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Posted: 10/26/2018 6:47:40 PM EDT
This shouldn’t happen, especially at matches.

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Link Posted: 10/26/2018 7:13:57 PM EDT
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I have found exactly two of those in over 30 years.  With all the ammo I have gone through, I think that is pretty amazing (positive) quality control.
Link Posted: 10/26/2018 7:27:48 PM EDT
[#2]
I have found a couple of those, but they came out of my press.
Link Posted: 10/26/2018 8:31:31 PM EDT
[#3]
I've had a couple of Winchesters like that.
Link Posted: 10/28/2018 9:59:18 PM EDT
[#4]
I found one in a box of Sig Elite Performance .38spl 125gr fmj today.  I think that's the second inverted primer I've found in factory ammo in over thirty years of buying ammo.
Link Posted: 10/29/2018 8:41:01 AM EDT
[#5]
I had one like that in a box of Federal Tactical LE ammo. Pretty sad that LE ammo made it out the door that way.
Link Posted: 10/29/2018 9:08:22 AM EDT
[#6]
Seen that a few times over the years.  As I recall mostly in Winchester.

Also had Winchester with no priming compound.  Click!  Pulled the round apart and popped the primer out.  Nothing in it.

Had a Remington yellow box .45 acp with very little or no powder.  Bullet stuck in bore.
Link Posted: 10/29/2018 9:17:54 AM EDT
[#7]
It happens. It's basically a useful training round now...
Link Posted: 10/29/2018 12:03:44 PM EDT
[#8]
I shoot a lot and have never seen that....guess I'm lucky.
Link Posted: 10/29/2018 12:09:50 PM EDT
[#9]
Anyone who doesn’t check their match ammo before hand is a fool. Seen that plenty of times over the years with almost every manufacturer.

I was always amazed to see people show up at a match with ammo they haven’t even looked at let alone ran through a case gauge or their barrel. Even at nationals.
Link Posted: 10/29/2018 12:24:27 PM EDT
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Anyone who doesn’t check their match ammo before hand is a fool. Seen that plenty of times over the years with almost every manufacturer.

I was always amazed to see people show up at a match with ammo they haven’t even looked at let alone ran through a case gauge or their barrel. Even at nationals.
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I see this all time at USPSA.
Link Posted: 10/29/2018 4:07:20 PM EDT
[#11]
I actually found a .357 Mag that did not fire.

When I took the round apart there was no priming compound in the primer.
Link Posted: 10/29/2018 4:28:37 PM EDT
[#12]
I've always been under the impress the public gets the Fed 2nds so it doesn't surprise me.  Lake city def gives us seconds
Link Posted: 10/29/2018 4:30:29 PM EDT
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If you don't inspect and gauge your ammo for matches, you have already failed.

If you have been shooting for enough years, you have seen all the things.

More than once, a crimped and sealed milspec primer has popped, lodged above the gas tube, effectively turning an M16 into a club.
Link Posted: 11/8/2018 5:30:53 PM EDT
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If you don't inspect and gauge your ammo for matches, you have already failed.

If you have been shooting for enough years, you have seen all the things.

More than once, a crimped and sealed milspec primer has popped, lodged above the gas tube, effectively turning an M16 into a club.
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Had just this at a 3 gun match with Atlanta Arms .223.
Link Posted: 11/10/2018 10:07:26 AM EDT
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Had just this at a 3 gun match with Atlanta Arms .223.
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Atlanta Arms was ALL that we used to shoot in 9, .45acp, and .223 and we had a lot of good times at the farm shooting thousands of rounds at steel, etc. Then something happened and we started having all kind of problems. I haven't bought any in 20 years.

The worst offender for me is Remington Green Box and UMC. More than once has the case been just long enough to chamber fully, NOT fire, and take a dead blow hammer and a sturdy wood bench to get the cartridge out. The only Remington I use now is Golden Sabres as I haven't had a problem with them in almost 25 years of shooting them. YMMV...
Link Posted: 11/23/2018 2:47:18 PM EDT
[#16]
I only had that happen once. It was from a lot of remanufactured 9mm. All the other rounds were fine and shot well.
Link Posted: 11/23/2018 4:28:42 PM EDT
[#17]
All of you would be surprised with all the problems I have seen in my many years of shooting, and while being a poor boy I haven't been able to shoot a whole bunch of factory ammo.  If you want good ammo you should load your own ammo and inspect the stuff you load and double inspect the stuff you buy.
Link Posted: 11/23/2018 4:44:03 PM EDT
[#18]
Had one in the eighties in some Norinco 45 acp.
Link Posted: 11/24/2018 10:01:39 AM EDT
[#19]
Last one remembered was a .45clot Winchester.
I send them off a scathing email about how does a damned near $40 box of ammo have such an issue and they offered to send me a new box.
But then I said f it and shot the remainder of the ammo.
I mostly don't like winchester anything but the 9mm nato and some shotshells which admittedly I am behind the times on.
Link Posted: 11/24/2018 11:05:20 AM EDT
[#20]
Winchester brand I think I have five or six now.

Hxp Greek m2 ball with no primer kernel.
Link Posted: 11/30/2018 9:50:33 AM EDT
[#21]
I have had a Winchester hollow point with no hollow point. If you shoot a lot over time you will eventually find a mistake in ammo.
Link Posted: 12/3/2018 8:36:22 AM EDT
[#22]
Happens when you're mass producing million rounds a day.  First time I had that happen was a M200 5.56mm blank while in basic.  Once had a box of Win .45 Colt STHP with a .44 SPL STHP in it?  Someone might have changed that in the store however.  I reload and have numerous times have had primers flip on me.  Caught it right after I prime the round on my single stage press during my inspecting to ensure primer is full seated.

CD
Link Posted: 12/9/2018 7:32:43 PM EDT
[#23]
I've been shooting since the early 1970s and have found one inverted primer and one inverted Silvertip HP.
Link Posted: 12/9/2018 8:02:31 PM EDT
[#24]
I bought a box if Remington green box 30-30 a couple years ago. Being a reloader I checked it before I put it in the gun. Sure enough there was an upside down primer. I called Remington and they offered to send me a new box if I sent them the old box until they realized I was in NY. They sent me a $10 check. I borrowed a buddies set of dies, pulled the bullet and powder and reloaded it.
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 11:40:43 AM EDT
[#25]
Although it is rare, you're right this shouldn't happen. Your best bet is probably to inspect each round before loading up for a competition, that way this type of thing wont hurt you in a match.
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