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Posted: 5/23/2019 6:11:42 PM EDT
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There is such a thing as too bright indoors
600 is PLENTY. I have a 400 lumen light on my gun and it’s plenty bright enough inside. |
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Posted: 5/23/2019 6:13:30 PM EDT
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Get the 600 used and buy ammo with $ saved. The 600 sees as far as I can shoot with a pistol anyway.
And for the first motherfucker that says there is no such thing as too many lumens, then why do you have sunglasses? |
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Posted: 5/23/2019 6:14:06 PM EDT
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Unless it's a $ issue go with more lumens and get some training. After training you'll only want more light.
I'm not getting rid of or trading my 600lumen surefire because it's good enough, but would if someone wanted a 1-1 trade. |
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Posted: 5/24/2019 8:25:39 AM EDT
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1,000 lumens.
People saying that 600 is enough and 1,000 will get you killed in the streets do not understand much about light. I have multiple 3,000 lumen recessed lights inside of my home, but strangely I'm not blinded when I turn on the lights at 4 am. Odd... |
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Posted: 5/24/2019 8:29:24 AM EDT
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Both of these lights are 1,000 lumens, but appear very different. This is due to the concentration of light, also known as the "hot spot" which is in reference to candela.
The light on the left is a smaller light that I use for utility tasks. The light on the right is dedicated to spotting objects far away. Same output, different beams. So next time someone says 1,000 lumens is too much, I hope your eye twitches like mine does. 
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Posted: 5/24/2019 1:20:43 PM EDT
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1,000 lumens. People saying that 600 is enough and 1,000 will get you killed in the streets do not understand much about light. I have multiple 3,000 lumen recessed lights inside of my home, but strangely I'm not blinded when I turn on the lights at 4 am. Odd... |
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Posted: 5/24/2019 2:01:48 PM EDT
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The more, the better. Doesn’t listen to people that think you’ll blind yourself.
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Posted: 5/24/2019 2:09:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Link to 3,000 lumen light bulb please There are six in my kitchen alone, so that's about 10,000 lumens of light and I don't need sunglasses to cook. https://www.homedepot.com/p/Cree-120W-Equivalent-Bright-White-3000K-BR40-Dimmable-Exceptional-Light-Quality-LED-Light-Bulb-TBR40-18030FLFH25-12DE26-1-11/304491878 I have multiple flood lights that are even brighter for outside at night. |
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Posted: 5/24/2019 2:13:23 PM EDT
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600 is plenty.
I know we are in the Lumen Warz (tm) but unless we are talking about outdoors with distance issues.....600 lumen is plenty. Now, outside....give me those lumenz and bezelz (tm). |
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Posted: 5/24/2019 2:14:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My apologies, they are 3000K and 1750 lumens. I have about a dozen throughout the main rooms. There are six in my kitchen alone, so that's about 10,000 lumens of light and I don't need sunglasses to cook. https://www.homedepot.com/p/Cree-120W-Equivalent-Bright-White-3000K-BR40-Dimmable-Exceptional-Light-Quality-LED-Light-Bulb-TBR40-18030FLFH25-12DE26-1-11/304491878 I have multiple flood lights that are even brighter for outside at night. |
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Posted: 5/24/2019 2:19:53 PM EDT
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That's not how lumens work. |
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Posted: 5/24/2019 2:24:02 PM EDT
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600 is plenty. I know we are in the Lumen Warz (tm) but unless we are talking about outdoors with distance issues.....600 lumen is plenty. Now, outside....give me those lumenz and bezelz (tm). |
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Posted: 5/24/2019 3:25:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Both of these lights are 1,000 lumens, but appear very different. This is due to the concentration of light, also known as the "hot spot" which is in reference to candela. The light on the left is a smaller light that I use for utility tasks. The light on the right is dedicated to spotting objects far away. Same output, different beams. So next time someone says 1,000 lumens is too much, I hope your eye twitches like mine does. https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/58822223_10156231279195963_6131007674067714048_n.jpg?_nc_cat=111&_nc_eui2=AeErY8XHd3OnM6M9bai8CvWDFHHkcLg3tkVIwPowk_p551N7jSUV4NJgxT4awBt4dn7QrN9LYwrYC_wYFE0FXFZSTN2uKwGO6BlGFH54Q66bbw&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=41b612a903c52b85ecf90baba57ec8f7&oe=5D9C5012 |
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Posted: 5/25/2019 6:54:18 AM EDT
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Thanks, gang. I need to take a WML class. Seems many are saying with proper use and training 1000 is not too much.
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Posted: 5/25/2019 8:31:33 AM EDT
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Thanks, gang. I need to take a WML class. Seems many are saying with proper use and training 1000 is not too much. |
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Posted: 5/25/2019 2:28:45 PM EDT
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I have the 600. Would rather have the 1000. 600 is good too.
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Posted: 5/25/2019 9:10:21 PM EDT
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For a handgun get the 1,000, it is excellent. It has a much broader beam with a lower candela than the 600 lumen light. This gets you less throw but more coverage and the less intense hotspot is noticeable when comparing the two in the dark (this is acceptable on a handgun IMO). You do lose some range but that's OK on a handgun.
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Posted: 5/25/2019 9:29:01 PM EDT
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1000 will reach around corners like nobody's bidnez....600 not quite as well.
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Posted: 5/27/2019 2:54:15 AM EDT
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Olight. That's the answer. F SF. SF has been getting their asses handed to them by Olight for quite a few years now. SF is overpriced, old tech, .Gov contract stuff (not exactly cutting edge).
Personally, I wouldn't use a SF product if it were given to me (for free). Hot garbage. While I applaud them for being made in the USA... other than that... they have NOTHING going for them. |
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Posted: 5/27/2019 7:55:10 AM EDT
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Olight. That's the answer. F SF. SF has been getting their asses handed to them by Olight for quite a few years now. SF is overpriced, old tech, .Gov contract stuff (not exactly cutting edge). Personally, I wouldn't use a SF product if it were given to me (for free). Hot garbage. While I applaud them for being made in the USA... other than that... they have NOTHING going for them. I had the opportunity to compare multiple lights and a few handhelds: Olight PL-MINI Olight PL-2 Valkyrie Olight S1 Mini Baton Streamlight TLR-1 HL Streamlight HL-X (Handheld) Streamlight TLR-7 Surefire X300U (1000 lumens) Out of all the lights, the top three performers were the TLR-1 HL, HL-X, and X300U. The PL-2 boasts a claimed 1,200 lumens, but the runtime is only 1.5 minutes before it reverts to 600 lumens and the beam pattern is not as impressive as 1200 lumens sounds like. Olight isn't beating anyone. |
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Posted: 5/27/2019 10:43:53 AM EDT
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Olights WML's are not as amazing as people think they are. I had the opportunity to compare multiple lights and a few handhelds: Olight PL-MINI Olight PL-2 Valkyrie Olight S1 Mini Baton Streamlight TLR-1 HL Streamlight HL-X (Handheld) Streamlight TLR-7 Surefire X300U (1000 lumens) Out of all the lights, the top three performers were the TLR-1 HL, HL-X, and X300U. The PL-2 boasts a claimed 1,200 lumens, but the runtime is only 1.5 minutes before it reverts to 600 lumens and the beam pattern is not as impressive as 1200 lumens sounds like. Olight isn't beating anyone. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Olight. That's the answer. F SF. SF has been getting their asses handed to them by Olight for quite a few years now. SF is overpriced, old tech, .Gov contract stuff (not exactly cutting edge). Personally, I wouldn't use a SF product if it were given to me (for free). Hot garbage. While I applaud them for being made in the USA... other than that... they have NOTHING going for them. I had the opportunity to compare multiple lights and a few handhelds: Olight PL-MINI Olight PL-2 Valkyrie Olight S1 Mini Baton Streamlight TLR-1 HL Streamlight HL-X (Handheld) Streamlight TLR-7 Surefire X300U (1000 lumens) Out of all the lights, the top three performers were the TLR-1 HL, HL-X, and X300U. The PL-2 boasts a claimed 1,200 lumens, but the runtime is only 1.5 minutes before it reverts to 600 lumens and the beam pattern is not as impressive as 1200 lumens sounds like. Olight isn't beating anyone. |
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Posted: 5/27/2019 11:42:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I also don't trust cheap lights. They just don't last. |
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Posted: 5/27/2019 12:47:57 PM EDT
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That too. None of the offerings from Olight appear to be very robust. Their newest offering is 1500 lumens, IIRC, but it still has a low candela rating and uses a proprietary rechargeable battery. Rechargeable batteries are fine, but not being able to replace the rechargeable, that can fail, isn't something I'm interested in. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: I also don't trust cheap lights. They just don't last. I recommend to anybody to stick to Surefire and Streamlight, and I honestly don't even really trust Streamlight all that much. I've owned probably a dozen Surefires and I've never had one fail me. The first Streamlight I bought had issues straight out the box. I'm on number 2 now, but Unfortuantely its the only decent option for that particular gun. (Shield) |
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Posted: 5/27/2019 12:58:44 PM EDT
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Ive been weary of olights since they came out. There is always a reason something is that cheap compared to a proven light. I recommend to anybody to stick to Surefire and Streamlight, and I honestly don't even really trust Streamlight all that much. I've owned probably a dozen Surefires and I've never had one fail me. The first Streamlight I bought had issues straight out the box. I'm on number 2 now, but Unfortuantely its the only decent option for that particular gun. (Shield) Olight is not preferred by many people who actually use WML's, so that should be a clue. It's pretty obvious when the folks that buy Olight continually put down on Surefire. Most likely because they can't afford one or find the price unbelievable. They also typically have zero experience with Surefire lights. Olight is also known for paying big bucks to YouTube personalities to get good "reviews" and promote their products. |
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Posted: 5/28/2019 1:28:27 PM EDT
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The more, the better. Doesn’t listen to people that think you’ll blind yourself. |
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