM EDT
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I’m on my phone, forgive me. What’s the difference in the steel frames? Pro vs not pro (both steel framed)? |
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Posted: 1/28/2019 9:55:31 PM EDT
[#33]
Thanks.
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Posted: 9/21/2019 7:59:22 AM EDT
[#34]
Bought one of these last week. I've only been able to put about 50 rounds through it. Today I'll run 100 or so and get the RDS sighted in.
Initial impressions: Ergonomically, it's the best pistol I've ever held. Walther really did their homework on the grip. This is in fact why I bought the pistol in the first place. Because of the above, the pistol is easy to shoot and shoot well. Very flat shooting, quick recovery. Accuracy is what you'd expect out of a pistol designed for competition. No formal testing done yet, but at 20 yds it was easy to group rounds on a 3" tree stump knot. As a huge 1911 fan, the trigger is ok. I'd like to reduce trigger take-up by 30%. Not much creep. Overtravel is ok. I'll put an Apex in it whenever they decide to make one for the SF. The machining on these pistols is top-notch. Everything locks up tight. No machine marks anywhere. |
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Posted: 9/21/2019 11:02:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Bought one of these last week. I've only been able to put about 50 rounds through it. Today I'll run 100 or so and get the RDS sighted in. Initial impressions: Ergonomically, it's the best pistol I've ever held. Walther really did their homework on the grip. This is in fact why I bought the pistol in the first place. Because of the above, the pistol is easy to shoot and shoot well. Very flat shooting, quick recovery. Accuracy is what you'd expect out of a pistol designed for competition. No formal testing done yet, but at 20 yds it was easy to group rounds on a 3" tree stump knot. As a huge 1911 fan, the trigger is ok. I'd like to reduce trigger take-up by 30%. Not much creep. Overtravel is ok. I'll put an Apex in it whenever they decide to make one for the SF. The machining on these pistols is top-notch. Everything locks up tight. No machine marks anywhere. Will the Apex PPQ trigger work? |
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Posted: 9/21/2019 2:11:47 PM EDT
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Overwatch Precision makes a trigger for it. Will the Apex PPQ trigger work? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Bought one of these last week. I've only been able to put about 50 rounds through it. Today I'll run 100 or so and get the RDS sighted in. Initial impressions: Ergonomically, it's the best pistol I've ever held. Walther really did their homework on the grip. This is in fact why I bought the pistol in the first place. Because of the above, the pistol is easy to shoot and shoot well. Very flat shooting, quick recovery. Accuracy is what you'd expect out of a pistol designed for competition. No formal testing done yet, but at 20 yds it was easy to group rounds on a 3" tree stump knot. As a huge 1911 fan, the trigger is ok. I'd like to reduce trigger take-up by 30%. Not much creep. Overtravel is ok. I'll put an Apex in it whenever they decide to make one for the SF. The machining on these pistols is top-notch. Everything locks up tight. No machine marks anywhere. Will the Apex PPQ trigger work? I'll check overwatch. I appreciate the information, finding aftermarket anything has been a chore for this pistol. |
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Posted: 9/21/2019 2:20:29 PM EDT
[#37]
Overwatch Precision does not make a trigger for the Walther q5 sf pro.
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Posted: 9/21/2019 6:18:41 PM EDT
[#38]
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Overwatch Precision does not make a trigger for the Walther q5 sf pro. https://www.instagram.com/p/B2UW7zbA8zi/?igshid=qqal56h2hqzo ETA: according to the OP IG "coming soon" |
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Posted: 9/22/2019 6:59:15 AM EDT
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Bill Blowers has one in his gun https://www.instagram.com/p/B2UW7zbA8zi/?igshid=qqal56h2hqzo ETA: according to the OP IG "coming soon" Lack of time yesterday got in the way of me running 100-200 rounds through the pistol. I did get the RDS sighted in and continue to be pleased with how flat shooting this pistol is. Easy to put 17 rounds on a 6" steel plate at 20 yards as fast as you can pull the trigger. |
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Posted: 9/29/2019 9:28:55 PM EDT
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I liked the looks and was all ready to order but wanted to hold one first. Glad I did. The grip was too small for me to be comfortable. Also the beaver tail had sharp edges that were definitely distracting. I passed and went on the buy a CZ Accushadow 2. Glad I did.
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Posted: 9/29/2019 9:51:10 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
I liked the looks and was all ready to order but wanted to hold one first. Glad I did. The grip was too small for me to be comfortable. Also the beaver tail had sharp edges that were definitely distracting. I passed and went on the buy a CZ Accushadow 2. Glad I did. |
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Posted: 9/30/2019 5:13:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Agreed not to mention the price point. Ouch. One reviewer mentioned sharp edges on the beavertail that became a problem for him after 700 rounds. I haven't noted any sharp edges and it hasn't given me any issues. I believe Walther has said they will be releasing a complete SF lineup. I'd expect them to offer other 5" models with a lower price point. |
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Posted: 9/30/2019 9:25:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The grip length will be an issue for people with mitts for hands. 2 Youtube reviewers had mentioned that the magwell cramps their strong hand. I don't know if removing the magwell from the Pro model would help. One reviewer mentioned sharp edges on the beavertail that became a problem for him after 700 rounds. I haven't noted any sharp edges and it hasn't given me any issues. I believe Walther has said they will be releasing a complete SF lineup. I'd expect them to offer other 5" models with a lower price point. |
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