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Posted: 5/21/2020 4:11:28 PM EDT
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Quoted: Is gifting a pistol to someone in another state legal? Could I have it shipped to an FFL in the their state? as long as it goes through an ffl to them in their state from an ffl in their state it's legal. |
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Posted: 5/21/2020 6:14:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: as long as it goes through an ffl to them in their state from an ffl in their state it's legal. So I would have to ship it from an FFL to theirs, or I can buy it online and have it shipped to their FFL? Or, can I just go to their FFL and have them transfer it at the time I give it to him? I find it funny i can buy a gun in a state, move to a different one, then be able to do an FTF. But i have to go through hoops fir something like this. |
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Posted: 5/21/2020 6:22:50 PM EDT
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Some people ship “gate hardware” from the UPS store to out-of-state FFL.
No insurance for cheap gate hardware. Call the FFL to be sure he will transfer to your customer. If customer cannot provide reliable contact information for FFL, no gate hinges for him. Or you can declare it, and pay stupid UPS air rates. That gate hinge better be damn special to pay overnight air. And the counter-cow is likely to make you rip open your carefully-packaged parcel to “confirm contents.” |
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Posted: 5/21/2020 6:46:39 PM EDT
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clickd on "grifting pistol in another state" . . . .
off to make eye appt |
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Posted: 5/21/2020 7:48:40 PM EDT
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Can you drive there ?
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Posted: 5/21/2020 8:27:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So I would have to ship it from an FFL to theirs, or I can buy it online and have it shipped to their FFL? Or, can I just go to their FFL and have them transfer it at the time I give it to him? I find it funny i can buy a gun in a state, move to a different one, then be able to do an FTF. But i have to go through hoops fir something like this. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: as long as it goes through an ffl to them in their state from an ffl in their state it's legal. So I would have to ship it from an FFL to theirs, or I can buy it online and have it shipped to their FFL? Or, can I just go to their FFL and have them transfer it at the time I give it to him? I find it funny i can buy a gun in a state, move to a different one, then be able to do an FTF. But i have to go through hoops fir something like this. Yes, you can drive it there. Ship it via ups Pay an ffl to ship it for you to the other ffl. |
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Posted: 5/22/2020 7:54:04 AM EDT
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1. Buy gun
2. Drive to where ever you're going. 3. Give gun as gift. 4. Done. As long as the giftee isn't prohibited it's not a straw purchase. Or give giftee the cash and let him/her buy it themself. 
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Posted: 5/22/2020 1:36:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 1. Buy gun 2. Drive to where ever you're going. 3. Give gun as gift. 4. Done. As long as the giftee isn't prohibited it's not a straw purchase. Or give giftee the cash and let him/her buy it themself. Interstate transfer of a handgun without an FFL involved on the receiving end is illegal period. Not to mention state laws which are not a problem in free America but an entirely different matter in places like NJ MD CA IL MA and some others |
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Posted: 5/22/2020 8:11:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 1. Buy gun 2. Drive to where ever you're going. 3. Give gun as gift. 4. Done. As long as the giftee isn't prohibited it's not a straw purchase. Or give giftee the cash and let him/her buy it themself. This. |
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Posted: 5/22/2020 8:12:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: 1. Buy gun 2. Drive to where ever you're going. 3. Give gun as gift. 4. Done. As long as the giftee isn't prohibited it's not a straw purchase. Or give giftee the cash and let him/her buy it themself. This. That's a felony. |
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Posted: 5/25/2020 1:19:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Interstate transfer of a handgun without an FFL involved on the receiving end is illegal period. Not to mention state laws which are not a problem in free America but an entirely different matter in places like NJ MD CA IL MA and some others It's not a transfer if you're giving it to someone. |
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Posted: 5/25/2020 1:31:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's not a transfer if you're giving it to someone. It is if they're not a resident of your state. Then it's gonna have to go through a FFL in their home state. Thank Lyndon Johnson. |
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Posted: 5/25/2020 11:00:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's not a transfer if you're giving it to someone. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Interstate transfer of a handgun without an FFL involved on the receiving end is illegal period. Not to mention state laws which are not a problem in free America but an entirely different matter in places like NJ MD CA IL MA and some others It's not a transfer if you're giving it to someone. That's literally the definition of transfer. |
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Posted: 5/25/2020 11:47:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Interstate transfer of a handgun without an FFL involved on the receiving end is illegal period. Not to mention state laws which are not a problem in free America but an entirely different matter in places like NJ MD CA IL MA and some others Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: 1. Buy gun 2. Drive to where ever you're going. 3. Give gun as gift. 4. Done. As long as the giftee isn't prohibited it's not a straw purchase. Or give giftee the cash and let him/her buy it themself. Interstate transfer of a handgun without an FFL involved on the receiving end is illegal period. Not to mention state laws which are not a problem in free America but an entirely different matter in places like NJ MD CA IL MA and some others Not just handguns. Rifles, shotguns, etc. Been this way since 1968. |
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Posted: 5/25/2020 7:08:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's not a transfer if you're giving it to someone. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Interstate transfer of a handgun without an FFL involved on the receiving end is illegal period. Not to mention state laws which are not a problem in free America but an entirely different matter in places like NJ MD CA IL MA and some others It's not a transfer if you're giving it to someone. 
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Posted: 5/25/2020 10:41:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Interstate transfer of a handgun without an FFL involved on the receiving end is illegal period. Not to mention state laws which are not a problem in free America but an entirely different matter in places like NJ MD CA IL MA and some others Good to know. So if I go visit my pops in Texas, so drive from Phoenix to Houston, to do some hog/dear hunting, and bring my rifle, all totally legal, and he thinks my rifle is sweet, so I tell him to keep it, that's a felony? Just trying to make this clear for everyone.... |
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Posted: 5/25/2020 11:05:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Good to know. So if I go visit my pops in Texas, so drive from Phoenix to Houston, to do some hog/dear hunting, and bring my rifle, all totally legal, and he thinks my rifle is sweet, so I tell him to keep it, that's a felony? Just trying to make this clear for everyone.... Yup. Unless you go through an FFL. You can thank LBJ. |
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Posted: 5/26/2020 1:41:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Good to know. So if I go visit my pops in Texas, so drive from Phoenix to Houston, to do some hog/dear hunting, and bring my rifle, all totally legal, and he thinks my rifle is sweet, so I tell him to keep it, that's a felony? Just trying to make this clear for everyone.... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Interstate transfer of a handgun without an FFL involved on the receiving end is illegal period. Not to mention state laws which are not a problem in free America but an entirely different matter in places like NJ MD CA IL MA and some others Good to know. So if I go visit my pops in Texas, so drive from Phoenix to Houston, to do some hog/dear hunting, and bring my rifle, all totally legal, and he thinks my rifle is sweet, so I tell him to keep it, that's a felony? Just trying to make this clear for everyone.... 100% a felony. |
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Posted: 5/26/2020 8:09:35 PM EDT
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Unless the pistol in question has a sentiment of some kind, better off buying a gift certificate.
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Posted: 5/30/2020 12:53:49 PM EDT
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Or give giftee the cash and let him/her buy it themself. Much easier & safer for all. |
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Posted: 5/30/2020 2:59:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's not a transfer if you're giving it to someone. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Interstate transfer of a handgun without an FFL involved on the receiving end is illegal period. Not to mention state laws which are not a problem in free America but an entirely different matter in places like NJ MD CA IL MA and some others It's not a transfer if you're giving it to someone. Simply WRONG. You are committing a Federal felony level interstate transfer of possession of a handgun. You can deliver it in person the the FFL in his state. Or pay the ridiculous Common Carrier charges. Their employees are well known to steal the guns in shipment. By forcing the shipper to use 'Next Day' the gun is in their hand for a shorter time and undergoes tighter tracking. Often scanned at every way point through their network both into the building (off the truck) and out of the building (onto another truck). It makes it much easier to track down when something went 'missing.' I used to package handguns in mover size 'book boxes' with lots of wadded up paper. Lot tougher to take a box that large out of a sorting facility without attracting attention. |
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Posted: 5/30/2020 3:06:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not just handguns. Rifles, shotguns, etc. Been this way since 1968. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: 1. Buy gun 2. Drive to where ever you're going. 3. Give gun as gift. 4. Done. As long as the giftee isn't prohibited it's not a straw purchase. Or give giftee the cash and let him/her buy it themself. Interstate transfer of a handgun without an FFL involved on the receiving end is illegal period. Not to mention state laws which are not a problem in free America but an entirely different matter in places like NJ MD CA IL MA and some others Not just handguns. Rifles, shotguns, etc. Been this way since 1968. Not exactly. For long guns he could come visit you, both of you go to an FFL in YOUR state. The FFL can transfer the gun to him as long as all laws of YOUR state AND HIS state are followed. For handguns the FFL must be in the recipient's state. Note that FFLs can also use USPS to move handguns between themselves. Something prohibited to non-FFLs. |
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Posted: 5/30/2020 3:07:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Interstate transfer of a handgun without an FFL involved on the receiving end is illegal period. Not to mention state laws which are not a problem in free America but an entirely different matter in places like NJ MD CA IL MA and some others It's not a transfer if you're giving it to someone. More than one
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