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Posted: 10/23/2018 7:18:33 PM EDT
Made a video about it HERE

Pretty cool gun.  Look forward to sending some rounds through it.
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 7:32:06 PM EDT
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Doesn't look like any M&P I've seen...  "Clone"...
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 7:47:29 PM EDT
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The sites and take down lever are the only thing that look the same.

For another $150 I'll just buy the real one.
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 7:49:43 PM EDT
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really?

take down-identical

slide stop-identical

firing pin assembly- identical

sear set up- identical

bar-identical

looks like the Turkish clone to me
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 8:32:01 PM EDT
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You will have a nice door stop when something breaks on it.
Link Posted: 10/24/2018 6:47:30 AM EDT
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these are my favorite useless comments^^^

Glock 19 recoil assembly is direct fit.  Apex trigger springs are direct fit for M&P.  The entire trigger bar/sear cage setup might even be a direct swap or easily modified to fit.  The striker should be a direct swap.  Zenith has stated that they will stand behind it for 5 years still even though they sold their complete guns to CDNN.  Not sure why you guys think guns break all the time.  Most of these guns undergo 25000 round testing before failure of any type.  I paid $220 for this gun.  If it breaks beyond repair, I'll just part it out to on ebay or gunbroker and make most if not more than my initial investment.  Good grief.
Link Posted: 10/24/2018 7:44:15 AM EDT
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Life's too short to buy trashcan guns.

Let us know how it actually works before getting defensive and bragging on it too much.
Link Posted: 10/24/2018 8:11:57 AM EDT
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Not bragging at all.  Just LOL at people getting pissy about how I spent my $220. BTW, every Ruger I've owned had to go back for service.  Every Turk gun I've owned ran like a raped ape....YMMV
Link Posted: 10/24/2018 8:14:55 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/24/2018 4:46:21 PM EDT
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Can't see the video. Link to $199 M&P clone?

ETA: Zenith MC28SA?

Visually, it just looks... off. Like the generic handgun silhouette on a "No CCW sign" or in a cartoon.
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Sold out
Link Posted: 10/24/2018 9:18:15 PM EDT
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Not bragging at all.  Just LOL at people getting pissy about how I spent my $220. BTW, every Ruger I've owned had to go back for service.  Every Turk gun I've owned ran like a raped ape....YMMV
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I just love how people who have never even held a certain gun, let alone fired it, have such strong negative opinions about them. I have one of the SAR B6 CZ clones that has given me no problems whatsoever.
Link Posted: 10/24/2018 9:35:54 PM EDT
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How did you get it for $199?
Link Posted: 10/25/2018 6:45:54 AM EDT
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CDNN weekend sale.   Snooze you lose
Link Posted: 10/25/2018 7:06:27 AM EDT
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I just love how people who have never even held a certain gun, let alone fired it, have such strong negative opinions about them. I have one of the SAR B6 CZ clones that has given me no problems whatsoever.
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I just love how people who have never even fired a certain gun have such a strong positive opinion about it.
"haha, all you suckers spending $400-500 on your M&P's and Glocks, I got something just as good for half the price, and if it breaks I can part it out and recover my investment because parts won't be around for long..."
Link Posted: 10/25/2018 5:48:43 PM EDT
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I just love how people who have never even fired a certain gun have such a strong positive opinion about it.
"haha, all you suckers spending $400-500 on your M&P's and Glocks, I got something just as good for half the price, and if it breaks I can part it out and recover my investment because parts won't be around for long..."
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Link Posted: 10/26/2018 8:27:30 AM EDT
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I was poking a little fun at J R's comment...

Have you had a chance to shoot it yet?
Link Posted: 10/26/2018 10:54:11 AM EDT
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Yeah, ran a mag through it in my backyard.   No problem.   Going to an outdoor range Saturday morning to run 200rds through it.
Link Posted: 10/26/2018 1:18:48 PM EDT
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Lol at pissy comments.
I don't believe they watched your video.

I saw these and was curious about them.  Keep posting updates.
Hard to pass on the deal you got.
Link Posted: 10/26/2018 7:17:44 PM EDT
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Lol at pissy comments.
I don't believe they watched your video.

I saw these and was curious about them.  Keep posting updates.
Hard to pass on the deal you got.
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Thank you.  I'll post pics and report after range trip tomorrow
Link Posted: 10/27/2018 8:20:44 AM EDT
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I thought Zenith were importing these a few years ago but there’s no mention of them on their site.

I like Turkish pistols and have had good luck with them. My Canik TP9SA has been flawless. I’ve never shot a SAR I didn’t like and the new SAR 9 is a good design.

$199 is still cheaper than a Sccy pistol, I haven’t watched the video yet but if the OPs Girsan shoots well, he got a deal.
Link Posted: 10/27/2018 9:02:26 AM EDT
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Made a video about it HERE

Pretty cool gun.  Look forward to sending some rounds through it.
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Link Posted: 10/27/2018 12:51:08 PM EDT
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200 flawless today at the range.  The SAR mag in the video did NOT work.  Rapid fire, slow fire, double taps, all good to go.
Link Posted: 10/31/2018 11:27:19 PM EDT
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I grabbed one of these primarily due to the OP's post, and am happy to report that my initial experience has been very positive.
Can't wait to get to the range and see how well the MC28 performs.
I like how it combines the superb take-down M&P lever process with the Glock-style trigger safety, while adding a visual armed striker indicator.
Link Posted: 11/1/2018 6:44:27 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/1/2018 7:03:47 AM EDT
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Looks like it would make a good beater/truck/stash gun.  Cheap enough to toss a few around.
Link Posted: 11/1/2018 9:56:40 AM EDT
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For $200, it might not be bad. I am always a little leery about buying anything that has not been around a while with a good track record, as I have gotten burned before.
Link Posted: 11/1/2018 2:16:34 PM EDT
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SCCY?
Link Posted: 12/7/2018 11:18:32 PM EDT
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Picked one of these up a few weeks ago when they ran another $199 sale.  Seems to be just as well built as any M&P I owned.  Trigger is a bit rough but it's smoothing out.
Link Posted: 12/17/2018 8:33:45 PM EDT
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The Turks tend to build serviceable stuff.

I wish I'd gotten one of the SAR K2's when they were under 300 a few years back...
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 12:50:22 AM EDT
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I wish I'd gotten one of the SAR K2's when they were under 300 a few years back...
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PM sent.
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 7:10:32 PM EDT
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The Turks tend to build serviceable stuff.

I wish I'd gotten one of the SAR K2's when they were under 300 a few years back...
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@DevJames

$329.99

Not under 300, but not a bad price. I liked the one I had aside from the sights.
Link Posted: 12/22/2018 4:21:56 PM EDT
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Just saw that.   I am looking hard at it. I like the CZ 97 but don't feel like coughing up near to $600 plus for it.

I did pick up an EAA B6P Compact from CDNN for $199. It was pink but too good of a deal to pass up.  I duracoated it in Colt Gray

It has been a very nice gun so far.  Lucky to find magazines at CTD for $25 each.  They only come with 1.

Was this  

After this  
Link Posted: 12/22/2018 4:26:39 PM EDT
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those are two different guns.  One is a witness compact and one is a Sarsilmaz.  Huge difference in grip markings and mag base plates.
Link Posted: 12/23/2018 4:54:46 PM EDT
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those are two different guns.  One is a witness compact and one is a Sarsilmaz.  Huge difference in grip markings and mag base plates.
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those are two different guns.  One is a witness compact and one is a Sarsilmaz.  Huge difference in grip markings and mag base plates.
I know.   I just took a stock photo with a pink frame and showed what a pink gun looked like after Duracoat
Link Posted: 12/23/2018 5:19:19 PM EDT
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@DevJames

$329.99

Not under 300, but not a bad price. I liked the one I had aside from the sights.
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The Turks tend to build serviceable stuff.

I wish I'd gotten one of the SAR K2's when they were under 300 a few years back...
@DevJames

$329.99

Not under 300, but not a bad price. I liked the one I had aside from the sights.
@DevJames

SAR K2 for $269.99 from CDNN
Link Posted: 12/23/2018 7:33:56 PM EDT
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That is the K2P 9mm.  The other guy is referring to the K2 45ACP

@bushmaster069
Link Posted: 12/23/2018 8:24:19 PM EDT
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That is the K2P 9mm.  The other guy is referring to the K2 45ACP

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That is the K2P 9mm.  The other guy is referring to the K2 45ACP

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my bad.  i'd like a k2 as well.
Link Posted: 12/24/2018 10:33:45 AM EDT
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Made a video about it HERE

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This actually puts your other bizarre posts into contex.
Link Posted: 12/24/2018 11:58:25 AM EDT
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It will be a great gun to loan out vs a real M&P. See my comment in another thread about Rem 700 30-06 $200 loaner.
Link Posted: 12/25/2018 9:25:11 AM EDT
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@45-Seventy it's called click-bait kiddo
Link Posted: 12/25/2018 10:03:29 AM EDT
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I bought 2 of these from Zenith at slightly higher prices than the OP paid.
These come with 3 mags each from the factory.
$200 is a steal for these.
Link Posted: 12/25/2018 12:26:48 PM EDT
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Ah yes... The old, "all of the crazy I regularly spew is just a weak troll attempt" thing.

I don't know if that's better or worse than uneducated opinions.
Link Posted: 12/25/2018 2:00:27 PM EDT
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Ah yes... The old, "all of the crazy I regularly spew is just a weak troll attempt" thing.

I don't know if that's better or worse than uneducated opinions.
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Didn't think personal attacks were allowed here...huh?
Link Posted: 1/6/2019 11:31:08 AM EDT
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Finally took the Zenith MC-28 Compact to the range.

I started at 21 feet, and was impressed with the accuracy of this pistol right out of the box.
All told, I shot 100 rounds from ever-increasing distances.
The pistol ran great and flung the brass in the same general area which is always appreciated.
Plus, I grouped very well all the way out to the (indoor) range maximum of 50 feet.
As mentioned earlier, the trigger (which started out a bit stiff and gritty) made big strides in feel even though the reset remained very light with almost no audible click.
The takedown lever was very stiff initially, but now works as well as any M&P I've ever had.
The Glock-like magazine loader they included doesn't work very well, but after a few rounds I was able to easily put 10 rounds in with my thumbs .
Interestingly, I usually run Medium to Large backstraps on my pistols that offer such choices, but this one feels best to me with the Small one installed.

That's it, I'm amazed at how good this MC28 Compact both functions, and shoots!
Link Posted: 1/6/2019 12:25:58 PM EDT
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why are you only loading 10 rds?
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Had I thought to bring my MagLula along, I would have loaded to 15 rounds  
Link Posted: 1/7/2019 7:45:48 AM EDT
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I see a lot of people loading mags wrong on YouTube videos all the time.  Try using the next incoming round to push the current top round down and slide it under the feed lips.  When I see guys using their thumb to push down the top round I just cringe.  My mags on the MC28 were easy to load by hand.  Do you have arthritis or hand injuries?
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I see a lot of people loading mags wrong on YouTube videos all the time.  Try using the next incoming round to push the current top round down and slide it under the feed lips.  When I see guys using their thumb to push down the top round I just cringe.  My mags on the MC28 were easy to load by hand.  Do you have arthritis or hand injuries?
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Nope, no issues or injuries........they were just a bit stiff being brand new.
Link Posted: 1/8/2019 2:25:17 PM EDT
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Just saw that.   I am looking hard at it. I like the CZ 97 but don't feel like coughing up near to $600 plus for it.

I did pick up an EAA B6P Compact from CDNN for $199. It was pink but too good of a deal to pass up.  I duracoated it in Colt Gray

It has been a very nice gun so far.  Lucky to find magazines at CTD for $25 each.  They only come with 1.

Was this  https://i.imgur.com/MmOZMMgm.jpg

After this  https://i.imgur.com/CjsGcdWm.jpg
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They are available from SARUSA direct.

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The B6 magazines are $26.95 plus shipping.

Freddy Arteaga
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847.768.1011
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Link Posted: 1/13/2019 9:45:22 AM EDT
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Nevermind
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