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Posted: 9/16/2023 8:24:39 PM EST
First of all. I always carry cocked and locked. Always.

So why is the half cocked notch even there?

Why do some people carry at half cock?

(I know of one person that does).

Link Posted: 9/16/2023 8:36:37 PM EST
Half is used to remove the thumb safety
Link Posted: 9/16/2023 8:38:50 PM EST
[Last Edit: Mooseless] [#2]
I think it remains as a last-ditch safety, in the event of some part breaking that would otherwise allow the hammer to fall. I know it was the only safety in the original design.

As for carrying it in half-cock, I think that’s more or less fuddlore in action.
Link Posted: 9/16/2023 8:46:42 PM EST
Half-cock is only there to arrest the hammer's fall if it slips off your thumb while you're cocking it.
Link Posted: 9/16/2023 8:49:50 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Mooseless:
I know it was the only safety in the original design.

As for carrying it in half-cock, I think that's more or less fuddlore in action.
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That's how an original TT-30 or TT-33 Tokarev pistol is intended to be carried.

I don't like that, and prefer a thumb safety on any SAO. Also a nice light trigger. Otherwise what's the point?

For any other type of handgun action, I prefer no manual safety whatsoever.
Link Posted: 9/16/2023 10:05:35 PM EST
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My only experience with half cock was series 70 1911's.  On half cock you either charge the slide or cock the hammer fully so it never made sense to me to use it.   Condition one is safer and quicker to bring to bear.
Link Posted: 9/16/2023 10:28:05 PM EST
Half cock is not a carry method. It's a fail safe mechanism.

If the hammer should fall while the trigger is not being activated, the half cock will catch and prevent the hammer from stiking the firing pin.

If the trigger is pressed and not released, while decocking for instance, the hammer will strike or touch the firing pin.

Safety feature, nothing more.
Link Posted: 9/16/2023 11:30:04 PM EST
Half cock is how left handed people, like me, used to carry before ambidextrous safeties were available.

I can't think of a good reason to do it in 2023.

Link Posted: 9/20/2023 7:43:33 PM EST
The act of dropping to half cock is more dangerous by about %10,000 than carrying it as intended.
Link Posted: 9/21/2023 6:28:19 PM EST
The "half cock" notch is actually an interceptor notch to catch the hammer if it's fumbled during cocking.
This has always been an issue with the 1911, because everyone was used to carrying long guns and single actions on half cock as a safety, and they figured the 1911 was the same.

It's totally not safe to carry the original 70's type 1911 on half cock because if it's dropped on the hammer the sear can break and the gun can fire.
Link Posted: 9/21/2023 6:44:46 PM EST
Half cock is the Hammer Drop Safety.
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