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Posted: 11/14/2022 6:36:48 PM EDT
 Test Gun: Smith & Wesson Shield Plus. Barrel length: 3.1 inches. Ammunition: Federal .30 Super Carry 100gr HST (P30HST1S) Test media: 10% Vyse Ballistics Gel. Distance: 10 feet. Chronograph: Caldwell Ballistic Precision Chronograph G2. Five shot velocity average: 1160fps BB Calibration two shots: 3.6 inches, 580fps and 3.6 inches, 583fps. https://general-cartridge.com/2022/11/14/federal-30-super-carry-100gr-hst-in-vyse-ballistics-gel/ |
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Posted: 11/14/2022 6:48:38 PM EDT
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Interesting, not bad for a new round. I'll start keeping an eye on this.
OP have you purchased a .30 super carry yet? Thoughts on the gun if you have? |
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Posted: 11/15/2022 5:52:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Interesting, not bad for a new round. I'll start keeping an eye on this. OP have you purchased a .30 super carry yet? Thoughts on the gun if you have? He says here that he has purchased a Sheild: https://general-cartridge.com/2022/11/09/30-super-carry/ |
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Posted: 11/15/2022 6:53:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Interesting, not bad for a new round. I'll start keeping an eye on this. OP have you purchased a .30 super carry yet? Thoughts on the gun if you have? Yes, I picked up am M&P Shield. It's the same size as my gen 1 9mm Shield. It shoots a little softer than the 9, but it's subjective. |
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Posted: 11/15/2022 8:01:20 PM EDT
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It did very good. About like a better 9mm load.
I'm not convinced that the slight increase in mag capacity isn't worth it but maybe coupled with the slight decrease in felt recoil it has some promise. |
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Posted: 11/17/2022 1:51:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It did very good. About like a better 9mm load. I'm not convinced that the slight increase in mag capacity isn't worth it but maybe coupled with the slight decrease in felt recoil it has some promise. The mag increase of +3 is pretty impressive; thats generally more then the increase from going to 9mm from .40. Going from 17 to 20rd may not be worth it; but going from a 10rd 9mm subcompact to a 13rd .30sc the same size is compelling. I'm not yet rushing out to buy one, but its promising and will be excited to see what happens. |
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Posted: 11/17/2022 2:08:03 PM EDT
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 Personal Protection: .30 Super Carry Evaluation |
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Posted: 11/17/2022 7:41:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The mag increase of +3 is pretty impressive; thats generally more then the increase from going to 9mm from .40. Going from 17 to 20rd may not be worth it; but going from a 10rd 9mm subcompact to a 13rd .30sc the same size is compelling. I'm not yet rushing out to buy one, but its promising and will be excited to see what happens. In a Glock 17 size mag the round count would be more than three, maybe 5 or 6. So, it could be 22 to 23 rounds. |
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Posted: 11/17/2022 11:49:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In a Glock 17 size mag the round count would be more than three, maybe 5 or 6. So, it could be 22 to 23 rounds. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The mag increase of +3 is pretty impressive; thats generally more then the increase from going to 9mm from .40. Going from 17 to 20rd may not be worth it; but going from a 10rd 9mm subcompact to a 13rd .30sc the same size is compelling. I'm not yet rushing out to buy one, but its promising and will be excited to see what happens. In a Glock 17 size mag the round count would be more than three, maybe 5 or 6. So, it could be 22 to 23 rounds. If you have any more 30SC ammo lying around and a G17 mag, I'd be fascinated to know how many you could stuff in there as an estimate. |
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Posted: 11/18/2022 4:18:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you have any more 30SC ammo lying around and a G17 mag, I'd be fascinated to know how many you could stuff in there as an estimate. I tried to load one up, but the 17 mag would not hold the rounds in. After about 5 rounds, they would shoot out. |
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Posted: 11/18/2022 5:37:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I tried to load one up, but the 17 mag would not hold the rounds in. After about 5 rounds, they would shoot out. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: If you have any more 30SC ammo lying around and a G17 mag, I'd be fascinated to know how many you could stuff in there as an estimate. I tried to load one up, but the 17 mag would not hold the rounds in. After about 5 rounds, they would shoot out. Ah, bummer. Perhaps on a table, a stack of 17x 9mm rounds, and then next to it, make a stack of .30SC rounds until it's the same length? IE something like this? 
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Posted: 11/19/2022 1:31:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ah, bummer. Perhaps on a table, a stack of 17x 9mm rounds, and then next to it, make a stack of .30SC rounds until it's the same length? IE something like this? https://cdn-aclpl.nitrocdn.com/KFZJlZbexsSXNbCnFseeRIzMgbUfmYML/assets/static/optimized/rev-b815025/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/30-Super-Carry-Magazine-Capacity.png We’ll the M&P shield plus goes from 13+1 to 16+1, so I could see getting 4 extra rounds in a full size gun. A G17 with a 21 round capacity flush is pretty significant. |
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Posted: 11/19/2022 12:00:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We’ll the M&P shield plus goes from 13+1 to 16+1, so I could see getting 4 extra rounds in a full size gun. A G17 with a 21 round capacity flush is pretty significant. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Ah, bummer. Perhaps on a table, a stack of 17x 9mm rounds, and then next to it, make a stack of .30SC rounds until it's the same length? IE something like this? https://cdn-aclpl.nitrocdn.com/KFZJlZbexsSXNbCnFseeRIzMgbUfmYML/assets/static/optimized/rev-b815025/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/30-Super-Carry-Magazine-Capacity.png We’ll the M&P shield plus goes from 13+1 to 16+1, so I could see getting 4 extra rounds in a full size gun. A G17 with a 21 round capacity flush is pretty significant. Well thats the big question. Is it basically +3 across the board for mag capacity increase like the Shiled (10rd 9mm becomes 13rd .30; 13rd 9mm becomes 16rd 30) or will capacity further increase by +4-5 as the mag gets towards G17 size, or P10F/P09/XDM (19rd) size? |
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Posted: 11/21/2022 8:06:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well thats the big question. Is it basically +3 across the board for mag capacity increase like the Shiled (10rd 9mm becomes 13rd .30; 13rd 9mm becomes 16rd 30) or will capacity further increase by +4-5 as the mag gets towards G17 size, or P10F/P09/XDM (19rd) size? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Ah, bummer. Perhaps on a table, a stack of 17x 9mm rounds, and then next to it, make a stack of .30SC rounds until it's the same length? IE something like this? https://cdn-aclpl.nitrocdn.com/KFZJlZbexsSXNbCnFseeRIzMgbUfmYML/assets/static/optimized/rev-b815025/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/30-Super-Carry-Magazine-Capacity.png We’ll the M&P shield plus goes from 13+1 to 16+1, so I could see getting 4 extra rounds in a full size gun. A G17 with a 21 round capacity flush is pretty significant. Well thats the big question. Is it basically +3 across the board for mag capacity increase like the Shiled (10rd 9mm becomes 13rd .30; 13rd 9mm becomes 16rd 30) or will capacity further increase by +4-5 as the mag gets towards G17 size, or P10F/P09/XDM (19rd) size? I'd really like to see a subgun chambered for this, I bet in something the size of an MP5/EVO mag you could fit 40 rounds…and Magpul could make a D-80 drum 
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Posted: 11/21/2022 8:10:11 PM EDT
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I realized it I hold me thumb over the top round in the mag, I could stuff the .30 rounds in some 9mm mags and see how much they could hold.
Glock 17- 21 rounds Glock 19- 18 rounds S&W Shield gen 1 8 round- 10 rounds Beretta 17rd- 21 rounds Sig P226 18 round- 22 rounds Sig P320 15 round- 19 rounds Sig P365 10 round- 12 maybe 13 rounds. It was hard to tell if the 13th round would have fit or not. |
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Posted: 11/24/2022 12:21:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I realized it I hold me thumb over the top round in the mag, I could stuff the .30 rounds in some 9mm mags and see how much they could hold. Glock 17- 21 rounds Glock 19- 18 rounds S&W Shield gen 1 8 round- 10 rounds Beretta 17rd- 21 rounds Sig P226 18 round- 22 rounds Sig P320 15 round- 19 rounds Sig P365 10 round- 12 maybe 13 rounds. It was hard to tell if the 13th round would have fit or not. Flush fit 21 round mags is pretty huge. We could possibly get 30 round mags with +6 extension. Considering the ballistics get tests I hope this round is successful. It has potential. |
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Posted: 11/27/2022 10:43:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I realized it I hold me thumb over the top round in the mag, I could stuff the .30 rounds in some 9mm mags and see how much they could hold. Glock 17- 21 rounds Glock 19- 18 rounds S&W Shield gen 1 8 round- 10 rounds Beretta 17rd- 21 rounds Sig P226 18 round- 22 rounds Sig P320 15 round- 19 rounds Sig P365 10 round- 12 maybe 13 rounds. It was hard to tell if the 13th round would have fit or not. This has some potential. |
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