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Posted: 5/13/2023 2:46:52 PM EST
What do you all think about this new Taurus Raging Hunter? It is in .460s&w magnum which means it can also shoot .454 casull and .45 colt. That top picatinny rail for optics and bottom picatinny rail for bipod/tripod is a convenient feature for stability shooting longer range. That muzzle break also looks great. I'm hesitant about it though because my last raging hunter in .44magnum was a great shooting gun, but it had the worst revolver trigger I've ever used in my life. I'm including a picture for you all to see. Their video of it being shot also looked like it had really low recoil for .460s&w magnum.
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Posted: 5/13/2023 3:32:13 PM EST
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I'm definitely old enough to not trust a Taurus on a high pressure cartridge. I've been tempted by their offering my whole life because they make some awesome configurations but have passed on every time because of issues I've seen. They had a 500 they teased at SHOT show forever ago but it never came to light and the assumption was that it just couldn't handle the pressure. 50,000 PSI is no joke.
Do they still have a killer warranty? Maybe it's worth the roll of the dice. Heavy guns and muzzle brakes are fun. |
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Posted: 5/13/2023 4:03:14 PM EST
[Last Edit: 50-140]
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I've shot the S&W model 460XVR. One of the issues with that was with the longer 8+" barrel length, people used two hands, with not such pleasant results.
The Taurus looks so front heavy as if it invites using two hands, I'll bet that down the road someone will have a shortened finger when they cover the cylinder gap with a full bore .460 round. |
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Posted: 5/13/2023 4:10:19 PM EST
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Posted: 5/13/2023 4:14:03 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 50-140: I've shot the S&W model 460XVR. One of the issues with that was with the longer 8+" barrel length, people used two hands, with not such pleasant results. The Taurus looks so front heavy as if it invites using two hands, I'll bet that down the road someone will have a shortened finger when they cover the cylinder gap with a full bore .460 round. I'm not sure what you're saying. I can't imagine any kind of a normal hold that puts fingers by the gap so that seems like a training and common sense issue. When I shoot them I use a normal hold. I have seen damage done when people were shooting off a bench or rest and I put a hole in an ammo bag that way. |
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Posted: 5/13/2023 4:16:21 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jaqufrost: I like this version. Kinda want to buy one. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/57761/Screenshot_20230513_161006_Gallery_jpg-2815715.JPG I really like the shorter barrel versions. 5" is really a decent do it all and it saves a bit of weight. |
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Posted: 5/13/2023 5:15:41 PM EST
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That looks like a good length too. The picatinny rail it comes with is still more than what comes with a S&W $1,200 revolver that only has iron sights. The raging hunter line is great, but I have to repeat it, you really want to try the trigger in person before you buy it. If the trigger is good, then I say 100% get it.
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PA, USA
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Posted: 5/13/2023 11:49:34 PM EST
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I always felt that the Taurus Raging hunter revolvers had that stupid tacticool look that I know isnt that great, yet that gamer part of my brain keeps telling me awesome.
But I dont really trust Taurus revolvers, even with .357. |
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Posted: 5/15/2023 10:16:04 PM EST
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First one looks like a grease gun and a douch bag nozzle had a love child.
Ehh I have a S&W 460v and a 500. If Tarass makes them 6 shot they may sell. |
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Posted: 5/16/2023 11:15:14 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jaqufrost: I like this version. Kinda want to buy one. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/57761/Screenshot_20230513_161006_Gallery_jpg-2815715.JPG A friend just had me install a Leupold scope and sight this one in for him. It's in .357 and is pretty accurate but the trigger isn't the greatest in single action.  Had to use extra high rings to clear the front and rear sights. |
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USA
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Posted: 5/18/2023 10:31:57 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KB7DX: A friend just had me install a Leupold scope and sight this one in for him. It's in .357 and is pretty accurate but the trigger isn't the greatest in single action. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/108158/1684249501380-2818586.jpg Had to use extra high rings to clear the front and rear sights. Those gas ports at the muzzle are going to play havoc with the front objective on the scope. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 5/18/2023 1:57:43 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 50-140: I've shot the S&W model 460XVR. One of the issues with that was with the longer 8+" barrel length, people used two hands, with not such pleasant results. The Taurus looks so front heavy as if it invites using two hands, I'll bet that down the road someone will have a shortened finger when they cover the cylinder gap with a full bore .460 round. Are you saying people grip the barrel with their support hand?!?  I agree as said above these guns look ridiculous. But damnit I want the longest barreled ported version in .357 with a red dot 
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Posted: 5/18/2023 2:05:56 PM EST
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I had a Taurus 2.25" raging bull in 454 Casull. That was one seriously fun gun to bust out at the range, especially an indoor one. Decided I wasn't going to be in bear country any time soon so I sold it, but kinda miss it.
As for the gun on the OP, I think it's ugly but if it shoots well I could see a place for it. Ive had 3 Taurus revolvers in the past (a m66 in 357, a m44 in 44 mag, and the 454) and the only issue I ever had was on the 44. The ejector rod backed it's out and seized the cylinder where I couldn't get it open without smacking the hell out of it with my palm, bending the ejector rod. Taurus sent me new parts free of charge within a week. IMO they make some very serviceable revolvers, however their defect rate I would say is higher than average. If you get a good one, it should be a fine piece. If you get a dud, your better off flipping it. |
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Posted: 5/18/2023 2:23:07 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 98Redline: Those gas ports at the muzzle are going to play havoc with the front objective on the scope. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 98Redline: Originally Posted By KB7DX: A friend just had me install a Leupold scope and sight this one in for him. It's in .357 and is pretty accurate but the trigger isn't the greatest in single action. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/108158/1684249501380-2818586.jpg Had to use extra high rings to clear the front and rear sights. Those gas ports at the muzzle are going to play havoc with the front objective on the scope. We put about 50 rounds through it and didn't have any issues. It's a hunting pistol so it won't see a ton of rounds. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 5/19/2023 7:56:24 AM EST
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Like ALASKANFIRE said, 65,000 PSI (maximum mean pressure of the 460 S&W) is nothing to fool around with in a gun of questionable quality..............
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 5/20/2023 1:54:25 PM EST
[Last Edit: GONIF]
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Taurus quality may have improved over the years ,but the S&W 460 is a very demanding high pressure round . IMHO if you can afford it ,get S&W if you want a 460 DA revolver. If Ruger made a currant production revolver chambered in S&W 460 ,that would be something to consider. If you want a SA 460 S&W revolver ,look at the BFR . Most people who have 460 S&W and 500 S&W revolvers shoot them Sigle action most if not all of the time anyway.
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Posted: 6/17/2023 12:38:14 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: I'm definitely old enough to not trust a Taurus on a high pressure cartridge. I've been tempted by their offering my whole life because they make some awesome configurations but have passed on every time because of issues I've seen. They had a 500 they teased at SHOT show forever ago but it never came to light and the assumption was that it just couldn't handle the pressure. 50,000 PSI is no joke. Do they still have a killer warranty? Maybe it's worth the roll of the dice. Heavy guns and muzzle brakes are fun. Taurus 500 never came to light? A friend of mine has had one(Raging Bull) for years. He doesn't shoot much anymore but he still collects, so lifespan of the gun shouldn't be an issue for him. |
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Posted: 6/17/2023 6:49:28 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By shack357: Taurus 500 never came to light? A friend of mine has had one(Raging Bull) for years. He doesn't shoot much anymore but he still collects, so lifespan of the gun shouldn't be an issue for him. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By shack357: Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: I'm definitely old enough to not trust a Taurus on a high pressure cartridge. I've been tempted by their offering my whole life because they make some awesome configurations but have passed on every time because of issues I've seen. They had a 500 they teased at SHOT show forever ago but it never came to light and the assumption was that it just couldn't handle the pressure. 50,000 PSI is no joke. Do they still have a killer warranty? Maybe it's worth the roll of the dice. Heavy guns and muzzle brakes are fun. Taurus 500 never came to light? A friend of mine has had one(Raging Bull) for years. He doesn't shoot much anymore but he still collects, so lifespan of the gun shouldn't be an issue for him. My memory was that it didn't show up for several years after they had it at SHOT. When did he buy his? |
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Posted: 6/17/2023 7:01:39 PM EST
[Last Edit: axl]
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I worked at a large high volume gun store for five years. If you handed me any Taurus handgun for absolutely free I would say thank you and ask how much could I get for it in a trade on something else. Wouldn't even open the box or bother to look at it. I never paid much attention to what went out the door. The store averaged $100k in daily sales. I did notice what came back as inoperable, busted, or bad quality because I had to deal with returning and replacing it. Taurus was the #1 problem area. As mentioned, I wouldn't trust a Taurus in .357 much less .460 S&W Magnum.
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Posted: 6/17/2023 7:04:11 PM EST
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After having a Taurus 357 cylinder jam shut on me, and the piss poor CS I am so done with them.
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Posted: 6/17/2023 7:22:45 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: My memory was that it didn't show up for several years after they had it at SHOT. When did he buy his? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: Originally Posted By shack357: Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: I'm definitely old enough to not trust a Taurus on a high pressure cartridge. I've been tempted by their offering my whole life because they make some awesome configurations but have passed on every time because of issues I've seen. They had a 500 they teased at SHOT show forever ago but it never came to light and the assumption was that it just couldn't handle the pressure. 50,000 PSI is no joke. Do they still have a killer warranty? Maybe it's worth the roll of the dice. Heavy guns and muzzle brakes are fun. Taurus 500 never came to light? A friend of mine has had one(Raging Bull) for years. He doesn't shoot much anymore but he still collects, so lifespan of the gun shouldn't be an issue for him. My memory was that it didn't show up for several years after they had it at SHOT. When did he buy his? I'd guess 10 years ago. The gun was originally owned by a local attention whore, she carried 2 raging bulls and a .44 when IA first got shall-issue CCW signed. A couple years later she had to sell most of her guns to help pay for a funeral, my friend ended up with her .500. |
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Posted: 6/26/2023 9:09:37 PM EST
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The problem is it’s a Taurus
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NC, USA
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Posted: 8/17/2023 8:13:16 AM EST
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I shot an 8" or 10" .460 Smith with simply those 200gr Hornady flex tips... But they run at close to 2,000FPS out of that particular gun... After just one cylinder I said hell no, no more! Please take this from me I screamed... I wouldn't trust a Taurus for almost anything. The only gun they make worth it's weight is their "Clone Version" of the Beretta M92. Which is only because "Brazil I think is where all Taurus' are made" Brazil decided to "Repatriate" all properties owned by the rich. So they got the actual Beretta Factory and tooling I believe and that is quite possible with "Their" version of the M92 is so good...
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Posted: 8/17/2023 8:49:27 AM EST
[Last Edit: 98Redline]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jmreagan: I shot an 8" or 10" .460 Smith with simply those 200gr Hornady flex tips... But they run at close to 2,000FPS out of that particular gun... After just one cylinder I said hell no, no more! Please take this from me I screamed... I wouldn't trust a Taurus for almost anything. The only gun they make worth it's weight is their "Clone Version" of the Beretta M92. Which is only because "Brazil I think is where all Taurus' are made" Brazil decided to "Repatriate" all properties owned by the rich. So they got the actual Beretta Factory and tooling I believe and that is quite possible with "Their" version of the M92 is so good... That is sort of where I come down on Taurus. The 92 series guns are really good. I have owned a PT-92-AF for 30 years. After a bit of break in it runs like a top and is a solid, reliable gun. Their revolvers seem to be hit and miss. Some get good ones that are accurate and the owners love them but there are a significant number of people who get a mediocre or below average version that never live up to the accuracy or are continual QC nightmares. There is no way in hell I would trust a Taurus revolver with full power 460 S&W rounds. As stated above, the 460 is a very stout round with massive pressures. That is not the round to be messing around with an economy minded revolver. Save your pennies and buy a S&W X-Frame or a BFR if you really need to scratch that itch. |
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KY, USA
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Posted: 8/20/2023 2:27:35 PM EST
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Never ever, under any circumstance, spend your money on a Taurus product.
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