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Posted: 4/20/2022 9:45:49 PM EDT
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In my experience OWB is less stable and harder to conceal and high ride is a slower draw.
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Posted: 4/20/2022 11:08:42 PM EDT
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9 O'clock is for a left-handed person. Gun should be strong side. Cross draw telegraphs your intentions when you draw which is not desirable if you are drawing against an already drawn hostile gun. Milt Sparks 55BN OWB If you are wearing a jacket, hoodie, suit etc over it this is a great holster and it rides close and very comfortable. I tend to use Milt Sparks NEXUS with the magnetic snaps and being IWB it lays even closer and conceals better all year around. It takes about 6 months to order one.
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Posted: 4/20/2022 11:51:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In my experience OWB is less stable and harder to conceal and high ride is a slower draw. What’s your carry rig setup? |
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Posted: 4/21/2022 12:12:08 AM EDT
[#4]
I like it.
 
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Posted: 4/21/2022 12:38:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 9 O'clock is for a left-handed person. Gun should be strong side. Cross draw telegraphs your intentions when you draw which is not desirable if you are drawing against an already drawn hostile gun. Milt Sparks 55BN OWB If you are wearing a jacket, hoodie, suit etc over it this is a great holster and it rides close and very comfortable. I tend to use Milt Sparks NEXUS with the magnetic snaps and being IWB it lays even closer and conceals better all year around. It takes about 6 months to order one. Yeah im a lefty. Hense 9 o clock. I tend to wear collared heavy over shirts or flannels in the winter when im inside. So thats why im thinking owb. If i do a mock up just tucking the commander into my belt it disappears pretty well standing or sitting with a 45 degree canted. But if i lean and reach right i only got 2 inches concealment below the belt so it would have to ride pretty high. I did iwb for a while with a smaller gun. Honestly i couldn't get used to it. Tried a bunch of different positions. I move around alot during the day to include getting up and sitting down. Found iwb Massively uncomfortable for me. Just isnt for me. Found myself grabbing an even smaller gun for pocket carry to avoid the hassle. Which isnt the right answer. Hense why i am looking for owb options. |
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Posted: 4/21/2022 12:38:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryNice. How low does it sit below your belt. |
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Posted: 4/21/2022 3:42:03 AM EDT
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I OWB; never liked IWB.
AZ is open carry so I'm not overly concerned about 100% concealment in every situation. |
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Posted: 4/21/2022 9:45:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What’s your carry rig setup? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: In my experience OWB is less stable and harder to conceal and high ride is a slower draw. What’s your carry rig setup? Various kydex IWB holsters at 4 o’clock with a Wilderness 5 stitch belt or a MagPul or Kore with suits/dress clothes. |
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Posted: 4/21/2022 10:18:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Various kydex IWB holsters at 4 o’clock with a Wilderness 5 stitch belt or a MagPul or Kore with suits/dress clothes. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: In my experience OWB is less stable and harder to conceal and high ride is a slower draw. What’s your carry rig setup? Various kydex IWB holsters at 4 o’clock with a Wilderness 5 stitch belt or a MagPul or Kore with suits/dress clothes. Thank you! Took these two out shooting yesterday. Going to start carrying the RMR a lot more.  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/21/2022 12:01:57 PM EDT
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That's how I carry everything. Key is a good belt. Holster is secondary.
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Posted: 4/21/2022 1:53:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thank you! Took these two out shooting yesterday. Going to start carrying the RMR a lot more. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/155148/50C77137-9257-44AD-A241-848E4F2D5974_jpe-2356590.JPG Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: In my experience OWB is less stable and harder to conceal and high ride is a slower draw. What’s your carry rig setup? Various kydex IWB holsters at 4 o’clock with a Wilderness 5 stitch belt or a MagPul or Kore with suits/dress clothes. Thank you! Took these two out shooting yesterday. Going to start carrying the RMR a lot more. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/155148/50C77137-9257-44AD-A241-848E4F2D5974_jpe-2356590.JPG My daily carry.  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/21/2022 2:58:24 PM EDT
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Owb works just fine. Not as concealable enough for me but nice on my days off.
 Attached FileThat is a Ryan Grizzle made with horsehide. Kramer and Milt Sparks makes them do. |
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Posted: 4/21/2022 7:00:39 PM EDT
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This might help, though neither gun is a 1911.
 Glock 17 in a Raven Perun. This rides very tightly to the body. I have not carried this very much.  Attached FileGlock 48 in a Bravo Concealment with their paddles. This is very comfortable and seems to be completely covered by most of my shirts even though I'm tall.  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/21/2022 9:08:33 PM EDT
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I still don't understand the 'more concealed' - concealed means obscured from view. So it's either in view or not in view.
I rarely carry any other way than OWB, and aside from an occasional gust of wind, it's concealed. Strong side or cross-draw, it's significantly more comfortable than IWB.  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/21/2022 9:18:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I still don't understand the 'more concealed' - concealed means obscured from view. So it's either in view or not in view. I rarely carry any other way than OWB, and aside from an occasional gust of wind, it's concealed. Strong side or cross-draw, it's significantly more comfortable than IWB. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/171243/CrossDrawSM_jpg-2357309.JPG Not everyone lives in the Pacific Northwest and can comfortably wear a vest 12 months a year.
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Posted: 4/21/2022 10:09:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not everyone lives in the Pacific Northwest and can comfortably wear a vest 12 months a year. An untucked unbuttoned light shirt works just as well. |
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Posted: 4/21/2022 10:14:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I still don't understand the 'more concealed' - concealed means obscured from view. So it's either in view or not in view. I rarely carry any other way than OWB, and aside from an occasional gust of wind, it's concealed. Strong side or cross-draw, it's significantly more comfortable than IWB. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/171243/CrossDrawSM_jpg-2357309.JPG Getting fired would suck and losing the only income for a family of 4 would too. More concealable means no printing. Period. |
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Posted: 4/21/2022 10:17:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I still don't understand the 'more concealed' - concealed means obscured from view. So it's either in view or not in view. I rarely carry any other way than OWB, and aside from an occasional gust of wind, it's concealed. Strong side or cross-draw, it's significantly more comfortable than IWB. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/171243/CrossDrawSM_jpg-2357309.JPG That set up i could prolly pull of in the winter. Hows the stability of the rig with it sitting that high. |
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Posted: 4/21/2022 10:18:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This might help, though neither gun is a 1911. Glock 17 in a Raven Perun. This rides very tightly to the body. I have not carried this very much. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/516916/IMG_20220421_175329700_jpg-2357131.JPG Glock 48 in a Bravo Concealment with their paddles. This is very comfortable and seems to be completely covered by most of my shirts even though I'm tall. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/516916/IMG_20220421_175216031_jpg-2357134.JPG |
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Posted: 4/21/2022 11:04:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That set up i could prolly pull of in the winter. Hows the stability of the rig with it sitting that high. With a good belt it's perfectly stable. |
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Posted: 4/22/2022 12:00:19 AM EDT
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My High Noon slide guard for my Sig tacops 10mm rides fairly high and is completely stable. Would have to measure to see if it’s 2 inches or more below the belt, might be.
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Posted: 4/22/2022 8:03:47 AM EDT
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My daily carry even in the summer. I carry OWB almost exclusively. The only time I carry IWB is when I'm traveling to and from work. The holster, and belt you choose makes all the difference. This is a Milt Sparks holster and belt. I have others made by TT Gunleather. Craftsmanship on both are fantastic.
 Attached FileTT Gunleather snap removable pancake  Attached FileTT Gunleather pancake  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/22/2022 6:53:32 PM EDT
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Take a look at the Mernickle Extreme Hi XHR.
As many have said, the belt is an essential part of keeping a hi/tight holster close. Galco is low to medium quality, low durability leather for the masses, and very overpriced. I have no connection but have worn a hi/tight Mernickle every day all day for about 4 (or 5?) years now and it's as good as the day I got it. Sparks sets a high standard and Grizzle is outstanding as well. Andrews leather is top notch. Worst case scenario... buy a "bang for the buck" Mernickle while you wait 6 months to a year + for a Sparks or Andrews. Make sure you have the shoulder mobility to unholster a very hi placed gun without contortion  45 degree seems like an awful lot to me but it WILL raise the bottom of the holster. Wrist angle be damned. Lots of lightly used, high quality holsters on the ebay, if you want to do a test run of that style. |
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Posted: 4/22/2022 8:48:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: With a good belt it's perfectly stable. |
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Posted: 4/22/2022 8:55:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My daily carry even in the summer. I carry OWB almost exclusively. The only time I carry IWB is when I'm traveling to and from work. The holster, and belt you choose makes all the difference. This is a Milt Sparks holster and belt. I have others made by TT Gunleather. Craftsmanship on both are fantastic. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/255192/IMG_3997_JPG-2357619.JPG TT Gunleather snap removable pancakehttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/255192/IMG_3782_JPG-2357625.JPG TT Gunleather pancakehttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/255192/IMG_3733_copy_JPG-2357627.JPG Still, pretty nice. |
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Posted: 4/22/2022 8:58:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Take a look at the Mernickle Extreme Hi XHR. As many have said, the belt is an essential part of keeping a hi/tight holster close. Galco is low to medium quality, low durability leather for the masses, and very overpriced. I have no connection but have worn a hi/tight Mernickle every day all day for about 4 (or 5?) years now and it's as good as the day I got it. Sparks sets a high standard and Grizzle is outstanding as well. Andrews leather is top notch. Worst case scenario... buy a "bang for the buck" Mernickle while you wait 6 months to a year + for a Sparks or Andrews. Make sure you have the shoulder mobility to unholster a very hi placed gun without contortion 45 degree seems like an awful lot to me but it WILL raise the bottom of the holster. Wrist angle be damned. Lots of lightly used, high quality holsters on the ebay, if you want to do a test run of that style. Side note. I have 2 bianchi belts. They seem pretty solid. but if they end up not cutting it ill get something else. |
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Posted: 4/22/2022 9:14:18 PM EDT
[#27]
It took a while to find the gun…..with the pistol straight up
 Forward cant 
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Posted: 4/22/2022 9:19:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It took a while to find the gun..with the pistol straight up https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/126943/63BAAE00-3924-4B5E-A361-7D5C8ABF18FD-2358458.jpg Forward cant https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/126943/47E61DD6-4C3F-4D2A-A426-B0380717D836-2358460.jpg And whats the make and model? |
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Posted: 4/22/2022 9:48:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanx And whats the make and model? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It took a while to find the gun..with the pistol straight up https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/126943/63BAAE00-3924-4B5E-A361-7D5C8ABF18FD-2358458.jpg Forward cant https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/126943/47E61DD6-4C3F-4D2A-A426-B0380717D836-2358460.jpg And whats the make and model? I already found a spot on the bottom/back of a safe, not digging around right now. I blew up the first picture and it looks like CCG Holsters? 
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Posted: 4/22/2022 11:20:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I already found a spot on the bottom/back of a safe, not digging around right now. I blew up the first picture and it looks like CCG Holsters? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/126943/F3B10E8D-8DC3-47FE-9AB8-B8440B15F16D-2358508.png |
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