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Posted: 10/19/2018 9:11:15 PM EDT
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I’m trying to talk myself into one. The 1k price tag for the local guns prevent me from moving forward on one. Still they seem to be nice pistols.
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Posted: 10/19/2018 11:13:49 PM EDT
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I’m trying to talk myself into one. The 1k price tag for the local guns prevent me from moving forward on one. Still they seem to be nice pistols. That being said, they hold their resale value better than any pistol I’ve seen that’s currently in production. Also, I don’t regret paying $1,200.00 for mine (yes I’d rather have paid a lot less) Keep in mind, if you don’t like it after purchasing it, you can get a pretty good price for it used. |
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Posted: 10/19/2018 11:26:42 PM EDT
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My shooting buddy allowed me to put
a few magazines through his, and I was very impressed. But not impressed enough to drop the $$ on one. I'll stick to the 45ACP. |
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Posted: 10/19/2018 11:34:59 PM EDT
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A IOM was the first gun I purchased, with deployment money when I got back to Ft Hood in the spring 2004. I bought it on gunbroker for $785 and had it transferred through Guns Galore in Killeen, the same shop that sold the five-seven to Nidal Hassan. I sold mine about 8 years ago in Hawaii, couldn't get ammo for it at the time. If only I could get one today for the same price.
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Posted: 10/20/2018 2:58:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: FN is definitely charging what the market will bear, they are double what they SHOULDbe. That being said, they hold their resale value better than any pistol I’ve seen that’s currently in production. Also, I don’t regret paying $1,200.00 for mine (yes I’d rather have paid a lot less) Keep in mind, if you don’t like it after purchasing it, you can get a pretty good price for it used. |
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Posted: 10/20/2018 3:39:16 AM EDT
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It's my favorite pistol to shoot, well worth the $ due to how satisfying it is. I've shot milk jugs off hand with mine out to 150 yards - its very accurate at long range.
I actually worked a summer job for $8 an hour to save up for mine to buy the day I turned 21. The recoil is great - feels like a sudden pulse. Paired with the flat trajectory, it's as close to a laser pistol as we have. |
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Posted: 10/20/2018 3:52:02 AM EDT
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I see a ton of them listed on gunbroker by what must be some wholesale seller at the moment, really tempted to pick one up.
Is FN about to roll out a mk3? Why so many for sale? |
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Posted: 10/20/2018 7:09:14 AM EDT
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They are brought into the U.S. in “batches”.
Shortly prices will rise again as they dry up. |
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Posted: 10/20/2018 12:33:53 PM EDT
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They are brought into the U.S. in “batches”. Shortly prices will rise again as they dry up. Quote HistoryQuoted:
They are brought into the U.S. in “batches”. Shortly prices will rise again as they dry up. HK is like that too, batch importing some models. Right now Mark 23s are selling for more than I've ever see because there is only 1 or 2 on GB at any given time. I remember when 20+ were on GB and they were going for lower than I'd ever seen. Quoted:
It's my favorite pistol to shoot, well worth the $ due to how satisfying it is. I've shot milk jugs off hand with mine out to 150 yards - its very accurate at long range. I actually worked a summer job for $8 an hour to save up for mine to buy the day I turned 21. The recoil is great - feels like a sudden pulse. Paired with the flat trajectory, it's as close to a laser pistol as we have. |
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Posted: 10/20/2018 12:49:45 PM EDT
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One of the best guns ever made!
IMO |
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Posted: 10/20/2018 2:04:44 PM EDT
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One of the best guns ever made! IMO In an era where innovation is at a minimum. |
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Posted: 10/20/2018 2:13:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: At the very least, extremely innovative. In an era where innovation is at a minimum. |
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Posted: 10/20/2018 2:40:57 PM EDT
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I'm curious what yardage to zero to. I've seen the posts about the POI difference between SS198 and AE 40gr. I'll be zeroing with the SS198 and am thinking about either 25' or 50'. |
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Posted: 10/20/2018 8:38:45 PM EDT
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Now I'm mad, one just sold for 865.
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Posted: 10/21/2018 10:56:15 AM EDT
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I can’t get a good sight picture with mine. I blacked out the rear and filled in the white front dot with orange paint. I also had to move the rear sight to the far right arrow, which is a significant adjustment. I think the second problem is related to the first somehow. I’m not flinching. Shots we’re center left, but my sight picture is just awful. I’ve seen the aftermarket sight options and I’m not $300 committed to changing them.
Aside from that, I love this gun. |
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Posted: 10/22/2018 1:41:45 AM EDT
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Here is what I'm talking about in regards to the chrome lining not being apparent from the muzzle end:
In every picture I've seen online it is readily apparent like usual with a CL barrel; a darker barrel finish being distinct from the near-white chrome lining. Here it is just a uniform gray. The bore itself is very copper colored from the factory test firing. Compare my pictures to the stock photos here: https://fnamerica.com/products/pistols/fn-five-seven/ |
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Posted: 10/22/2018 8:16:56 PM EDT
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Looks about normal compared to most online photos. When you do the 360 spin thing on that sight, it looks lighter, but not still pics.
Is there an issue with that being the finish? |
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Posted: 10/22/2018 8:20:36 PM EDT
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My 2nd one came in today and it looks way more like the still photos. From breech to muzzle the chrome lining is far more distinct on it. The difference must be due to the exterior finish, sometimes it goes on lighter or something.
I've seen variation in how obvious chrome lining is before in my SIG pistols. FYI the one I just got though from the same distributor is about 4k serials higher. |
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Posted: 10/22/2018 11:00:10 PM EDT
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Comparison of the two:
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Posted: 10/22/2018 11:06:21 PM EDT
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The one I’m wearing right now is like the left one in your picture ^^^^^.
I’ll check another when I get home. |
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Posted: 10/23/2018 1:40:57 AM EDT
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I'm curious what yardage to zero to. I've seen the posts about the POI difference between SS198 and AE 40gr. I'll be zeroing with the SS198 and am thinking about either 25' or 50'. At 100-150 yards I used the first 2 shots to see where the bullets are impacting, and then adjust my aim. I shot a beer bootle at 75 yards - aiming a foot low and to the right of the target. Blasted it on the 3rd shot off hand. |
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Posted: 10/27/2018 6:13:59 PM EDT
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After my first range trip I must say, I can't believe how easy these things shoot.
Sucks that the "plinking ammo" is still .40/rd though. I still can't believe this is a blowback gun, I was surprised. Part of me wishes they built the barrel and case to hold up to 65k psi so that the 40gr bullets could move as fast or faster than the 27s. I bet the recoil would still be a little less than 9mm. |
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Posted: 10/27/2018 6:54:28 PM EDT
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After my first range trip I must say, I can't believe how easy these things shoot. Sucks that the "plinking ammo" is still .40/rd though. I still can't believe this is a blowback gun, I was surprised. Part of me wishes they built the barrel and case to hold up to 65k psi so that the 40gr bullets could move as fast or faster than the 27s. I bet the recoil would still be a little less than 9mm. Also, Elite Ammunition offers loads that are HOT and only to be used in the FiveseveN pistol. |
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Posted: 10/27/2018 7:58:19 PM EDT
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I like them a lot, but can't make myself commit. I keep hoping someone will do a solid, scientific test with some of the newer loadings and put to rest my concerns regarding terminal performance.
I think one with a RMR on top would probably be about the perfect handgun, if I knew it was going to be equivalent to a good 9mm JHP with an available load. |
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Posted: 10/27/2018 8:20:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m pretty sure it’s not blowback, the PS90 IS a blowback and when reloading casings from each one you can tell the difference on casings fired out of the PS90 as the shoulder is blown forward more than on the FiveseveN pistol. Also, Elite Ammunition offers loads that are HOT and only to be used in the FiveseveN pistol. Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m pretty sure it’s not blowback, the PS90 IS a blowback and when reloading casings from each one you can tell the difference on casings fired out of the PS90 as the shoulder is blown forward more than on the FiveseveN pistol. Also, Elite Ammunition offers loads that are HOT and only to be used in the FiveseveN pistol. Quoted:
I like them a lot, but can't make myself commit. I keep hoping someone will do a solid, scientific test with some of the newer loadings and put to rest my concerns regarding terminal performance. I think one with a RMR on top would probably be about the perfect handgun, if I knew it was going to be equivalent to a good 9mm JHP with an available load. |
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Posted: 10/27/2018 9:49:16 PM EDT
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One thing to keep in mind, FN SS197 (Blue Tip) is by everyone’s calculations the next to the lamest factory load available, Federal American Eagle is the absolute worst. Both rounds are loaded by. Fiocchi in Ozark, MO.
FN SS197 is what Nidal Malik Hasan used in the Fort Hood shooting, and it was devastating. FN SS198LF (loaded by FN in Belgium) should do one hell of a better job. Elite S4M or Elite T6B...........MUCH BETTER! |
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Posted: 10/28/2018 12:30:37 AM EDT
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There's a lengthy PDF that an agency put together testing 5.7 rounds that they were asked to include in a handgun ballistic test. They seemed to like it, but the general consensus of many hives on the interwebz, is that they seem to equate the 5.7 with being non lethal...
The same group of people dismissed the above mentioned PDF because they had never heard of the training facility that helped perform the tests... If you want any 5.7 Gel tests, besides the factory stuff, I'm about it. |
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Posted: 10/28/2018 1:16:52 AM EDT
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Lenqz to PDF? FYI, Josh Aston is trying to get a metal mag to feed .22 TCM in a Glock, so he can get the longer OAL of the original .22 TCM.
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Posted: 10/28/2018 1:17:12 AM EDT
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FN seems to sell a good deal of these every year. I wonder why there aren't more easily available things like adjustable night sights (offered by FN even) or some new ammo from FN.
There isn't even really that much info out there on them. I also can't say that I'm very happy with FN's "no 50rd P90 mags for civilians" or SS198LF stance either. |
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Posted: 10/28/2018 10:18:02 AM EDT
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FN seems to sell a good deal of these every year. I wonder why there aren't more easily available things like adjustable night sights (offered by FN even) or some new ammo from FN. There isn't even really that much info out there on them. I also can't say that I'm very happy with FN's "no 50rd P90 mags for civilians" or SS198LF stance either. Point in fact, EVERY YEAR Eliot Engel (D, NY) introduces a bill to outlaw 5.7x28 Ammunition and the FiveseveN pistol. Here is the most recent copy I could locate LINK |
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Posted: 10/28/2018 9:03:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There has been SPECULATION that FN deliberately watered down the ballistics of the 5.7x28 because they were concerned that it would be banned in the U.S. Point in fact, EVERY YEAR Eliot Engel (D, NY) introduces a bill to outlaw 5.7x28 Ammunition and the FiveseveN pistol. Here is the most recent copy I could locate LINK |
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Posted: 10/28/2018 9:09:38 PM EDT
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The FSN is a great handgun. Not small, and has its quirks, but a great shooter and light. Love mine.
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Posted: 10/28/2018 9:56:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What a prick, the precedence a bill like this would set would be catastrophic. Thanks for the post never had heard of that before. |
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Posted: 10/29/2018 4:32:00 PM EDT
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I went a little bit crazy bidding on all of these deals on GB right now after I saw one go for 865. Never got one that cheap sadly but did end up winning a total of three (OOPS).
I'm definitely going to work one into the carry location. I already wore the one I took to the range on my surefire masterfire holster with an XH30 attaching it. It almost didn't feel like I was wearing a gun. |
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Posted: 10/30/2018 3:53:34 AM EDT
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There's a lengthy PDF that an agency put together testing 5.7 rounds that they were asked to include in a handgun ballistic test. They seemed to like it, |
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Posted: 10/30/2018 6:23:54 PM EDT
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I'd like to see it too.
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Posted: 10/31/2018 8:54:05 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/31/2018 9:04:57 PM EDT
[#38]
I bought mine for 700 when they first came out.
I may have shot a mag through it. 
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Posted: 10/31/2018 11:03:55 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/31/2018 11:29:47 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/31/2018 11:37:46 PM EDT
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I bought mine for 700 when they first came out. I may have shot a mag through it. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/58463/fn57-723789.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
I bought mine for 700 when they first came out. I may have shot a mag through it. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/58463/fn57-723789.jpg Loving this. It has confirmed many of the things I've argued for years:
.357 SIG and 10mm offer pretty much nothing over 9mm or .40 Always use the heaviest bullets available in a given caliber, i.e. 147 in 9mm and 230 in .45 Too bad it could have been made by anybody though. |
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Posted: 10/31/2018 11:49:22 PM EDT
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I bought mine for 700 when they first came out. I may have shot a mag through it. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/58463/fn57-723789.jpg |
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Posted: 11/1/2018 12:35:59 AM EDT
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I just read somewhere (5.7 forums) that these older models can go for some pretty good cash over 2k! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I bought mine for 700 when they first came out. I may have shot a mag through it. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/58463/fn57-723789.jpg |
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Posted: 11/1/2018 12:54:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Collectible item or they have something the newer ones don't? |
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Posted: 11/1/2018 1:58:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryFascinating results:
"The Phase 4/5 results were extremely surprising and much extra testing was done as many agencies wanted to be present for comparisons to more traditional rounds. Measurements taken on over 100 shots verified that [5.7]wound channels through tissue with or without barriers equaled or exceeded that of hollow points in all calibers! There was a solid copper round that produced larger average wound dimensions." PG 42 Even more interesting, the tests with gel and real meat showed great performance with the Lehigh XD solid copper 'screwdriver' projectile: 
"The data sheet shows results from Phase 2/3 with enormous wound diameters. The radial flutes work perfectly in fluid/gel. Calculated PWCs are the largest ever recorded in all calibers! Many of our testers wondered if vectoring real compressed tissue sideways into tissue would actually destroy that adjacent tissue that is not directly in the path of the projectile. For those who think this will only work in a non-compressible fluid like gel as we initially did, we can confirm that this technology works extremely well in actual animal tissue with or without barriers. Remember that hollow points expand because tissue which fills the hole in the hollow point is compressed to such a point that the outward pressure inside the bullet pushes and tears the metal and forces it outward where friction then takes over to complete the expansion. If tissue can be compressed to the point of tearing metal (hollow point) then tissue can certainly be compressed to the point of tearing tissue. The Phase 4/5 tissue tests confirmed that in over 100 shots the measured wound channel was not only larger than that of an FMJ but in most cases was the largest wound channel produced in that caliber compared to all other rounds to include fully functioning hollow points." PG3 2 |
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Posted: 11/1/2018 10:15:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Fascinating results: "The Phase 4/5 results were extremely surprising and much extra testing was done as many agencies wanted to be present for comparisons to more traditional rounds. Measurements taken on over 100 shots verified that [5.7]wound channels through tissue with or without barriers equaled or exceeded that of hollow points in all calibers! There was a solid copper round that produced larger average wound dimensions." PG 42 Even more interesting, the tests with gel and real meat showed great performance with the Lehigh XD solid copper 'screwdriver' projectile: https://www.ammoland.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Ammo2.jpg "The data sheet shows results from Phase 2/3 with enormous wound diameters. The radial flutes work perfectly in fluid/gel. Calculated PWCs are the largest ever recorded in all calibers! Many of our testers wondered if vectoring real compressed tissue sideways into tissue would actually destroy that adjacent tissue that is not directly in the path of the projectile. For those who think this will only work in a non-compressible fluid like gel as we initially did, we can confirm that this technology works extremely well in actual animal tissue with or without barriers. Remember that hollow points expand because tissue which fills the hole in the hollow point is compressed to such a point that the outward pressure inside the bullet pushes and tears the metal and forces it outward where friction then takes over to complete the expansion. If tissue can be compressed to the point of tearing metal (hollow point) then tissue can certainly be compressed to the point of tearing tissue. The Phase 4/5 tissue tests confirmed that in over 100 shots the measured wound channel was not only larger than that of an FMJ but in most cases was the largest wound channel produced in that caliber compared to all other rounds to include fully functioning hollow points." PG3 2 |
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Posted: 11/1/2018 3:10:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I believe the reference of the Lehigh XD is probably about a 9mm round since that round is not available in 5.7 |
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Posted: 3/18/2019 8:24:02 PM EDT
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I'm trying to talk myself into one as well..............locally they are 1200 bucks
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Posted: 4/3/2019 2:01:26 PM EDT
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Anyone looking for one Kentucky Gun Co has them in Black and FDE. Email quoted prices were $1187.99 FDE and $1058.33 Black. (I believe both prices are just lower than the FN MIL/LEO pricing I saw).
I snagged a FDE one and FN extended the Free 3 Mags deal until the end of April. |
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Posted: 4/18/2019 7:11:26 PM EDT
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Anyone looking for one Kentucky Gun Co has them in Black and FDE. Email quoted prices were $1187.99 FDE and $1058.33 Black. (I believe both prices are just lower than the FN MIL/LEO pricing I saw). I snagged a FDE one and FN extended the Free 3 Mags deal until the end of April. |
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