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Posted: 12/24/2019 10:26:58 AM EDT
If you could have only one 1911 the Springfield TRP or the Colt M45a1 Marine which would you choose? Is one Better? Why?
Link Posted: 12/24/2019 10:41:03 AM EDT
[#1]
TRP and not look back
Link Posted: 12/24/2019 2:12:09 PM EDT
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Both are great guns. Not a big fan of the tan color and smooth front strap of the Colt, or the bull barrel/adjustable sights of the TRP. If color doesn’t matter look at the Springfield MC Operator. It’s got standard barrel/bushing and novak sight cuts. I think Colt has a CCU that’s black with checkering.

Years ago now i picked an older style MC Operator over a colt rail gun.

Springfield custom made it my own.

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Link Posted: 12/24/2019 4:58:30 PM EDT
[#3]
You can't go wrong either way.
FWIW the Colt has a firing pin safety, some people don't like it, but I don't see it as an issue.
Link Posted: 12/24/2019 5:19:42 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/24/2019 10:53:11 PM EDT
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I have a decom M45A1 and no experience with a TRP but I do like the Colt, a lot. That said, I would not kick either one of them out of the bed.
Link Posted: 12/24/2019 11:23:56 PM EDT
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Both are great guns. Not a big fan of the tan color and smooth front strap of the Colt, or the bull barrel/adjustable sights of the TRP. If color doesn’t matter look at the Springfield MC Operator. It’s got standard barrel/bushing and novak sight cuts. I think Colt has a CCU that’s black with checkering.

Years ago now i picked an older style MC Operator over a colt rail gun.

Springfield custom made it my own.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/113283/FD40A1E2-64CB-4927-AD33-D700AB096CF2_jpeg-1207339.JPG
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The non-railed TRP comes with standard barrel w/ bushing and fixed rear sight.
Link Posted: 12/24/2019 11:46:18 PM EDT
[#7]
I’ve got two TRPs with parts from 10-8 Performance

Love em....

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Link Posted: 12/25/2019 2:25:39 PM EDT
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They’re both fine I’m sure, I dislike the bull barrel of the trp though. I like Colts so I’d get the m45, and a case of 45
Link Posted: 12/25/2019 6:36:52 PM EDT
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If you could have only one 1911 the Springfield TRP or the Colt M45a1 Marine which would you choose? Is one Better? Why?
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I have the colt combat unit rail gun, it’s basically the same as the m45 it’s a phenomenal pistol. I’m a fan of colt but i don’t think you can go wrong with either one.
Link Posted: 12/25/2019 7:30:35 PM EDT
[#10]
MC Operator is what you seek
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Link Posted: 12/25/2019 7:46:05 PM EDT
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Colt hasn't made a decent 1911 since like 1974.

series 80s are for quitters
Link Posted: 12/25/2019 7:54:50 PM EDT
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Colt hasn't made a decent 1911 since like 1974.

series 80s are for quitters
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Except you're completely ass backwards. They're making the nicest 1911s they've ever made.
Link Posted: 12/26/2019 12:19:10 AM EDT
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They’re both fine I’m sure, I dislike the bull barrel of the trp though. I like Colts so I’d get the m45, and a case of 45
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Non-railed TRP has a standard barrel w/ bushing.
Link Posted: 12/26/2019 12:30:19 AM EDT
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For the money, DW specialist is better gun. I like my Springfield 1911’s, but my DW’s are better
Link Posted: 12/26/2019 12:42:59 AM EDT
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Would be the TRP for me, I have a standard TRP and a Operator, both great guns, probably more accurate than me, no experience with that particular Colt.
Link Posted: 12/26/2019 9:02:15 AM EDT
[#16]
TRP will give you more options to choose from (rails, colors, calibers). If you like the M45A1, go for it. You're the one who has to own, shoot and maintain it.

I personally went TRP, but I wanted the full rail, bull-barrel version.

If you do go TRP, ditch the ILS system.
Link Posted: 12/26/2019 9:32:05 AM EDT
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Except you're completely ass backwards. They're making the nicest 1911s they've ever made.
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@45FMJoe I still don't think that's saying much. I haven't found one that was well fit or finished. Additionally, when I shot with the Colt 3 gun competition team they weren't even using colts. That says a lot to me.

Colt is money for the name. much like Kimber these days.
Link Posted: 12/26/2019 9:35:32 AM EDT
[#18]
Ive been really impressed with the recent colts but still only have springfields currently.

Starting all over a CCU would be mighty tempting. Nearly all the features i want.
Link Posted: 12/30/2019 2:34:09 PM EDT
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I think the TRP is a much finer handgun, however I'd rather have a Colt CCU (I don't like the FDE on the M45A1). The railed TRP features turn me away from it (sight cut, bull barrel, tactical engraving all over it). The Colt CCU is setup exactly how I'd want it. The M45A1 doesn't have checking on the front strap, which I'd rather have the checkering. I wouldn't want a Colt w/ the Cerakote finish. The Ion Bond is a better finish for any close tolerance machining.

Buy the gun with the features you prefer.

If you consider the used market, you're not far away from a Dan Wesson Specialist. If you don't need a rail, you're close to Les Baer used prices too. I regret not buying a 1911 w/ a rail for a weapon light.
Link Posted: 12/30/2019 5:31:37 PM EDT
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Guess that means the 9mm competition model I've been looking at would be a solid purchase.
Link Posted: 12/30/2019 6:28:41 PM EDT
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The CCU is a better comparison since it has more similar features with the TRP. I prefer the CCU for the following reasons, but most of them apply to the M45A1 as well.

The Ionbond finish is nicer than the coating SA use on the TRP.
The CCU has finer front strap checkering (25 LPI)
I prefer the non-adjustable sights on the CCU, front NS with all black rear.
The CCU uses a regular bushing and standard 1911 take down.
I prefer a single side safety.
The CCU uses the beefier rail from the M45A1 (The USMC discovered frames cracking on the standard rail).
Purely aesthetically, I much prefer Colt's roll marks over the TRP's "Tactical" and "Operator"

You really can’t go wrong with either pistol, but I prefer the Colt.

Link Posted: 12/30/2019 7:04:29 PM EDT
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I've owned both, and both are swell guns. I upgraded them. I upgraded my TRP to a Nighthawk Custom and the M45A1 got upgraded to DW Discretion. I needed a threaded barrel 1911 and didn't want a Kimber. No complaints on the TRP or the Colt. Although, I will confess my interest has been coming back around to the Colt M45A1 again.
Link Posted: 1/1/2020 4:48:14 PM EDT
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What would it cost to strip and recoat a MC operator frame for black on black?
Link Posted: 1/2/2020 7:29:20 PM EDT
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I think Springfield charges 250 for complete pistol refinish in BlackT
Link Posted: 1/2/2020 7:32:13 PM EDT
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If you plan on resale value: Colt.
If you want a well fit well functioning 1911: Springfield

Personally I’d pony a little bit more money up for a DW Valor or used Les Baer.
Link Posted: 1/2/2020 11:42:12 PM EDT
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One of my dream gunz!

I voted for the TRP

But I’m a fan of Colt 1911’s
Link Posted: 1/2/2020 11:44:37 PM EDT
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The CCU is a better comparison since it has more similar features with the TRP. I prefer the CCU for the following reasons, but most of them apply to the M45A1 as well.

The Ionbond finish is nicer than the coating SA use on the TRP.
The CCU has finer front strap checkering (25 LPI)
I prefer the non-adjustable sights on the CCU, front NS with all black rear.
The CCU uses a regular bushing and standard 1911 take down.
I prefer a single side safety.
The CCU uses the beefier rail from the M45A1 (The USMC discovered frames cracking on the standard rail).
Purely aesthetically, I much prefer Colt's roll marks over the TRP's "Tactical" and "Operator"

You really can’t go wrong with either pistol, but I prefer the Colt.

https://i.imgur.com/zkFzz2F.jpg
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This thread is challenging my loyalties!
Link Posted: 1/3/2020 4:18:40 AM EDT
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I've got one of these :

and I like it very much .
Link Posted: 1/4/2020 5:12:20 PM EDT
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The CCU is a better comparison since it has more similar features with the TRP. I prefer the CCU for the following reasons, but most of them apply to the M45A1 as well.

The Ionbond finish is nicer than the coating SA use on the TRP.
The CCU has finer front strap checkering (25 LPI)
I prefer the non-adjustable sights on the CCU, front NS with all black rear.
The CCU uses a regular bushing and standard 1911 take down.
I prefer a single side safety.
The CCU uses the beefier rail from the M45A1 (The USMC discovered frames cracking on the standard rail).
Purely aesthetically, I much prefer Colt's roll marks over the TRP's "Tactical" and "Operator"

You really can’t go wrong with either pistol, but I prefer the Colt.

https://i.imgur.com/zkFzz2F.jpg

I almost got a non railed ccu

I refuse to get sa for reasons

I just didn't want ambi

so got a competition model


This thread is challenging my loyalties!
Link Posted: 1/4/2020 9:59:56 PM EDT
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Just get a Long Beach Operator if you don’t like the green. Same gun with different grips.
Link Posted: 1/6/2020 3:44:22 PM EDT
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For the money, DW specialist is better gun. I like my Springfield 1911’s, but my DW’s are better
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LOL!! Of course.
Link Posted: 2/9/2020 12:18:20 AM EDT
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Has anyone polished a stainless TRP here?? Pics
Link Posted: 2/9/2020 12:49:50 AM EDT
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Colt doesn't do much for me, they're fine guns but you're paying more for the name+lineage than anything else (which is totally fine, just to be clear).

I vote SA...or save a bit more and get a DW or Baer
Link Posted: 2/9/2020 8:05:37 AM EDT
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I am a recent  convert to Springfield, I have bought 2 of thier 1911's in the past 6 months, a Champion Operator LW and a Range Officer Elite in 10mm.

The 10mm was first, and went back immediately for FTF issues. That aggravated the hell out of me, but when I got it back, wow. I have about 750 rounds through, on the flat range and IDPA, and a love it.

The Champion Operator was flawless out of the box, except it likes steel follower magazines better than polymer. Maybe 400 rounds through this one.

Both of these pistols are much nicer than my Colts.
Link Posted: 2/9/2020 8:28:16 AM EDT
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Why not spend the extra and go with the best.
Springfield Custom Shop railed pro.

https://www.budsgunshop.com/product_info.php/products_id/716006260/springfield+armory+1911-a1+light+rail+pro+pc9111lr
Link Posted: 2/9/2020 10:35:41 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/9/2020 12:15:02 PM EDT
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Colt hasn't made a decent 1911 since like 1974.

series 80s are for quitters
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Colt hasn't made a decent 1911 since like 1974.

series 80s are for quitters
The level of ignorance some people here display is truly amazing. Its just like being in a LGS

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The CCU is a better comparison since it has more similar features with the TRP. I prefer the CCU for the following reasons, but most of them apply to the M45A1 as well.
I agree with M4A1Carbine, if the choice remains between the TRP or M45, I'd get the TRP because it has more/better features (mostly the front strap checkering which is a must have for me) but between the TRP or CCU, I'd "probably" go CCU for the reasons M4A1Carbine listed.

And I only say "probably" because the TRP and CCU are pretty close so if I came across a smoking deal on a TRP or just couldn't find the CCU, I'd be happy enough with the TRP.

That said, as Jupiter7 pointed out, take a look at the DW Specialist as another good option that's typically a little better built then either the SA or Colt. Only 2 downsides with the DW, I prefer Colt's undercut of the trigger guard better and DW's tend to be hard to find locally and when it comes to 1911's I prefer to buy them locally so I can check them out before buying.
Link Posted: 2/9/2020 9:04:51 PM EDT
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No right answer here. I don’t have either, but I have shot both. I do have an original CRG with the smaller rail, and a SA MC OP. SA has better fit and finish, Colt feels better in hand. The Colt is also a rattle trap, and the SA requires a 6 o’clock hold. Colt hits POA. Trade offs with either, but neither has malfunctioned on me. I would and do carry both.

...respect to the man who raised the BS flag, my DW Specialist will beat the piss out of both of them and both thread options as well.
Link Posted: 2/13/2020 4:14:35 PM EDT
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Colt
Link Posted: 2/14/2020 3:53:21 AM EDT
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A commercial M45A1 or a Colt Custom Shop one? I've got a Colt Custom Shop one and the thing is as smooth as a Nighthawk and was from the day I opened the case; I was seriously impressed. Very well-fitted together, too. Even more impressive is it's the most ammo-agnostic, non-finicky 1911 I've ever used, and despite being a series 80 trigger it feels as nice and crisp as some of the nicest series 70s I've ever used. Really, really nice weapon. I'm not even much of a 1911 guy but I love that pistol and it quickly went from being intended as a safe queen collection piece to one I use frequently because it's just that enjoyable to shoot.

TRP is nice, but if I could go back and time and have either free of charge I'd get the CCS M45 again in a heartbeat.

Don't have trigger time on commercial M45A1s though, so cannot comment there.
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