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Posted: 4/9/2022 4:48:07 AM EDT
I don't own a .40 cal pistol. I noticed these trade-ins below. Is that a good price, or should I look elsewhere?
https://aimsurplus.com/le-trade-in-dept-marked-smith-wesson-m-p40-40s-w-handgun/ |
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OP has never looked in their industry forum
AIMsurplus is beyond GTG |
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I bought a trade-in M&P .40 from AIM several years ago. A little finish wear, otherwise fine.
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I’ve had a trade in M&P40 for several years.
I swapped the sights for Ameriglos and I replaced the recoil spring. I’ve put around 2K rounds through it and it’s been a solid, reliable pistol. ETA: I paid $279 on clearance sale for mine, so the current AIM price is very good for 2022. |
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I purchased an LE trade in a couple years ago that was never issued, or fired. I believe it was passed over because it had the worst trigger I have ever come across. The night sights are still strong to this day. I paid $350 for it back then. An Apex forward sear trigger fixed it and has an amazing 3.5 pound pull, took a little getting used to as you would double tap it from time to time.
If you can pick one up for under $350 in these times it's a good deal, and mags are cheap and plentiful. |
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Quoted: I purchased an LE trade in a couple years ago that was never issued, or fired. I believe it was passed over because it had the worst trigger I have ever come across. The night sights are still strong to this day. I paid $350 for it back then. An Apex forward sear trigger fixed it and has an amazing 3.5 pound pull, took a little getting used to as you would double tap it from time to time. If you can pick one up for under $350 in these times it's a good deal, and mags are cheap and plentiful. View Quote The 3.5 pound trigger must be nice but I think I'd be apprehensive going that light on a model that doesn't have a thumb safety. Are OEM mags cheap and plentiful? I know ETS makes aftermarket mags for the M&P. Magpul does not, however. |
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Quoted: I’ve had a trade in M&P40 for several years. I swapped the sights for Ameriglos and I replaced the recoil spring. I’ve put around 2K rounds through it and it’s been a solid, reliable pistol. ETA: I paid $279 on clearance sale for mine, so the current AIM price is very good for 2022. View Quote I'm guessing part of the reason the price is good for 2022 is the .40 round losing popularity. |
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Quoted: I'm guessing part of the reason the price is good for 2022 is the .40 round losing popularity. View Quote PDs will buy whatever they can get the best deal on/whoever offers the most value for their trade ins. I knew a local Law Enforcement supplier that did a deal with Tacoma PD for 500 new AR15s, and bought 300+ PD trade in mini14s for $200ea, credited towards the new AR purchase. There was nothing wrong with the Mini14s, they just weren't AR15s. Some of the Minis were unfired , brand new with a brass rack tag screwed to the stock. $14 mags: https://aimsurplus.com/smith-wesson-m-p40-40s-w-357-sig-15rd-magazine/ Buy a factory 9mm barrel and some 9mm mags and shoot 9mm in it. https://gregcotellc.com/cart/smith-wesson-magazines-c-108/actmag-sw-mp9-sw-mp9-20-9mm-17-rd-full-size-mpb917-49176-p-1348.html https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1004410793 The price is right for a decent pistol that you dont care if it gets scuffed by your holster. Its not a $2500 safe queen, its a $350 working gun with honest wear on it, that goes bang every time. Spend the extra money you saved over buying new on a mags/ammo/decent holster. .40 will work just fine if you can put rounds on target. Converting a .40 cal M&P or Glock to 9mm is a non issue. |
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Quoted:...$14 mags: https://aimsurplus.com/smith-wesson-m-p40-40s-w-357-sig-15rd-magazine/... View Quote Will the springs on those surplus mags need to be replaced soon? |
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Quoted: I’ve had a trade in M&P40 for several years. I swapped the sights for Ameriglos and I replaced the recoil spring. I’ve put around 2K rounds through it and it’s been a solid, reliable pistol. ETA: I paid $279 on clearance sale for mine, so the current AIM price is very good for 2022. View Quote Same - purchased a couple & they have been fine shooters. Nice thing about the .40 M&P is you can get a 'conversion' 9mm barrel & with only a swap of that barrel & a 9mm magazine then shoot 9mm too. I've seen people shoot 9mm using a stock 9mm M&P barrel and while it works, the accuracy is not ideal. BIGGER_HAMMER |
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Quoted: Will the springs on those surplus mags need to be replaced soon? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted:...$14 mags: https://aimsurplus.com/smith-wesson-m-p40-40s-w-357-sig-15rd-magazine/... Will the springs on those surplus mags need to be replaced soon? Doubt it - Modern Made Magazines from a reputable company like S&W will last a VERY long time in use. I'd be more concerned about swapping in a fresh recoil spring (inexpensive) than worry about magazine springs. BIGGER_HAMMER |
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Quoted: Will the springs on those surplus mags need to be replaced soon? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted:...$14 mags: https://aimsurplus.com/smith-wesson-m-p40-40s-w-357-sig-15rd-magazine/... Will the springs on those surplus mags need to be replaced soon? Some may very well need it. I have purchased around 20 of the AIM surplus .40 trade in mags. I have found 4 that needed new springs. I bought a pack of 10 Wolff +10% extra power mag doings for $47. At $5 a spring it’s cheap to swap out on mags that show feed issues. No mag I’ve bought that had feed issues continued to have any problems after a spring change. I’ve also purchased 50-to-9 conversion barrels for all my M&P40s. I grabbed Storm Lake barrels when Midway was blowing them out. I also bought a bunch of trade in M&P9 mags when they errr on the market. It’s a good setup. I did change out the baseplates to a different color on my 9mm mags so I can check the barrel hood then verify proper mag is being used. |
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I have a line on M&P40 trade ins for under $200 locally but I’m all 9mm, zero desire to get a .40. When I factor in a conversion barrel at $150+, it doesn’t make much sense unfortunately.
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Quoted: I have a line on M&P40 trade ins for under $200 locally but I’m all 9mm, zero desire to get a .40. When I factor in a conversion barrel at $150+, it doesn’t make much sense unfortunately. View Quote A factory 9mm barrel is drop in, $80 new from midway if you can't find find a used $50 one on the EE |
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Quoted: Same - purchased a couple & they have been fine shooters. Nice thing about the .40 M&P is you can get a 'conversion' 9mm barrel & with only a swap of that barrel & a 9mm magazine then shoot 9mm too. I've seen people shoot 9mm using a stock 9mm M&P barrel and while it works, the accuracy is not ideal. BIGGER_HAMMER View Quote I'm not sure about the M&P but on the glocks if you get,say,a 9mm conversion barrel for your 23 or 22 to turn it into a 19 or 17--you should also get an ejector for 9MM. the .40 ejector is straight but the 9 is curved. also,AIM is a good company but it is luck of the draw for police tradeins.usually,you'll get a really nice piece but sometimes you get a well used one. case in point--my 1st purchase police tradein was a p226 in .40.it was WELL worn and only in fair-good condition. however,the glock 23 i got was pristine and in like new condition. |
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Quoted:...also,AIM is a good company but it is luck of the draw for police tradeins.usually,you'll get a really nice piece but sometimes you get a well used one. case in point--my 1st purchase police tradein was a p226 in .40.it was WELL worn and only in fair-good condition. however,the glock 23 i got was pristine and in like new condition. View Quote Was the p226 worn just cosmetically or both that and internally? |
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Quoted: Was the p226 worn just cosmetically or both that and internally? View Quote PD trade-in pistols normally have a lot of holster wear from being carried daily for a few years. Depending on the specific dept and individual officer it was issued to, it may have only been fired 50-100 rounds once a year for annual quals, or shot 500 rounds weekly because the officer it was issued like shooting the dept's ammo for free. Some cops never shoot, some love to shoot for free, some depts provide free ammo anytime, and some only provide it once a month or year for the minimum range time etc. Ive got a Detroit PD M&P40 that has holster wear and was dirty, but doesn't appear it was shot a lot. Ive got a PD trade-in 2tone Sig 229 9mm that has holster wear but is like new internally, no idea if it was ever shot beyond a test fire. Pretty sure Ive fired it more than it did in it's PD service life. PD trade-ins are working guns, they're used and meant to be used. They range from new, unfired to well used and need a new set of springs |
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Quoted: I'm not sure about the M&P but on the glocks if you get,say,a 9mm conversion barrel for your 23 or 22 to turn it into a 19 or 17--you should also get an ejector for 9MM. the .40 ejector is straight but the 9 is curved. also,AIM is a good company but it is luck of the draw for police tradeins.usually,you'll get a really nice piece but sometimes you get a well used one. case in point--my 1st purchase police tradein was a p226 in .40.it was WELL worn and only in fair-good condition. however,the glock 23 i got was pristine and in like new condition. View Quote Their is no appreciable difference in the M&P ejectors, certainly not enough to effect function. I have a 1.0 and 2.0 M&P40. I picked up Storm Lake conversion barrels for each. I’ve run many hundreds of 9mm rounds through each with zero issues. A M&P40 pistol with the correct 40-to-9 conversion barrel plus sone 9mm magazines (you can’t use 40 mags for 9mm) converts into a reliable 9mm M&P with simply a barrel and mag swap. |
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No way in hell. A brand new 2.0 is $100 more.
$100 more HERE $130 more HERE Used and abused 1.0’s are $225 guns at very best. The whole point of a police trade in is to save a lot of money. At $320 you’re just kinda screwing yourself. |
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Quoted: Their is no appreciable difference in the M&P ejectors, certainly not enough to effect function. I have a 1.0 and 2.0 M&P40. I picked up Storm Lake conversion barrels for each. I’ve run many hundreds of 9mm rounds through each with zero issues. A M&P40 pistol with the correct 40-to-9 conversion barrel plus sone 9mm magazines (you can’t use 40 mags for 9mm) converts into a reliable 9mm M&P with simply a barrel and mag swap. View Quote Unlike Glocks , you don't need a "conversion" barrel to switch from 40 to 9mm, a factory 9mm barrel works. |
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Quoted: Unlike Glocks , you don't need a "conversion" barrel to switch from 40 to 9mm, a factory 9mm barrel works. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Their is no appreciable difference in the M&P ejectors, certainly not enough to effect function. I have a 1.0 and 2.0 M&P40. I picked up Storm Lake conversion barrels for each. I’ve run many hundreds of 9mm rounds through each with zero issues. A M&P40 pistol with the correct 40-to-9 conversion barrel plus sone 9mm magazines (you can’t use 40 mags for 9mm) converts into a reliable 9mm M&P with simply a barrel and mag swap. Unlike Glocks , you don't need a "conversion" barrel to switch from 40 to 9mm, a factory 9mm barrel works. You are right that a regular barrel will function. I’ve found the 40 to 9 conversion barrels are generally higher quality barrels. All of my aftermarket conversion barrels are better shooters than da Tory barrels. How much of this is due to better match on external dimensions, and how much is due to a better barrel I don’t know. I shoot enough that the price difference will quickly become lost in the ammo costs. And my last conversion barrels were Midway clearance so as cheap as a factory barrel |
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Quoted: here's a couple of pics.i traded it off for a M&P spec series NIB + $200 i added about 7 mags and a holster. anodizing was worn on the aluminum frame to shiny bare metal and the barrel was shot a LOT.there were gouges on the outside of the barrel that you could feel with your hands.5-10 thou. i would say. shot good and had the grips for smaller hands like mine. p.s. both guns i got the tritium was dead. https://i.imgur.com/n26vYrO.jpg https://i.imgur.com/4Wpk57I.jpg https://i.imgur.com/cBEeW1z.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted:...also,AIM is a good company but it is luck of the draw for police tradeins.usually,you'll get a really nice piece but sometimes you get a well used one. case in point--my 1st purchase police tradein was a p226 in .40.it was WELL worn and only in fair-good condition. however,the glock 23 i got was pristine and in like new condition. Was the p226 worn just cosmetically or both that and internally? here's a couple of pics.i traded it off for a M&P spec series NIB + $200 i added about 7 mags and a holster. anodizing was worn on the aluminum frame to shiny bare metal and the barrel was shot a LOT.there were gouges on the outside of the barrel that you could feel with your hands.5-10 thou. i would say. shot good and had the grips for smaller hands like mine. p.s. both guns i got the tritium was dead. https://i.imgur.com/n26vYrO.jpg https://i.imgur.com/4Wpk57I.jpg https://i.imgur.com/cBEeW1z.jpg Wow. That's not just holster wear. That pistol was shot a LOT. |
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yup thats why i wasn't really thrilled when i got it.it came (AFAIK) in a padded envelope to the FFL.
so don't expect a box and protected. i don't remember how the glock came but i think the same way.the glock gen 3 23 was mint and $299--wow!!!.so into my hot little hands about tree-fiddy!!! |
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I hate AIM. They drain my wallet with their delectable wares.
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Quoted: Unlike Glocks , you don't need a "conversion" barrel to switch from 40 to 9mm, a factory 9mm barrel works. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Their is no appreciable difference in the M&P ejectors, certainly not enough to effect function. I have a 1.0 and 2.0 M&P40. I picked up Storm Lake conversion barrels for each. I’ve run many hundreds of 9mm rounds through each with zero issues. A M&P40 pistol with the correct 40-to-9 conversion barrel plus sone 9mm magazines (you can’t use 40 mags for 9mm) converts into a reliable 9mm M&P with simply a barrel and mag swap. Unlike Glocks , you don't need a "conversion" barrel to switch from 40 to 9mm, a factory 9mm barrel works. There is a REASON for conversion barrels. The rear slide face is slightly wider on a factory M&P .40 slide Vs. a factory 9mm M&P slide. If you put a factory 9mm barrel intp a .40 slide, the rear of the barrel can slide slightly side to side in the closed slide because it is slightly undersized in the rear width at the back (Vs. .40 S&W barrel). A proper CONVERSION barrel will have 9mm bore, but the rear width of the chamber is wider (.40 S&W width) to as to prevent 'slop & wiggle' which increases accuracy when shooting 9mm. While You CAN shoot 9mm in a .40 S&W M&P with swapping in only a factory 9mm barrel + 9mm magazine, - the ACCURACY will NOT be optimal. If it were TEOTWAWKI - then at close range, maybe it won't matter. But then again ... ... ... BIGGER_HAMMER |
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Quoted: No way in hell. A brand new 2.0 is $100 more. $100 more HERE $130 more HERE Used and abused 1.0’s are $225 guns at very best. The whole point of a police trade in is to save a lot of money. At $320 you’re just kinda screwing yourself. View Quote I'm genuinely surprised that Bud's has such good pricing on M&Ps |
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Quoted: here's a couple of pics.i traded it off for a M&P spec series NIB + $200 i added about 7 mags and a holster. anodizing was worn on the aluminum frame to shiny bare metal and the barrel was shot a LOT.there were gouges on the outside of the barrel that you could feel with your hands.5-10 thou. i would say. shot good and had the grips for smaller hands like mine. p.s. both guns i got the tritium was dead. https://i.imgur.com/n26vYrO.jpg https://i.imgur.com/4Wpk57I.jpg https://i.imgur.com/cBEeW1z.jpg View Quote The frame rails actually look pretty good on that. I’d bet less than 2K rounds through it. Tons of wear otherwise and I’m not sure what’s going on with that barrel, but the parts that count are pretty decent looking. |
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Quoted: I'm genuinely surprised that Bud's has such good pricing on M&Ps View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: No way in hell. A brand new 2.0 is $100 more. $100 more HERE $130 more HERE Used and abused 1.0’s are $225 guns at very best. The whole point of a police trade in is to save a lot of money. At $320 you’re just kinda screwing yourself. I'm genuinely surprised that Bud's has such good pricing on M&Ps The one he posted is a 9mm. The .40 version is more money. |
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Quoted: A factory 9mm barrel is drop in, $80 new from midway if you can't find find a used $50 one on the EE View Quote I have an extra OEM M&P9 barrel but as BigHammer explained, that’s not ideal. And considering the Buds price on a 2.0, it’s not that great of a value if you have to buy a conversion barrel. |
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Quoted: I have an extra OEM M&P9 barrel but as BigHammer explained, that’s not ideal. And considering the Buds price on a 2.0, it’s not that great of a value if you have to buy a conversion barrel. View Quote I dont think OP said he wanted a 9mm barrel, but that's the route these conversations take because most people want to shoot 9mm because its cheaper. On the M&P, the barrel doesn't lock up side to side. Yes the rear "tang" on the .40 barrel is wider than the 9mm version, it prevents you from installing a .40 barrel in a 9mm slide. There may be other reasons it was designed that way, but that's the most obvious one. You can see daylight through the sides of the OEM barrel tang when its in battery with both a .40 in a .40 slide and a 9 in a 9mm slide. The barrel locks up on the front and back of the barrel hood where it engages the slide and breech face. Those dimensions are the same in both 9mm and .40 If your barrel moves/wiggles/wobbles while its fully in battery, then your barrel , or slide, or recoil spring are bad and need to be replaced. There should not be any side to side movement while its in battery. OEM barrels might not be match grade accurate, and if that's why you want a different barrel, by all means do what you want. If you just want the comfort of knowing that the tang on your conversion barrel fills up more of the slot on the breech face, there's nothing wrong with that either. It just isn't necessary to buy a conversion barrel for the M&P40 to be able to shoot 9mm with a 40 slide, nor is it less accurate, nor is it dangerous. |
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