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Posted: 9/12/2018 8:41:02 PM EDT
Exactly as the title says, the guide came unscrewed from the cap and now it is impossible to take apart fully or put back together. IDK what to do other then toss it in the trash, I've just being having a bad day and this could not have happened at a better time, I have put only 150 rounds through this gun and it was unfired before I got it.
No I did not try to unscrew the guide rod when I stripped and oiled it before the first time I took it out. I will post pictures as soon as I can. Edit:I managed to screw it back in via vise grips somewhat, hopefully I can get it back together, as soon as that happens it's gone, this was my first 1911, and now I have zero urge to ever touch one again. Edit 2:it is bushingless, and the guide rod isn't all the way unscrewed. Edit 3: the I put the slide on after it was screwed back in slightly and pulled back to see if i couldn't put in the catch to get to the takedown hole on the guide rod, that apparently was enough to completely unscrew the guide rod, but the rod didn't come out, instead the cap flew off as soon as I took the slide off and the spring fucked itself. EDIT 4: I had the guide rod mostly back into the cap but cycling the slide completely unscrews it. Edit 5: I finally got it apart, according to RIA there is supposed to be loctite on the threads of the cap, but there isn't any, thank you to those that helped. |
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Did you call RIA? View Quote I managed to screw it back in via vise grips somewhat, hopefully I can get it back together, as soon as that happens it's gone, this was my first 1911, and now I have zero urge to ever touch one again. |
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Send it back and they will fix it, just use my address as return address.
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If the guide rod is out, why not remove the barrel bushing and disassemble the gun? You don't sound like you are a very good bowler............
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RIA doesn't exactly set the bar in the world of 1911s. Hard to judge 1911 platform by one of the cheapest examples made.
But- RIA has good customer service. |
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Exactly as the title says, the guide came unscrewed from the cap and now it is impossible to take apart fully or put back together. IDK what to do other then toss it in the trash, I've just being having a bad day and this could not have happened at a better time, I have put only 150 rounds through this gun and it was unfired before I got it. No I did not try to unscrew the guide rod when I stripped and oiled it before the first time I took it out. I will post pictures as soon as I can. Edit:I managed to screw it back in via vise grips somewhat, hopefully I can get it back together, as soon as that happens it's gone, this was my first 1911, and now I have zero urge to ever touch one again. View Quote I purchased the greatest gun ever designed, but put zero effort into learning how it operated, and when I neglected a stupid simple bit of maintenence, the front fell off, now, since I put zero effort into learning how this gun operates, I posted on arfcom instead of googling how to reinstall the part without damaging it. Then , when people posted, I went and found the most destructive possible tool to try to reassemble it. Dude, if you purchase a gun, it is your absolute responsibility to learn how to competently operate it. That you put 150 rounds through it means you should have already educated yourself, but failed. Get thee to google and learn. You don't have to thank me, but you should heed me. |
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I don't understand how you re having this much trouble with a two-piece guiderod, or why you couldn't disassemble it.
I'll be happy to dispose of it for you, though. |
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How about removing the slide stop, and taking the entire top off as one piece.
Deal with it from there. |
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Quoted: Translation: I purchased the greatest gun ever designed, but put zero effort into learning how it operated, and when I neglected a stupid simple bit of maintenence, the front fell off, now, since I put zero effort into learning how this gun operates, I posted on arfcom instead of googling how to reinstall the part without damaging it. Then , when people posted, I went and found the most destructive possible tool to try to reassemble it. Dude, if you purchase a gun, it is your absolute responsibility to learn how to competently operate it. That you put 150 rounds through it means you should have already educated yourself, but failed. Get thee to google and learn. You don't have to thank me, but you should heed me. View Quote |
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Meh. Don't be a baby. Happened to me too and they just sent me a new rod. Haven't had any trouble since.
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Translation: I purchased the greatest gun ever designed, but put zero effort into learning how it operated, and when I neglected a stupid simple bit of maintenence, the front fell off, now, since I put zero effort into learning how this gun operates, I posted on arfcom instead of googling how to reinstall the part without damaging it. Then , when people posted, I went and found the most destructive possible tool to try to reassemble it. Dude, if you purchase a gun, it is your absolute responsibility to learn how to competently operate it. That you put 150 rounds through it means you should have already educated yourself, but failed. Get thee to google and learn. You don't have to thank me, but you should heed me. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Exactly as the title says, the guide came unscrewed from the cap and now it is impossible to take apart fully or put back together. IDK what to do other then toss it in the trash, I've just being having a bad day and this could not have happened at a better time, I have put only 150 rounds through this gun and it was unfired before I got it. No I did not try to unscrew the guide rod when I stripped and oiled it before the first time I took it out. I will post pictures as soon as I can. Edit:I managed to screw it back in via vise grips somewhat, hopefully I can get it back together, as soon as that happens it's gone, this was my first 1911, and now I have zero urge to ever touch one again. I purchased the greatest gun ever designed, but put zero effort into learning how it operated, and when I neglected a stupid simple bit of maintenence, the front fell off, now, since I put zero effort into learning how this gun operates, I posted on arfcom instead of googling how to reinstall the part without damaging it. Then , when people posted, I went and found the most destructive possible tool to try to reassemble it. Dude, if you purchase a gun, it is your absolute responsibility to learn how to competently operate it. That you put 150 rounds through it means you should have already educated yourself, but failed. Get thee to google and learn. You don't have to thank me, but you should heed me. I feel like the brand doesn't matter OP would have had a problem with any manufacturers version. |
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Why all the drama? Just contact RIA. They have a good CS reputation.
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It happened a few hours ago, they didn't pick up so I assume they are closed after 4pm (whatever time that is for them). I managed to screw it back in via vise grips somewhat, hopefully I can get it back together, as soon as that happens it's gone, this was my first 1911, and now I have zero urge to ever touch one again. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Did you call RIA? I managed to screw it back in via vise grips somewhat, hopefully I can get it back together, as soon as that happens it's gone, this was my first 1911, and now I have zero urge to ever touch one again. |
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Not to mention the specific model purchased is a more advanced variant that takes more understanding than a standard GI model. I feel like the brand doesn't matter OP would have had a problem with any manufacturers version. View Quote I did more googling because fuck me for asking for help on a forum, and found one other case of exactly what happened to me, it boiled down to a manufacturing/assembly defect that there is nothing I could have done anything about. I also looked in the manual for the 7 millionth time since I purchased it and the manual lacks the exploded view for this exact model. |
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RIA is the only manufacturer that uses this style of guide rod as far as I can tell. I did more googling because fuck me for asking for help on a forum, and found one other case of exactly what happened to me, it boiled down to a manufacturing/assembly defect that there is nothing I could have done anything about. I also looked in the manual for the 7 millionth time since I purchased it and the manual lacks the exploded view for this exact model. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Not to mention the specific model purchased is a more advanced variant that takes more understanding than a standard GI model. I feel like the brand doesn't matter OP would have had a problem with any manufacturers version. I did more googling because fuck me for asking for help on a forum, and found one other case of exactly what happened to me, it boiled down to a manufacturing/assembly defect that there is nothing I could have done anything about. I also looked in the manual for the 7 millionth time since I purchased it and the manual lacks the exploded view for this exact model. If your OP would have been "Hey my thing broke, here are some pics, any ideas? I guarantee you would have gotten WAY different reactions. |
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Well, when your first inclination when running into an issue is to throw the gun version of a tantrum and say you're going to throw it in the trash, what real purpose is there of trying to help if you've already given up before trying anything else? If your OP would have been "Hey my thing broke, here are some pics, any ideas? I guarantee you would have gotten WAY different reactions. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Not to mention the specific model purchased is a more advanced variant that takes more understanding than a standard GI model. I feel like the brand doesn't matter OP would have had a problem with any manufacturers version. I did more googling because fuck me for asking for help on a forum, and found one other case of exactly what happened to me, it boiled down to a manufacturing/assembly defect that there is nothing I could have done anything about. I also looked in the manual for the 7 millionth time since I purchased it and the manual lacks the exploded view for this exact model. If your OP would have been "Hey my thing broke, here are some pics, any ideas? I guarantee you would have gotten WAY different reactions. |
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I want to see a picture because I can't visualize what unscrewed. I know what the guide rod is (!) but if it's one piece what unscrewed?
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I gotcha now. I went through the safe and dragged out my brothers TAC 2 and then watched a Youtube video.
My pistol isn't apart for comparison but I wonder if you could compress just a few coils of the spring, enough to give you some slack, and then get it screwed back together? |
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I gotcha now. I went through the safe and dragged out my brothers TAC 2 and then watched a Youtube video. My pistol isn't apart for comparison but I wonder if you could compress just a few coils of the spring, enough to give you some slack, and then get it screwed back together? View Quote |
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That's why real 1911 guys don't mess with anything but g.i. guide rods and plugs.
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That's why real 1911 guys don't mess with anything but g.i. guide rods and plugs. View Quote |
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Well, maybe de-grease it really well. Both parts. Reassemble and use some permanent Loctite. Maybe even stake it if that's possible. Then get RIA to send you a new one.
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Real 1911 guys also seem to do a lot of talking out of their asses. I realize that pictures would have helped, and that I should have calmed down before I typed anything out, but the know it all attitudes don't help. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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That's why real 1911 guys don't mess with anything but g.i. guide rods and plugs. ETA- In 5" barrel government models, the GI guide and plug is the way to go, and inexpensive too. BTW, if you clean the threads and apply red loctite to them and reassemble, it won't come apart again. It is VERY common for it to come apart if it was finger tight with no thread locker. It probably made it through assembly at the factory like that. |
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RIA doesn't exactly set the bar in the world of 1911s. Hard to judge 1911 platform by one of the cheapest examples made. But- RIA has good customer service. View Quote Maybe he should read the owner’s manual and check YouTube? |
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