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Quoted: Got out and shot it today. 30 or so rounds of 180 gr S&B. This stuff feeds perfectly, the ejection pattern is Low Earth Orbit. As far as the hardcast goes, 40 rounds each. The recoil is significantly increased from S&B or other range ammo. I had issues with bringing the optic back in line quickly after the shot. Primers strikes look very close to being pierced. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/71141/IMG_2573_jpeg-2814897.JPG 200 gr- 3 FTFeed. 220 gr- 3 Light Primer Strikes. Optic appears to have stayed tight this time. Edit: just ordered a couple 6lb striker springs. Today I’ll take the striker out and make sure it’s clean and try to clean the striker channel. View Quote thanks for the report! its a small sample size but isolates my optic screws shearing due to the plastic optic plate curious for the ftf, what recoil spring are you using and did you upgrade the magazine springs? any chance you limp wristed it? |
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Quoted: thanks for the report! its a small sample size but isolates my optic screws shearing due to the plastic optic plate curious for the ftf, what recoil spring are you using and did you upgrade the magazine springs? any chance you limp wristed it? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Got out and shot it today. 30 or so rounds of 180 gr S&B. This stuff feeds perfectly, the ejection pattern is Low Earth Orbit. As far as the hardcast goes, 40 rounds each. The recoil is significantly increased from S&B or other range ammo. I had issues with bringing the optic back in line quickly after the shot. Primers strikes look very close to being pierced. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/71141/IMG_2573_jpeg-2814897.JPG 200 gr- 3 FTFeed. 220 gr- 3 Light Primer Strikes. Optic appears to have stayed tight this time. Edit: just ordered a couple 6lb striker springs. Today I’ll take the striker out and make sure it’s clean and try to clean the striker channel. thanks for the report! its a small sample size but isolates my optic screws shearing due to the plastic optic plate curious for the ftf, what recoil spring are you using and did you upgrade the magazine springs? any chance you limp wristed it? Springs are 24lb Wolff. No on the mag springs. I don’t believe I limp wristed it. |
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[#3]
Quoted: Springs are 24lb Wolff. No on the mag springs. I don’t believe I limp wristed it. View Quote Your slide speed may be running faster than the stock magazine springs can handle (of which some are suspected to be weak)? You've got hot ammo throwing the slide back fast and a 24lb recoil spring catching it and bringing it quickly into battery.... idk you can try using a 22lb recoil spring and/or upgrading your magazine springs with springer precision, which is what I use. I have had one FTF issue with 220gr underwood out of ~30rds, but in fairness I likely limp wristed it -- i was afraid of my optic smacking me in the face for a third time and had the pistol up high above my forehead aiming down and not really aiming for precision at the target. Here are the springer precision (left) vs stock mag spring (right) Attached File |
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[#4]
I might snag a 22lb spring before I buy more underwood ammo, just to try it out.
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[#5]
Quoted: I might snag a 22lb spring before I buy more underwood ammo, just to try it out. View Quote I've got a 4.6" with the 22 lb Wolff Spring. Underwood 200 gr JHPs run just fine, but I still have some issues with the 200 gr hardcast. I'm going to try a few things here in the next few weeks to see if I can figure out the issue, but it might be mag springs. At least for me the 22 lb recoil spring isn't a panacea. |
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I sheared the optic plate screws on my 4" yesterday. The gun has several hundred rounds of mainly heavy bear loads through it. The Holosun went approximately 30 feet and the mount plate landed on my head.
Any good way to remove the screws? I have no local gun smiths. Closest one is 60 miles away. |
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Quoted: I sheared the optic plate screws on my 4" yesterday. The gun has several hundred rounds of mainly heavy bear loads through it. The Holosun went approximately 30 feet and the mount plate landed on my head. Any good way to remove the screws? I have no local gun smiths. Closest one is 60 miles away. View Quote Did you use the s&w plastic optic plate that came with the pistol? here is my post about it https://www.ar15.com/forums/Handguns/SandW-MandP-2-0-10mm-Is-Here/16-202613/?page=13#i2438089 |
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I’ve been following y’all’s posts on the 4.0” & 4.6”. Lots of good info! Sounds like most of you have been able to get them dialed in pretty good.
I picked up a 5.6” Performance Center model last week, but haven’t had a chance for a range day yet. This is my first polymer/striker handgun, I’m a 1911 guy, with 2 10mm & 2 .45 1911’s. I finally decided to try a 10mm that has more mag capacity. Dry firing my 5.6”, the trigger feels decent. I’m hopeful that the “tuning” the Performance Center did has helped on the trigger. If not, I can always go with an Apex after I’ve broke it in. I’ve been reloading 10mm since 1988, I intend to run “full” power reloads, but not nuclear, so I’ll keep the 22# & 24# springs in mind. Thanks to all for sharing their info! |
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Quoted: Did you use the s&w plastic optic plate that came with the pistol? here is my post about it https://www.ar15.com/forums/Handguns/SandW-MandP-2-0-10mm-Is-Here/16-202613/?page=13#i2438089 View Quote Yes, I used the plate that came with the gun. The lugs on the plate did not shear off only the screws did. I am going to attempt to extract the screws by using an extractor kit and my drill press. Wish me luck. |
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Quoted: Your slide speed may be running faster than the stock magazine springs can handle (of which some are suspected to be weak)? You've got hot ammo throwing the slide back fast and a 24lb recoil spring catching it and bringing it quickly into battery.... idk you can try using a 22lb recoil spring and/or upgrading your magazine springs with springer precision, which is what I use. I have had one FTF issue with 220gr underwood out of ~30rds, but in fairness I likely limp wristed it -- i was afraid of my optic smacking me in the face for a third time and had the pistol up high above my forehead aiming down and not really aiming for precision at the target. Here are the springer precision (left) vs stock mag spring (right) https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/210556/57029CBB-AF25-49D4-B702-105DBBE840FD_jpe-2683141.JPG View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Springs are 24lb Wolff. No on the mag springs. I don’t believe I limp wristed it. Your slide speed may be running faster than the stock magazine springs can handle (of which some are suspected to be weak)? You've got hot ammo throwing the slide back fast and a 24lb recoil spring catching it and bringing it quickly into battery.... idk you can try using a 22lb recoil spring and/or upgrading your magazine springs with springer precision, which is what I use. I have had one FTF issue with 220gr underwood out of ~30rds, but in fairness I likely limp wristed it -- i was afraid of my optic smacking me in the face for a third time and had the pistol up high above my forehead aiming down and not really aiming for precision at the target. Here are the springer precision (left) vs stock mag spring (right) https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/210556/57029CBB-AF25-49D4-B702-105DBBE840FD_jpe-2683141.JPG Ordered Springer Precision. Thanks |
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Do they offer a 10 round version yet? Haven’t seen one and I don’t trust the man not to jame me up with blocked mags given the chance.
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Quoted: Quoted: Do they offer a 10 round version yet? Haven’t seen one and I don’t trust the man not to jame me up with blocked mags given the chance. Rivet the mags? Nope, I want a factory or at least a Mecgar 10 round mag. S&W makes 10 round M&P 2.0 9mm mags, so they've clearly done it with other models. Manufacturers would sell a lot more firearms if they increased their magazine options. I've been looking at the 10mm S&W for almost a year now and haven't grabbed one because of this. I don't want any modification of the mag that some overzealous agency can undo and claim I'm in violation. |
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Quoted: Do they offer a 10 round version yet? Haven’t seen one and I don’t trust the man not to jame me up with blocked mags given the chance. View Quote I don’t think S&W makes a factory-permanent-limited 10mm magazine. You could epoxy one of these in place to create a 10 round limited mag (no personal experience): https://www.magazineblocks.com/magento/smith-wesson-m-p-10mm-full-size-10-15-magblock-10mm.html |
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Quoted: I don’t think S&W makes a factory-permanent-limited 10mm magazine. You could epoxy one of these in place to create a 10 round limited mag (no personal experience): https://www.magazineblocks.com/magento/smith-wesson-m-p-10mm-full-size-10-15-magblock-10mm.html View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Do they offer a 10 round version yet? Haven’t seen one and I don’t trust the man not to jame me up with blocked mags given the chance. I don’t think S&W makes a factory-permanent-limited 10mm magazine. You could epoxy one of these in place to create a 10 round limited mag (no personal experience): https://www.magazineblocks.com/magento/smith-wesson-m-p-10mm-full-size-10-15-magblock-10mm.html And then rivet it. |
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Quoted: Do they offer a 10 round version yet? Haven’t seen one and I don’t trust the man not to jame me up with blocked mags given the chance. View Quote i’d search calguns.net and see if any ffls offer that service or have someone in a free state purchase the mags, permanently block them and mail to you |
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Quoted: i’d search calguns.net and see if any ffls offer that service or have someone in a free state purchase the mags, permanently block them and mail to you View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Do they offer a 10 round version yet? Haven’t seen one and I don’t trust the man not to jame me up with blocked mags given the chance. i’d search calguns.net and see if any ffls offer that service or have someone in a free state purchase the mags, permanently block them and mail to you My FFL will block them and epoxy them. My personal policy is I don’t do altered mags, only factory 10 rounders. Appreciate the recommendations though. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Springs are 24lb Wolff. No on the mag springs. I don’t believe I limp wristed it. Your slide speed may be running faster than the stock magazine springs can handle (of which some are suspected to be weak)? You've got hot ammo throwing the slide back fast and a 24lb recoil spring catching it and bringing it quickly into battery.... idk you can try using a 22lb recoil spring and/or upgrading your magazine springs with springer precision, which is what I use. I have had one FTF issue with 220gr underwood out of ~30rds, but in fairness I likely limp wristed it -- i was afraid of my optic smacking me in the face for a third time and had the pistol up high above my forehead aiming down and not really aiming for precision at the target. Here are the springer precision (left) vs stock mag spring (right) https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/210556/57029CBB-AF25-49D4-B702-105DBBE840FD_jpe-2683141.JPG Ordered Springer Precision. Thanks USPS is freaking absurd. My mag springs were supposed to be delivered today, but USPS decided that once they got close they should take a small detour to another small town close by. Thanks, guys! |
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I’m going from a Holosun 407. & the M&P plastic plate to a direct mount Holosun SCS MP2. It definitely will sit lower on the frame. |
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Quoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/314595/IMG_9485_jpeg-2840357.JPG I’m going from a Holosun 407. & the M&P plastic plate to a direct mount Holosun SCS MP2. It definitely will sit lower on the frame. View Quote I like it. My Springer mag springs showed up… definitely stronger springs. By quite a margin. |
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Quoted: I like it. My Springer mag springs showed up… definitely stronger springs. By quite a margin. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/314595/IMG_9485_jpeg-2840357.JPG I’m going from a Holosun 407. & the M&P plastic plate to a direct mount Holosun SCS MP2. It definitely will sit lower on the frame. I like it. My Springer mag springs showed up… definitely stronger springs. By quite a margin. I like it as well. It definitely sits lower on the frame. The stock sights are essentially a full cowitness. I may swap them for “standard” height Dawson M&P CORE sights. I’ll shoot’s it sone though before making a decision. |
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Took my 4.6" with 22# recoil spring out for the fourth time and put some Underwood 200 gr hard cast and 115 gr xtreme defender through it. Man, every time I shoot this thing I encounter new issues. Before when I shot the hard cast the slide would occasionally (twice in one mag) lock back when I still had rounds in the magazine, or FTF (one per mag). This time I had the issue where the mag dropped out twice during one mag, but no slide lock back or FTF. With the xtreme defenders, I previously had no issues, but yesterday I had 1 FTF each magazine.
I'm about to give up on this thing as it's just too finicky to rely on in the woods. |
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Quoted: Took my 4.6" with 22# recoil spring out for the fourth time and put some Underwood 200 gr hard cast and 115 gr xtreme defender through it. Man, every time I shoot this thing I encounter new issues. Before when I shot the hard cast the slide would occasionally (twice in one mag) lock back when I still had rounds in the magazine, or FTF (one per mag). This time I had the issue where the mag dropped out twice during one mag, but no slide lock back or FTF. With the xtreme defenders, I previously had no issues, but yesterday I had 1 FTF each magazine. I'm about to give up on this thing as it's just too finicky to rely on in the woods. View Quote That sucks. It won’t run with OEM springs? |
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Quoted: Took my 4.6" with 22# recoil spring out for the fourth time and put some Underwood 200 gr hard cast and 115 gr xtreme defender through it. Man, every time I shoot this thing I encounter new issues. Before when I shot the hard cast the slide would occasionally (twice in one mag) lock back when I still had rounds in the magazine, or FTF (one per mag). This time I had the issue where the mag dropped out twice during one mag, but no slide lock back or FTF. With the xtreme defenders, I previously had no issues, but yesterday I had 1 FTF each magazine. I'm about to give up on this thing as it's just too finicky to rely on in the woods. View Quote I had the same issue with that combo (except with a 24# Wolff spring). I know some other members here have posted success with the Wolff spring/guide rod combo, but I think it was the cause of my issues (mag drops). I switched to a 24# flat Glock 20 spring and disassembled the stock captive recoil assembly. No issues after that. I think the Wolff combo binds and doesn't allow the slide enough travel, it bottoms out and causes excessive frame flex. |
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Quoted: I had the same issue with that combo (except with a 24# Wolff spring). I know some other members here have posted success with the Wolff spring/guide rod combo, but I think it was the cause of my issues (mag drops). I switched to a 24# flat Glock 20 spring and disassembled the stock captive recoil assembly. No issues after that. I think the Wolff combo binds and doesn't allow the slide enough travel, it bottoms out and causes excessive frame flex. View Quote I’ll try this, thanks! |
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Quoted: I had the same issue with that combo (except with a 24# Wolff spring). I know some other members here have posted success with the Wolff spring/guide rod combo, but I think it was the cause of my issues (mag drops). I switched to a 24# flat Glock 20 spring and disassembled the stock captive recoil assembly. No issues after that. I think the Wolff combo binds and doesn't allow the slide enough travel, it bottoms out and causes excessive frame flex. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Took my 4.6" with 22# recoil spring out for the fourth time and put some Underwood 200 gr hard cast and 115 gr xtreme defender through it. Man, every time I shoot this thing I encounter new issues. Before when I shot the hard cast the slide would occasionally (twice in one mag) lock back when I still had rounds in the magazine, or FTF (one per mag). This time I had the issue where the mag dropped out twice during one mag, but no slide lock back or FTF. With the xtreme defenders, I previously had no issues, but yesterday I had 1 FTF each magazine. I'm about to give up on this thing as it's just too finicky to rely on in the woods. I had the same issue with that combo (except with a 24# Wolff spring). I know some other members here have posted success with the Wolff spring/guide rod combo, but I think it was the cause of my issues (mag drops). I switched to a 24# flat Glock 20 spring and disassembled the stock captive recoil assembly. No issues after that. I think the Wolff combo binds and doesn't allow the slide enough travel, it bottoms out and causes excessive frame flex. You’re gonna cost me more $$. |
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I won a 4” at a work conference last month (raffle) and I was finally able to pick it up last week and installed a 24# recoil spring and an Apex ultimate striker block.
I can’t wait to break her in tomorrow. I have a couple mags loaded and one that isn’t, gonna compare springs. Does anyone know if they’ve corrected the weak mag springs? If not that will be my next upgrade as I plan on this being my woods gun. |
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I answered my own question, they have not worked out the bugs with the week magazine springs. I was planning on shooting 200 rounds, but stopped at 100 after I had 4FTF’s. They all happened with 3 to 4 rounds left in the magazine, I’m sure there wasn’t enough oomph to push the next round in
I ordered Springer precision‘s last magazine spring, kicking myself for not ordering it sooner so I would have enough. Overall, it shot really well, I’m happy to have it. I just need to get the one bug worked out so I can feel confident carrying it. |
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Quoted: I answered my own question, they have not worked out the bugs with the week magazine springs. I was planning on shooting 200 rounds, but stopped at 100 after I had 4FTF’s. They all happened with 3 to 4 rounds left in the magazine, I’m sure there wasn’t enough room to push the next round in I ordered Springer precision‘s last magazine spring, kicking myself for not ordering it sooner so I would have enough. Overall, it shot really well, I’m happy to have it. I just need to get the one bug worked out so I can feel confident carrying it. View Quote What load were you shooting? |
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Quoted: Took my 4.6" with 22# recoil spring out for the fourth time and put some Underwood 200 gr hard cast and 115 gr xtreme defender through it. Man, every time I shoot this thing I encounter new issues. Before when I shot the hard cast the slide would occasionally (twice in one mag) lock back when I still had rounds in the magazine, or FTF (one per mag). This time I had the issue where the mag dropped out twice during one mag, but no slide lock back or FTF. With the xtreme defenders, I previously had no issues, but yesterday I had 1 FTF each magazine. I'm about to give up on this thing as it's just too finicky to rely on in the woods. View Quote It could be part of the issue is using bullet weights at the extremes of the spectrum for the cartridge. I have no experience with the xtreme defenders, but for a long time people have reported issues with 220 gr bullets in G20s. You might need to have your pistol set up one way for 220s and another for 115s. I've had great success with 180's and 200's. From my reading across multiple forums since the pistols came out, it seems the heaviest 220 gr projectiles have been a lot of the issues with guns running smoothly. I'm not saying lighter weights haven't had issues. Something to think about. Going with a 200 gr hardcast at a stoutly loaded 10mm velocity is not giving up very much real world performance over a 220 gr hardcast. |
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[#37]
Hello people of the internet I have a 10mm M&P 2.0 with the 4" barrel and I am looking for an owb holster that preferably accommodates a streamlight TLR-1 HL which is not necessary, and some heavier recoil springs for it and I was wondering if any of you fine people had any suggestions for me?
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[#38]
Hey I was wondering where you found those springs I have a 4" model too and I've been wanting some heavier springs to do some really fun handloads?
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View Quote I have one TLR and it sits in the drawer. I wish more holster companies would diversify a little more on light options... |
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Quoted: I have one TLR and it sits in the drawer. I wish more holster companies would diversify a little more on light options... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: I have one TLR and it sits in the drawer. I wish more holster companies would diversify a little more on light options... How quickly can you ship it to Texas? |
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Thank you I appreciate the input but I would like to ask what your opinion is on the galloway springs? I have heard mixed reviews on how well they function.
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Thank you I will look into these holsters and will still search for a safariland style holster that fits this firearm.
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[#45]
Quoted: Thank you I appreciate the input but I would like to ask what your opinion is on the galloway springs? I have heard mixed reviews on how well they function. View Quote I like it so far, even the underwood felt very manageable. As I stated, I believe my FTF were the result of weak mag springs. I’m getting a delivery on the mag springs tomorrow and hopefully I’m 100% after that. |
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Let me know how that goes I have not had too many FTF outside of the first 150-250 rds on the factory range ammo so I;m going to hold off on mag springs for a bit longer.
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I am looking for a cross draw holster to fit MY MP 10mm with 4.62" barrel. Does anyone have any recommendations?
Something like the Galco Phoenix is what I am wanting but it isn't made to fit this model. Thanks |
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Quoted: I am looking for a cross draw holster to fit MY MP 10mm with 4.62" barrel. Does anyone have any recommendations? Something like the Galco Phoenix is what I am wanting but it isn't made to fit this model. Thanks View Quote the 10mm is the exact same size as the m&p 45 and i believe 9mm as well |
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Quoted: the 10mm is the exact same size as the m&p 45 and i believe 9mm as well View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I am looking for a cross draw holster to fit MY MP 10mm with 4.62" barrel. Does anyone have any recommendations? Something like the Galco Phoenix is what I am wanting but it isn't made to fit this model. Thanks the 10mm is the exact same size as the m&p 45 and i believe 9mm as well I believe the 9mm is smaller. |
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Anyone have one of the Performance Center M&P 10 guns with the compensator? I held one today and I really like it
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