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Posted: 12/6/2018 4:04:06 AM EDT
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HST (any weight) is a good choice.
Ranger-T is slightly “better” depending on what you’re looking for. |
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Posted: 12/6/2018 5:53:44 AM EDT
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Good ammo that just got more expensive for the average Joe to get.
That shouldn't dissuade you- just know it may be costly to stack deep. |
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Posted: 12/6/2018 11:37:03 AM EDT
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Local Deputies use it.
I use HST in all the things. .38, .45, 9mm, .40. |
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Posted: 12/6/2018 11:47:10 AM EDT
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I use the 147gr HST in my house pistol...but mostly because it is suppressed. Otherwise 124gr is GTG.
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Posted: 12/6/2018 12:25:58 PM EDT
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Hst, gold dot and ranger t are all top quality hollow points. I would use any of them for home defense.
I don’t like what I have seen from hornady offerings. Critical duty always seems to have an issue penetrating to fbi standards. |
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Posted: 12/6/2018 1:07:18 PM EDT
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HST is a top choice in 9mm.
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Posted: 12/6/2018 2:22:16 PM EDT
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Any round that could cause lethal injuries can cause lethal injuries after going through a wall. You’re splitting hairs at this point, hoping your wife or child isn’t killed by an errant bullet due to 1/4” less expansion isn’t where I’d be spending my efforts.
https://www.theboxotruth.com/the-box-o-truth-1-the-original-box-o-truth/ https://www.theboxotruth.com/the-box-o-truth-14-rifles-shotguns-and-walls/ I keep 124 HST in my G19. |
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Posted: 12/6/2018 5:30:52 PM EDT
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This ammo is new to me and I’m looking for something other than Critcal Defense to run for home defense. Federal HST looks like a great choice for SD ammo from what I’ve read, but what about for HD when I don’t necessarily want better barrier penetration? Thanks for any help! Barrier penetration is especially important in a home. |
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Posted: 12/6/2018 7:44:51 PM EDT
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A home is a barrier rich environment. An assailant can take cover and shoot back at you behind a couch, a wall unit, a corner of a wall, a coffee table, a center island, ect. A shot isn't always going to present itself with the assailant producing his chest right in front of you all the time.
You should never choose a load that's designed not to penetrate these barriers. Usually loads like that have trouble reaching vitals. Birdshot and Glazer Safety Slugs are the worse offenders. |
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Posted: 12/7/2018 3:14:48 AM EDT
[#10]
Great points, everyone...guess I’ll be picking up some 124gr HST while the Federal rebate is going on!
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Posted: 12/9/2018 10:56:30 PM EDT
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My pistol is loaded with 124 HST, it’s hard to beat.
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Posted: 12/9/2018 11:03:57 PM EDT
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Anyone got a good place to snag it at?
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Posted: 12/9/2018 11:17:07 PM EDT
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Local Deputies use it. I use HST in all the things. .38, .45, 9mm, .40. |
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Posted: 12/9/2018 11:39:43 PM EDT
[#14]
124 gr +P HST is our duty load.
It's good stuff. |
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Posted: 12/10/2018 12:25:16 AM EDT
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Sweet! Now to find a decent price on it...hmm.
I see that a Federal is having a $5 back/box rebate with minimum of 2 boxes. Is $1/rd about what I should be looking for after rebate? Also, I’ve got Winchester NATO 124gr for the range. Will the HST 124gr (non +P) stuff be close enough in velocity to the Win NATO for it to be good range ammo for the HST? |
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Posted: 12/10/2018 12:39:12 AM EDT
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I use them in my pistol.
I stick to 5.56 for HD though. |
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Posted: 12/11/2018 3:44:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Sweet! Now to find a decent price on it...hmm. I see that a Federal is having a $5 back/box rebate with minimum of 2 boxes. Is $1/rd about what I should be looking for after rebate? Also, I’ve got Winchester NATO 124gr for the range. Will the HST 124gr (non +P) stuff be close enough in velocity to the Win NATO for it to be good range ammo for the HST? |
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Posted: 12/11/2018 9:31:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: More like less than 50cents. A 50 round box should be under 25$ shipped. |
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Posted: 12/11/2018 10:53:09 AM EDT
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A home is a barrier rich environment. An assailant can take cover and shoot back at you behind a couch, a wall unit, a corner of a wall, a coffee table, a center island, ect. A shot isn't always going to present itself with the assailant producing his chest right in front of you all the time. You should never choose a load that's designed not to penetrate these barriers. Usually loads like that have trouble reaching vitals. Birdshot and Glazer Safety Slugs are the worse offenders. 
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Posted: 12/11/2018 2:23:03 PM EDT
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Not anymore. With MAP being enforced, expect to pay a little under $30 for a 50rd box. |
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Posted: 12/11/2018 2:26:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
A home is a barrier rich environment. An assailant can take cover and shoot back at you behind a couch, a wall unit, a corner of a wall, a coffee table, a center island, ect. A shot isn't always going to present itself with the assailant producing his chest right in front of you all the time. You should never choose a load that's designed not to penetrate these barriers. Usually loads like that have trouble reaching vitals. Birdshot and Glazer Safety Slugs are the worse offenders. |
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Posted: 12/11/2018 7:43:15 PM EDT
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For some reason I thought it was a 20 round box like the Critical Defenses! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Not anymore. With MAP being enforced, expect to pay a little under $30 for a 50rd box. |
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Posted: 12/11/2018 7:50:53 PM EDT
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Good ammo that just got more expensive for the average Joe to get. That shouldn't dissuade you- just know it may be costly to stack deep. |
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Posted: 12/12/2018 12:16:26 AM EDT
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Finally figured out why I was seeing the 20 rd boxes and not the 50’s. The 20 rounders are the “Personal Defense” brand of HST that are part of the $5 rebate/box, and they are $25/box...the “Tactical” is the 50 round box and is around $30/box but is not part of the rebate.
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Posted: 12/12/2018 4:51:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Only if you buy at walmart. The smart people buy the 50 round boxes online. |
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Posted: 12/13/2018 10:49:04 PM EDT
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You're not up on current events I take it? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Only if you buy at walmart. The smart people buy the 50 round boxes online. https://www.sgammo.com/product/federal-ammo-sale/50-round-box-9mm-luger-federal-hst-124-grain-hp-hollow-point-le-ammo-p9hst |
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Posted: 12/26/2018 5:21:18 AM EDT
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I know it is expensive yet I just ordered 150 rounds of HST 124 gr +P from SGAmmo. Its such good ammo.
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Posted: 12/27/2018 11:47:40 PM EDT
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On sale for $22.50 at Bone Frog
https://www.bonefroggunclub.com/collections/ammunition/products/9mm-124gr-federal-premium-tactical-hst-jhp-p9hst1 |
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Posted: 12/28/2018 2:12:26 PM EDT
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On sale for $22.50 at Bone Frog https://www.bonefroggunclub.com/collections/ammunition/products/9mm-124gr-federal-premium-tactical-hst-jhp-p9hst1 |
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