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Posted: 1/31/2021 10:16:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tt350z: Can't be worse then this fiasco https://www.ar15.com/forums/handguns/Glock_19_and_34_gen4_slide_milling_failure___Tooth_and_Nail_Armory_in_MO/13-162644/ |
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Posted: 2/1/2021 5:11:21 PM EDT
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Any cross dominant dot users out there? Any issues or tips?
Thinking about a 507 on my old Gen 2 19 or maybe a 507k on my 43x... leaning towards the 19 since it should flip less and I’ll lose the dot less. |
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Posted: 2/1/2021 5:26:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dcs12345: Any cross dominant dot users out there? Any issues or tips? Thinking about a 507 on my old Gen 2 19 or maybe a 507k on my 43x... leaning towards the 19 since it should flip less and I'll lose the dot less. |
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Posted: 2/1/2021 6:30:05 PM EDT
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I'm cross dominant and no issues.
Should not cause an issue regardless. If you have both palms in contact with the grips, it doesn't matter if you shift 1" to the R to line up with R eye, or 1" to the left to line up with L eye.... |
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Posted: 2/2/2021 11:23:37 AM EDT
[#5]
  I guess I get to join this club now, since I have an actual micro RDS on a centerfire, rather than slapping a red dot on a Ruger 22/45. 
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Posted: 2/2/2021 12:01:08 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Seven-Shooter: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/129976/6077F4E2-B6B2-4767-BE32-34EB89FA8DE0-1806401.jpghttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/129976/1AE33E1B-8D66-4E04-A8A6-B23AD0BC1F2D-1806403.jpg I guess I get to join this club now, since I have an actual micro RDS on a centerfire, rather than slapping a red dot on a Ruger 22/45. |
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Posted: 2/2/2021 12:05:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dcs12345: Any cross dominant dot users out there? Any issues or tips? Thinking about a 507 on my old Gen 2 19 or maybe a 507k on my 43x... leaning towards the 19 since it should flip less and I’ll lose the dot less. I'm cross dominant and had a hard time transitioning. Good part is that your eyes are muscles so can be trained. Takes awhile but well worth it. |
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Posted: 2/2/2021 12:49:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Seven-Shooter: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/129976/6077F4E2-B6B2-4767-BE32-34EB89FA8DE0-1806401.jpghttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/129976/1AE33E1B-8D66-4E04-A8A6-B23AD0BC1F2D-1806403.jpg I guess I get to join this club now, since I have an actual micro RDS on a centerfire, rather than slapping a red dot on a Ruger 22/45. I'm genuinely curious as to what your use case is for your setup. Do you activate your light and leave it on, or are you able to manipulate the momentary controls? |
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Posted: 2/2/2021 3:08:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vmpglenn: I'm genuinely curious as to what your use case is for your setup. Do you activate your light and leave it on, or are you able to manipulate the momentary controls? Not ideal, but it's partially hedging bets against idiocy from the VA legislature, not to mention federally. |
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Posted: 2/6/2021 2:50:39 AM EDT
[#10]
Glock 40 MOS and Glock 45 MOS that was not milled by a neighbor with a Dremel.
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Posted: 2/10/2021 9:30:30 AM EDT
[Last Edit: doubleshot00]
[#11]
Guys need some pros and cons here.
I've got a Gen5 mos 19 with a rmr non adjustable on top. Its a love hate relationship with this optic. Very difficult to find the dot at night with a light "on" but i should have known this. So considering selling and getting an adjustable one???? So my conundrum is i have a G17 gen4 that i want to send off to get the slide milled and defiantly getting a rmr cut. But cant decide between another rmr or a new Holosun. RMR is proven but I've never owned a Holosun before but that reticle looks awesome. Picture for attention:  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/10/2021 7:07:14 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By vmpglenn: I'm genuinely curious as to what your use case is for your setup. Do you activate your light and leave it on, or are you able to manipulate the momentary controls? I was a little confused as well. I'm not sure how I'd use that light. I would probably just go with a handheld light instead. What are the rail covers for? |
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Posted: 2/10/2021 8:09:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By doubleshot00: Guys need some pros and cons here. I've got a Gen5 mos 19 with a rmr non adjustable on top. Its a love hate relationship with this optic. Very difficult to find the dot at night with a light "on" but i should have known this. So considering selling and getting an adjustable one???? So my conundrum is i have a G17 gen4 that i want to send off to get the slide milled and defiantly getting a rmr cut. But cant decide between another rmr or a new Holosun. RMR is proven but I've never owned a Holosun before but that reticle looks awesome. Picture for attention: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/205725/F03C6416-F92B-4BB6-B011-9DD5F47CE252_jpe-1818618.JPG |
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Posted: 2/11/2021 9:11:17 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Seven-Shooter]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TROB: What are the rail covers for? Seemed like a good idea at the time .I'll keep the rail covers off, so that I can use the irons if the RDS is detached (the 1913ish rails have a trough down the middle for that purpose). And a handheld light would make it difficult to do things like open doors/corral the kiddos/hold the phone in the non-gun hand. |
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Posted: 2/11/2021 3:24:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TROB: I was a little confused as well. I'm not sure how I'd use that light. I would probably just go with a handheld light instead. What are the rail covers for? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TROB: Originally Posted By vmpglenn: I'm genuinely curious as to what your use case is for your setup. Do you activate your light and leave it on, or are you able to manipulate the momentary controls? I was a little confused as well. I'm not sure how I'd use that light. I would probably just go with a handheld light instead. What are the rail covers for? Trying to reload with a handheld isn't hard but it does smash the light up to the gun. Not a big deal for stainless. |
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Posted: 2/11/2021 3:26:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Seven-Shooter: Seemed like a good idea at the time .I'll keep the rail covers off, so that I can use the irons if the RDS is detached (the 1913ish rails have a trough down the middle for that purpose). And a handheld light would make it difficult to do things like open doors/corral the kiddos/hold the phone in the non-gun hand. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Seven-Shooter: Originally Posted By TROB: What are the rail covers for? Seemed like a good idea at the time .I'll keep the rail covers off, so that I can use the irons if the RDS is detached (the 1913ish rails have a trough down the middle for that purpose). And a handheld light would make it difficult to do things like open doors/corral the kiddos/hold the phone in the non-gun hand. It doesn't seem quite as easy as a wml on an auto but still simpler than a handheld. Its just a longer reach. |
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Posted: 2/11/2021 5:13:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: joglee]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Seven-Shooter: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/129976/6077F4E2-B6B2-4767-BE32-34EB89FA8DE0-1806401.jpghttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/129976/1AE33E1B-8D66-4E04-A8A6-B23AD0BC1F2D-1806403.jpg I guess I get to join this club now, since I have an actual micro RDS on a centerfire, rather than slapping a red dot on a Ruger 22/45. That's kinda cool actually.  I've got a RDS on the way, just gotta wait for it to come in. |
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Posted: 2/12/2021 12:41:40 PM EDT
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Already posted in here, but swapped the 507c X2 for the 508T X2. I got lucky and found one in stock
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Posted: 2/12/2021 4:45:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hox: Already posted in here, but swapped the 507c X2 for the 508T X2. I got lucky and found one in stock https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/301997/20210212_111011_jpg-1821716.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/301997/20210212_111038_jpg-1821717.JPG |
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Posted: 2/12/2021 6:25:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bradd_D: You should just put an Eotech on the gun. |
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Posted: 2/12/2021 7:57:38 PM EDT
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Single dot > circle dot
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Posted: 2/12/2021 8:13:49 PM EDT
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Is the Leupold DPP as problematic as the reports seem? I'm thinking about trying a red dot again and apparently these are what STIs are cut for.
I can run an SRO but it would higher, I previously used an RMR. Hopefully the gunk blown onto the glass issue was more isolated to that gun. Too bad the ACRO battery life didn't pan out. |
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Posted: 2/12/2021 8:47:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: xCLAYBUSTERx]
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The RMR has the same base height with the plate as the DPP. The DPP base is pretty tall, I tried one for a couple months and went back to the SRO on my XC.
I don’t know which version of the DUO plate you have but the newest ones are about .150” tall and I think the CHWPS plates are even lower. |
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Posted: 2/12/2021 8:52:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 762SR25]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kuryakyn: The RMR has the same base height with the plate as the DPP. The DPP base is pretty tall, I tried one for a couple months and went back to the SRO on my XC. I don’t know which version of the DUO plate you have but the newest ones are about .150” tall and I think the CHWPS plates are even lower. Newest. How is the SRO? Any issues overhanging the ejection port? I thought the DPP direct mounted with no plate, which is why the DUO/DPO comes with just a rear sight to run with the DPP. |
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Posted: 2/12/2021 9:05:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hox: Already posted in here, but swapped the 507c X2 for the 508T X2. I got lucky and found one in stock https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/301997/20210212_111011_jpg-1821716.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/301997/20210212_111038_jpg-1821717.JPG |
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Posted: 2/12/2021 9:06:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: xCLAYBUSTERx]
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The overhang hasn’t been an issue on any of my STIs.
What I’m saying is the DPPs base is as tall as the RMR and plate. I absolutely hated the adjustments on the DPP.  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/12/2021 9:47:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kuryakyn: The overhang hasn’t been an issue on any of my STIs. What I’m saying is the DPPs base is as tall as the RMR and plate. I absolutely hated the adjustments on the DPP. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14611/DB3A7E81-B1B9-454E-93B9-C5E841011FC4_jpe-1822371.JPG I think cutting guns for the DPP direct with a plate for RMR is the best compromise system for OEM guns. Idk how the Staccato guns are setip, but the SIG guns with the DPP cut and additional RMR holes with a spacer plate (not an adapter plate) seen like the best way to go about this. |
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Posted: 2/12/2021 9:51:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TCBA_Joe: I think cutting guns for the DPP direct with a plate for RMR is the best compromise system for OEM guns. Idk how the Staccato guns are setip, but the SIG guns with the DPP cut and additional RMR holes with a spacer plate (not an adapter plate) seen like the best way to go about this. I agree but the 1911/2011 slides are too narrow for a direct mount RMR unfortunately. |
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Posted: 2/12/2021 10:03:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TCBA_Joe]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kuryakyn: I agree but the 1911/2011 slides are too narrow for a direct mount RMR unfortunately. That's right. Duh *face pain * |
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Posted: 2/12/2021 11:26:26 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Fooboy: Single dot > circle dot Originally Posted By Seven-Shooter: That's pretty cool; best outfitted AREX I've seen. |
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Posted: 2/13/2021 12:32:48 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 762SR25]
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fooboy: Single dot > circle dot Some people like fluff |
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Posted: 2/13/2021 10:32:07 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/14/2021 5:03:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11boomboom]
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Sig M18
DPP Wilson Compact Carry Module X300U-B P80 9V40 (G19) Unknown parts kit Garbage JCS RMR slide Holosun 407C Lone Wolf barrel Agency 417 Compensator TLR-7 placeholder  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/14/2021 8:40:54 PM EDT
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Finally got my Hellcat back from Wright Armory. Had it out for NP3+, and had them mill the slide for the 507k while they were at it so I didn't have to take a Dremel to it.
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Posted: 2/23/2021 11:55:14 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/24/2021 12:36:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 762AR25: Some people like fluff Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 762AR25: Originally Posted By Fooboy: Single dot > circle dot Some people like fluff I guess shooting at objects that don’t move or shoot back in a no stress environment while shooting in the box really doesn’t necessitate the need for more than a dot only. 
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Posted: 2/24/2021 1:18:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 762SR25]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jackal-FnM: I guess shooting at objects that don’t move or shoot back in a no stress environment while shooting in the box really doesn’t necessitate the need for more than a dot only. Regular dot worked fine for me when "people shot back". I was more referencing the shake awake gimmick but a fancy reticle isn't necessary for CQB either. |
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Posted: 2/27/2021 9:28:17 PM EDT
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Thanks for spending more of my money. I have an RMR inbound from the EE for a gun I dont own yet. Will be put onto a G26.
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Posted: 2/27/2021 9:31:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cameronswmp9: Thanks for spending more of my money. I have an RMR inbound from the EE for a gun I dont own yet. Will be put onto a G26. Welcome to the future  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/27/2021 9:38:34 PM EDT
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My first experience with the SRO. All of my time has been spent on the RMR, 507c. This window is massive, and it sits up high. I notice that my head stays much more upright naturally.
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Posted: 2/27/2021 10:10:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryI blame @fooboy for starting this thread with gunporn and everyone for providing the logic behind the red dots. I've been debating it for months, and with going with a new carry gun, no reason not to. |
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Posted: 2/27/2021 10:23:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Fooboy]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cameronswmp9: I blame @fooboy for starting this thread with gunporn and everyone for providing the logic behind the red dots. I've been debating it for months, and with going with a new carry gun, no reason not to. Whats your plan for the g26? What generation and aftermarket or milling? That will be a solid little package capable of fast+accurate shooting |
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Posted: 2/27/2021 10:49:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fooboy: Welcome ... to the futureeee! Whats your plan for the g26? What generation and aftermarket or milling? That will be a solid little package capable of fast+accurate shooting Have a bid on a Gen4 on GB, but if that falls through I'll grab a frame and aftermarket slide already milled. Have looked at the Rock Slides (local to me) as well as Brownells and a few others. Cost would be about the same as I figure it, should be sub $1K in the whole package. I like the idea of a short, quick, accurate package that hides very easily. The RMR negates the short sight radius and then I'm going to be the variable, not small misses in sight alignment |
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Posted: 2/28/2021 11:30:02 PM EDT
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After poopooing red dots for years, even a post on the first page of this thread, been doing digging and research and decided to give RDS a try.
I picked up a new Glock 19.5mos for $550, love GSSF, and waiting on decision about red dot. Thinking the rmr06 or 508t with aftermarket plate for better fitment. |
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Posted: 2/28/2021 11:37:47 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/1/2021 8:21:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: PhilDNice]
[#46]
First and last time using Dynamic Weapon Solutions (DWS). Slide cut came out good, but their customer service is not the best.
I ordered the slice cut and a 407K (not the dot pictured). The dot was in stock when I ordered it. For some reason, a month later, they tell me they were out of the 407K. They offered a trade to an instock 507K. I agreed of there was no additional cost. They responded that they would do the trade. Fast forward another month and a half, I found out that they were out of the 507K. They refunded me. Not sure why it took them so long to figure out they didn't have the dots. Felt like they strung me along for two and a half months to keep me from cancelling the whole order.   
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Posted: 3/3/2021 1:30:30 PM EDT
[#47]
Finally got my slide back from being milled by JagerWerks
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Posted: 3/3/2021 1:36:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cone256: Finally got my slide back from being milled by JagerWerks https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/214520/20210302_165942-1849767.jpg They do good work. How are you liking the finish on the slide? I like JW's nitriding better than Glock's DLC. |
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Posted: 3/3/2021 1:49:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PFran42: They do good work. How are you liking the finish on the slide? I like JW's nitriding better than Glock's DLC. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PFran42: Originally Posted By cone256: Finally got my slide back from being milled by JagerWerks https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/214520/20210302_165942-1849767.jpg They do good work. How are you liking the finish on the slide? I like JW's nitriding better than Glock's DLC. They cerakoted the slide, looks fine to me but I haven't really paid too much attention to it. It's in the safe until I can get out and get a good zero on it |
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Posted: 3/3/2021 7:22:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PFran42: They do good work. How are you liking the finish on the slide? I like JW's nitriding better than Glock's DLC. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PFran42: Originally Posted By cone256: Finally got my slide back from being milled by JagerWerks https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/214520/20210302_165942-1849767.jpg They do good work. How are you liking the finish on the slide? I like JW's nitriding better than Glock's DLC. Well after a few draws the cerakote has already worn off in places. |
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