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Posted: 1/16/2020 1:41:14 PM EDT
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? I think .220 Swift & .22-250 are popular in Scotland - they shoot em in the neck. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Why would you want to use 5.7 for deer hunting? At best you would have the equivalent of a .223 varmint sized round traveling up to 2000 fps slower than it would out of a full size ar15 platform (just spot checked, hornady super performance 223 35 gr is 4000 fps) and nobody would ever recommend a slow, or even fast, varmint round for hunting deer. |
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Posted: 1/19/2020 7:23:11 AM EDT
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I wonder if the ruger 57 could handle the 7.5 FK BRNO round.
5.7x28 7.5 x 27 I want a 5.7 Ruger and PCC...those two in the 7.5 would be immediate buys. |
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Posted: 1/19/2020 1:25:24 PM EDT
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I wonder if the ruger 57 could handle the 7.5 FK BRNO round. 5.7x28 7.5 x 27 I want a 5.7 Ruger and PCC...those two in the 7.5 would be immediate buys. |
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Posted: 1/19/2020 1:52:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ruger 5.7 is a lever delayed blowback w/ floating bbl - that's gonna be hard to scale up to 7.5mm FK.  
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Posted: 1/19/2020 2:47:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: .221 fireball?
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Posted: 1/19/2020 3:13:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think you'd have to use a reduced OAL. |
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Posted: 1/26/2020 10:14:34 PM EDT
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I just placed an order for on on GT distributors, normally not a ruger pistol fan but this one got my interest
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Posted: 1/27/2020 4:01:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why would you want to use 5.7 for deer hunting? At best you would have the equivalent of a .223 varmint sized round traveling up to 2000 fps slower than it would out of a full size ar15 platform (just spot checked, hornady super performance 223 35 gr is 4000 fps) and nobody would ever recommend a slow, or even fast, varmint round for hunting deer. 
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Posted: 1/27/2020 5:44:17 PM EDT
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Quoted: Why would you want to use 5.7 for deer hunting? At best you would have the equivalent of a .223 varmint sized round traveling up to 2000 fps slower than it would out of a full size ar15 platform (just spot checked, hornady super performance 223 35 gr is 4000 fps) and nobody would ever recommend a slow, or even fast, varmint round for hunting deer. https://i.imgur.com/Q4EEyCz.jpg This is a great example of my problem with your schtick on this site, 5.7 is your hammer and it's all you care about so you make everything a nail for it when there are better tools available. I could literally buy a new bolt action savage in most rifle calibers with scope and enough ammo to hunt and practice with for years for what this pistol costs alone and not be using a marginal caliber for deer. The same could be said for pistol season using an AR pattern pistol in any number of calibers or a big bore revolver (likely used, not new on that last count). |
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Posted: 1/27/2020 10:16:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Of course a well placed shot (or 20 I guess) with a 5.7 will kill a deer. People can, and do, poach deer with .22 short but that doesn't make it a good round for the job. I bet someone has even taken a deer with a .177 caliber pellet before. This is a great example of my problem with your schtick on this site, 5.7 is your hammer and it's all you care about so you make everything a nail for it when there are better tools available. I could literally buy a new bolt action savage in most rifle calibers with scope and enough ammo to hunt and practice with for years for what this pistol costs alone and not be using a marginal caliber for deer. The same could be said for pistol season using an AR pattern pistol in any number of calibers or a big bore revolver (likely used, not new on that last count). |
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Posted: 1/27/2020 10:44:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was just showing it HAD been used for deer, the only thing I’ve hunted for with 5.7 walks on two legs. 
Thanks for the pic. I will say I wasn't really concerned about if it would work, I assumed it would, I just wanted to know if it'd be WI legal and I got that answer in the GD thread. It's not. The WDNR can be goofy and I just wanted to know upfront how they might consider the gun if I were to encounter a warden. |
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Posted: 2/2/2020 6:37:02 PM EDT
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How is the grip size compared to the FN five seven? Wife likes the recoil of hte five seven but her small hands have a hard time wrapping around it. If the Ruger is even a smidge smaller/thinner/shorter in the grip area I think it'll be a better alternative.
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Posted: 2/2/2020 8:19:43 PM EDT
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How is the grip size compared to the FN five seven? Wife likes the recoil of hte five seven but her small hands have a hard time wrapping around it. If the Ruger is even a smidge smaller/thinner/shorter in the grip area I think it'll be a better alternative. |
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Posted: 2/2/2020 11:24:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Reportedly it's thinner. Haven't held one myself. |
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Posted: 2/9/2020 9:48:01 AM EDT
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 Ruger 57 REview: Ruger 57 vs FN FiveseveN |
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Posted: 2/9/2020 5:45:21 PM EDT
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I’m surprised he had so many issues with his FN57. I’ve always heard they’re ultra-reliable
I’d like to see the meat test with 198LF |
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Posted: 2/9/2020 10:22:25 PM EDT
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I’m surprised he had so many issues with his FN57. I’ve always heard they’re ultra-reliable I’d like to see the meat test with 198LF First of all he states that the FiveseveN is available with fixed sights, it hasn’t been since the USG was replaced by the MKII in 2013. Next he talks about why his USG won’t group because he had fixed sights installed, that’s utter BULLSHIT! Grouping isn’t dependent on where your sights are adjusted to. If you use the same aiming point and can shoot, you shout have a decent group. He jacks a round into the chamber of a 1911 and then lowers the hammer down with his finger. THAT’S how you get a negligent discharge! Every time he has fired 5.7x28mm he uses ”FN” SS197 which is one of the WEAKEST loads available (it’s also one of the most unreliable) I’d like to see his vaunted “meat target” after several rounds of Elite S4M or R&R R37.X, but no, he has to only “test” with Fiocchi SS197. |
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Posted: 2/9/2020 11:07:02 PM EDT
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Well, taking a break from the caliber wars and getting back to the gun, I went out this morning and shot my FN and Ruger side by side. To be honest, I like shooting the FN a little better. The Ruger seemed a little more snappy to me, and I didn’t care as much for the slimmer grip. The wider FN felt better in my hand. The Ruger also had a more rearward ejection, so when I was shooting SS197, I was getting pelted with cases bouncing off the walls of the shooting stall. With the same ammo, the FN cases were bouncing slightly forward and not on me. The slide release on the Ruger did loosen up a little from being stiff out of the box, but I still think it’s too small, and the 1911 style extended safety lever gets in the way a bit when trying to release it with my thumb. The FN slide release is much better. Also loading the Ruger mags was a bit more difficult because of their decision to put little detents in the feedlips where the case groove is. I suppose they are there to prevent the rounds from sliding forward, but the practical effect when loading is that you have to load the rounds straight from the top. If the round is a little forward and the rim is in front of the detent, you have to slide the round out forward and try again, because you can’t simply slide the round all the way back. I did like the Ruger front FO sight. Trigger and accuracy seemed to be on a par with each other; I didn’t have any real preference of one over the other, except for recoil for which I preferred the FN. Reliability on both was 100% on mine with the limited amount of SS196 and SS197 that I used. Overall, I don’t think I’d trade my FN for a Ruger, but I’m sure the price difference is going to drive a lot of people to the Ruger no matter what. YMMV. PS, hadn’t shot 5.7 for a while and forgot how flashy it was. |
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Posted: 3/3/2020 11:48:40 PM EDT
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Any idea on when production is going to catch up to demand?
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Posted: 3/16/2020 1:31:15 AM EDT
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Any idea on when production is going to catch up to demand? |
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Posted: 3/16/2020 10:32:20 PM EDT
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Been following the Ruger 57 for awhile. Missed out on the starting prices on the M17 Surplus pistols and told myself I wasn't going to wait until prices skyrocketed on the Ruger 57. Not that they will be near the price of the M17s but I just checked Gunbroker and folks are already taking advantage of the shortage and they're selling around 800 and beyond.
Purchased two on Budsguns through their Reserve program. One for myself and a friend will receive the other one for 679.00 each shipped. (Not doing a straw purchase, will do a transfer on the spot). I was hesitant because I already have the FN version and a Masterpiece Arms 5.7 carbine. My FN and the carbine use the same mags. They made the carbines to take the cheaper Promag version of the FN mags which are a lot cheaper and work perfect. My pistol does better with the FN mags however. Maybe Ruger will come out with a carbine. Anyway, in case anyone wants to purchase one in Reserve, Budsguns has them. |
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Posted: 4/17/2020 9:22:36 PM EDT
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Ackh finally found one in stock.
Gave $688 with tax. So, anyone find mags cheaper than Ruger yet? And ammo. My gosh we need cheaper ammo for these. How about after market stuff? 
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Posted: 4/17/2020 10:45:05 PM EDT
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Where did you find it?
Haven't found any cheaper mags or ammo. |
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Posted: 4/18/2020 12:13:28 AM EDT
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low cost 5.7 ammo, right now?
bahahahaha! |
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Posted: 4/18/2020 3:11:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Where did you find it? Haven't found any cheaper mags or ammo. Shiptons big R Sheridan WY. Freind called them. They had three. And we drove all the way to Sheridan to get them I did use the 20%off ruger stuff included with the pistol. So ordered two extra from Ruger. CDNN has them online but the clowns want $749.99 and after shipping, ffl fee and tax that would be close to $800. |
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Posted: 4/22/2020 8:41:21 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/22/2020 11:09:59 PM EDT
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Well I shot mine today.
Two of the 4 boxes I had. Nobody has had any 5.7 in stock. Looks like I'll be needing to reload this stuff. Am not looking to buy a large order until the wootan flue panic dies down some. Buddy of mine spotted some cocksore with 30 boxes in his cart in Sportsman Whorehouse. This pistol flung the brass further than my Tok did. |
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Posted: 4/22/2020 11:12:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well I shot mine today. Two of the 4 boxes I had. Nobody has had any 5.7 in stock. Looks like I'll be needing to reload this stuff. Am not looking to buy a large order until the wootan flue panic dies down some. Buddy of mine spotted some cocksore with 30 boxes in his cart in Sportsman Whorehouse. This pistol flung the brass further than my Tok did. What do you think of it? Can you tell us more? |
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Posted: 4/23/2020 12:21:11 AM EDT
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Ok for starters I expected to do some site cranking to site in.
This was false and it shot a few inchs high is all That is unusual for a Ruger where I think they higher crack pimps to put their sites on. I expected a break in but it ran all 100 rounds no problem. It throws brass a good 30 feet. It seemed that it wanted to shoot and accuracy at 25 yards was around 2-3 inch. American Eagle shot better than FN blue tip. The trigger is never going to be 1911 or CZ ish. It felt a big bunch like my Security 9 but much lighter. Also this thing looks like a big honking handgun but it is fairly light. It wouldn't take a fully loaded magazine on a closed slide. 19 ok 20 not so much. The safety Lever engaged positively but I am not sure why it has a trigger dingus and manual safety. Maybe some one will come out with an after market dingus eliminater. I couldn't use the magazine button without rotating my grip. That is typical for me though. Is the juice worth the squeeze though? I think this pistol is a $450 handgun at most. |
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Posted: 4/23/2020 9:31:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Looks like I'll be needing to reload this stuff. When I looked at 5.7x28 years ago, reloading for it was not a simple affair. I'm not sure if that's still the case. Do your research before investing in dies and brass. |
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Posted: 4/23/2020 11:18:24 PM EDT
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Wash brass in simple green mix to not remove coating. Use good dies. size, trim to length, prime, use a very accurate powder drop as .1 can put you between safe and max. Use 30-45gr bullets. Bam done..
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Posted: 7/9/2020 3:11:59 PM EDT
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Here's a recent article about reloading the little 5.7x28.
https://www.shootingillustrated.com/articles/2020/7/6/tip-handloading-the-57x28-mm-cartridge/ |
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