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Link Posted: 1/1/2021 10:10:26 AM EST
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Originally Posted By M4arc:


CD, any pictures of the Baby Glocks over there?
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Not of guys carrying them.  Got some static ones here in the thread already.


CD
Link Posted: 1/1/2021 12:11:57 PM EST
Have any of the 43x or 48 made it over there?
Link Posted: 1/1/2021 12:16:49 PM EST
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Originally Posted By cccollin545:
Have any of the 43x or 48 made it over there?
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I haven't seen any.

CD
Link Posted: 1/4/2021 10:57:10 AM EST
Link Posted: 1/4/2021 1:31:47 PM EST
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That article really doesn't go into how a MIPR or transfer of government property would work. Essentially its just a wordy way of saying that since SOF units are Title X supported by two different entities, those entities have separate and different procurement processes.

So, I can totally believe that USSOCOM found out about DHS or DOD sourced pistols and had them transferred onto their property logs and thence issued. Doubly so if someone wrote a JUON stating that A) we need a compact 9mm pistol B) we found out entity X is sitting on 10000 of them C) can you please source these from entity X?

During the standup of Iraqi security forces, there were all sorts of COTS pistol purchases made, including Smith, Glock, Walther and Sig.

ETA: I never have seen any combined number of how many or what types of COTS pistols were sourced for partner force issue, or how many we retained or resold. I know for example that at least two CA and one PSYOP unit were carrying P99s through multiple pumps in Iraq.
Link Posted: 1/4/2021 1:45:34 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Screechjet1:


That article really doesn't go into how a MIPR or transfer of government property would work. Essentially its just a wordy way of saying that since SOF units are Title X supported by two different entities, those entities have separate and different procurement processes.

So, I can totally believe that USSOCOM found out about DHS or DOD sourced pistols and had them transferred onto their property logs and thence issued. Doubly so if someone wrote a JUON stating that A) we need a compact 9mm pistol B) we found out entity X is sitting on 10000 of them C) can you please source these from entity X?

During the standup of Iraqi security forces, there were all sorts of COTS pistol purchases made, including Smith, Glock, Walther and Sig.

ETA: I never any combined number of how many or what types of COTS pistols were sourced for partner force issue, or how many we retained or resold. I know for example that at least two CA and one PSYOP unit were carrying P99s through multiple pumps in Iraq.
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Don't forget the Ruger P95 from Armor branch procurement.

CD
Link Posted: 1/4/2021 3:14:11 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Screechjet1:
ETA: I never have seen any combined number of how many or what types of COTS pistols were sourced for partner force issue, or how many we retained or resold. I know for example that at least two CA and one PSYOP unit were carrying P99s through multiple pumps in Iraq.
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There were definitely a lot of different pistols out there. I remember back in 2005, one of our young officers that was working with a PRT and SF team in Ninewa was carrying what I believe was a Sig SP2022 (it was a polymer frame Sig, and I think that was the model that was around in 2005). He didn't have a pistol and was participating in engagements with locals, so the team he was working with loaned it to him for the deployment.
Link Posted: 1/5/2021 5:10:32 PM EST
[Last Edit: 1/6/2021 5:32:09 AM EST by Creature]
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Originally Posted By Warlord2:


The HKs weren't that bad from a maintenance prospective.  Most of the issues came from the .40 155gr, it literally beat the guns to death.  Even though both the P2000 and P229 were both tested to 10K rounds without failure with the original parts, nothing can promote the longevity of the pistol more that replacing the recoil spring. Unless I'm forgetting something, the only large scale problem I recall was CBP Air and Marine with a saltwater corrosion issue.  

A small number of the Customs G19s had a barrel drop issue which lead to a distinctive type of failure to feed.  Glock supplied numerous magazine iterations, each with a different magazine follower angle.  These were designated by a dot and then a series of single numbers on the back of the magazine.  This fix was still in progress after the formation of DHS.
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At the risk of thread veering, I've followed this thread and other threads for a while now....and have been wondering why HK pistols seemed to have fallen out of favor in the specwar and other communities. I was unaware of any serious issues with any HK pistols.
Link Posted: 1/20/2021 2:45:09 AM EST
Here are pics from a celebrity/SF charity shoot. You can see one is a Glock 34 with Holosun, others are standard with Delta Point.

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Link Posted: 1/21/2021 10:53:01 PM EST
Does anyone remember CPT. Chang passing out the Glock 18’s at K2?  
  I snagged 2 for my ODA prior to our trip to J-bad!  We had to return them, but they were fun while we had them.
  Does anyone remember learning w only had 5k of 9mm at K2?  Yeah, that was my ODA that bogarted it!

18Z50
Link Posted: 1/30/2021 2:51:23 PM EST
Link Posted: 1/30/2021 8:35:26 PM EST
Link Posted: 1/30/2021 8:54:43 PM EST
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Originally Posted By -KentuckyWindage-:

Fucking hot
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Out of all the things in that photo the glocks are what stand out to me, though the surefire on the 110 is very interesting.
Link Posted: 1/30/2021 11:53:05 PM EST
[Last Edit: 1/30/2021 11:54:23 PM EST by Parabellum226]
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That’s so awesome. Seeing some shots of the older setups is neato. Not sure how to make this show but here’s a shot of Mike Glovers threaded g22 with AAC can https://www.instagram.com/p/CKWkEZBLwMG/?igshid=12abz40qyved3

[instagram] https://www.instagram.com/p/CKWkEZBLwMG/?igshid=12abz40qyved3 [/instagram]

Looks to be the same setup from earlier in the thread with the Dawson night sights and G22AAC code
Link Posted: 1/31/2021 12:01:47 AM EST
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I’m betting that’s a G35 and G22
Link Posted: 1/31/2021 1:18:30 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Wyominer:


I'm betting that's a G35 and G22
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Could be 34s and a 17. No real way of knowing unless we get more info from the guy who took it.
It does make me wonder if the 34/35 slide was thrown onto the frame and if it's mismatched. Definitely got me wanting a six second mount again.
Link Posted: 1/31/2021 2:46:19 AM EST
I got my G19 from the unit training IP’s in Ramadi, they had a frickin pallet of them. I am pretty sure I saw G26s on some 160th pilots and the weirdest sidearm I saw were USAF AWACs crew with HK P7’s. They told me they were issue for the multi national crews manning nato awacs.
Link Posted: 1/31/2021 9:53:29 AM EST
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Link Posted: 1/31/2021 10:53:53 AM EST
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Originally Posted By TCBA_Joe:

Is that an XVL2 on the 6SM? Also looks like it has Crimson Trace grips on it...
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I believe it's an x200 which would make sense w/ it also having the crimson trace.
Link Posted: 1/31/2021 11:07:59 AM EST
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Originally Posted By LsuJon:
Could be 34s and a 17. No real way of knowing unless we get more info from the guy who took it.
It does make me wonder if the 34/35 slide was thrown onto the frame and if it's mismatched. Definitely got me wanting a six second mount again.
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Originally Posted By LsuJon:
Originally Posted By Wyominer:


I'm betting that's a G35 and G22
Could be 34s and a 17. No real way of knowing unless we get more info from the guy who took it.
It does make me wonder if the 34/35 slide was thrown onto the frame and if it's mismatched. Definitely got me wanting a six second mount again.


Reason I’m leaning on the 35,22 is based on what Pressburg has said about 17s with kkm comps not cycling reliably.
Link Posted: 1/31/2021 11:22:13 AM EST
Maybe, but we do know 17s are used.

JSOC:
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Link Posted: 1/31/2021 12:08:43 PM EST
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Originally Posted By LsuJon:
Maybe, but we do know 17s are used.

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https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/316069/B241E989-D5A1-446B-BDC0-D8354BBF9B52_jpe-1804708.JPG
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What brand of grip attachment is that?
Link Posted: 1/31/2021 12:12:14 PM EST
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Originally Posted By LsuJon:
Maybe, but we do know 17s are used.

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Do you know what timeframe JSOC/CAG went from 22/35s to 17s
Link Posted: 1/31/2021 12:15:10 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Boom_Stick:

What brand of grip attachment is that?
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Originally Posted By LsuJon:
Maybe, but we do know 17s are used.

JSOC:
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/316069/B241E989-D5A1-446B-BDC0-D8354BBF9B52_jpe-1804708.JPG

What brand of grip attachment is that?


Chuck Pressburg 3D printed his own, it honestly looks like his
Link Posted: 2/7/2021 7:15:11 PM EST
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Quick everyone start grabbing up the Strike Eagles for their clone builds!
Link Posted: 2/15/2021 11:35:07 PM EST
Neat thread, lots of cool info.

My first exposure to Glock in the .mil was when I was helping some Army dude clean out the bed of truck (Hilux) and saw .40 casings in the bed. I was like "dude you shooting .40?", "yup" was the answer and he had a G22 on his hip. I could take a wild guess who he was working for.

With other Army cats carrying Glock 19's and seeing the breakage on 226's I was sold on Glock during that time frame.

Sold my Sig Sauers and haven't looked back.
Link Posted: 2/16/2021 8:09:04 AM EST
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Originally Posted By gwood188:


Quick everyone start grabbing up the Strike Eagles for their clone builds!
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Originally Posted By gwood188:


Quick everyone start grabbing up the Strike Eagles for their clone builds!


Yeah, that picture's getting saved for the next Strike Eagle bashing thread in GD
Link Posted: 2/16/2021 8:22:35 AM EST
I also see a heavily milled Glock slide in frame. We're assuming that is SF gear?
Link Posted: 2/16/2021 10:34:26 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Eames:
I also see a heavily milled Glock slide in frame. We're assuming that is SF gear?
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Its an SF case, wether that glcok is his personal idk. Seems like a stretch to be allowed a personal firearm even for socom, but idk. Maybe CD could comment on that. He (the guy who is issued the case) did state that upper was built for them and is a .223 wilde so maybe they also acquired the glocks the same way.
Link Posted: 2/16/2021 5:44:06 PM EST
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Originally Posted By LsuJon:
Its an SF case, wether that glcok is his personal idk. Seems like a stretch to be allowed a personal firearm even for socom, but idk. Maybe CD could comment on that. He (the guy who is issued the case) did state that upper was built for them and is a .223 wilde so maybe they also acquired the glocks the same way.
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Not a standard Glock or upper. No clue on the issue

CD
Link Posted: 2/16/2021 10:36:01 PM EST
Originally Posted By Eames:
I also see a heavily milled Glock slide in frame. We're assuming that is SF gear?
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Originally Posted By Combat_Diver:
Not a standard Glock or upper. No clue on the issue
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Note that it also appears to be a Gen 5 frame, modified. Ambi slide release, modified trigger guard, and "gas pedal" cut on the frame (I think that's the term for it).
Link Posted: 2/16/2021 10:38:32 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 3ACR_Scout:


Note that it also appears to be a Gen 5 frame, modified. Ambi slide release, modified trigger guard, and "gas pedal" cut on the frame (I think that's the term for it).
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I've noticed more and more 17.5s in the hands of usasoc
Link Posted: 2/17/2021 10:49:26 PM EST
I bet those Gen 5 Glock 17s in this thread with Deltapoint Pros are actually Glock 17 MOS3 models.. milled by Glock specifically for the DPP..
Link Posted: 2/18/2021 6:37:09 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Ahab:
I bet those Gen 5 Glock 17s in this thread with Deltapoint Pros are actually Glock 17 MOS3 models.. milled by Glock specifically for the DPP..
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What about the missing finger grooves?
Link Posted: 2/18/2021 10:47:43 AM EST
Link Posted: 2/18/2021 11:25:52 AM EST
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Originally Posted By cone256:


What about the missing finger grooves?
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Originally Posted By TCBA_Joe:

Are you saying they're Gen 3? Cause... No.
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He's guessing they are new Gen 5 G17s with the MOS3 factory cut.

Link Posted: 2/18/2021 12:41:38 PM EST
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Link Posted: 2/18/2021 1:06:36 PM EST
Yes this exactly. You can see in a couple pics that they aren’t MOS models I.e. with multiple baseplates. I wondered who did the milling but now reading about the “MOS3” I.e. “deltapoint specific milling” being a Glock product done for a military contract... I think that’s what we’ve been seeing in those pics of Gen 5 G17s with Deltapoints.

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Originally Posted By monkeypunch:



He's guessing they are new Gen 5 G17s with the MOS3 factory cut.

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Link Posted: 2/18/2021 2:09:15 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Ahab:
Yes this exactly. You can see in a couple pics that they aren’t MOS models I.e. with multiple baseplates. I wondered who did the milling but now reading about the “MOS3” I.e. “deltapoint specific milling” being a Glock product done for a military contract... I think that’s what we’ve been seeing in those pics of Gen 5 G17s with Deltapoints.


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When I saw the MOS3, I assumed it was done for a military contract.
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